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I don't have Vol. IV of Gayarré in front of me, since I'm still inputting Vol. III, but other standard works on my site confirm that Claiborne was the first Governor of Louisiana Territory:
Mind you, in Gayarré Vol. III, pp619 ff. — not yet up on my site, I'll probably get there within the week though — it is Claiborne who receives the keys from the French Prefect, and it is Claiborne who makes the initial American proclamation. (The reason Vol. III doesn't go into the American governorship is that the Volume covers only, and is subtitled, "The Spanish Domination".)
But, just in case this should not be believable, the Secretary of State of Louisiana goes along for the ride as well; Wilkinson is not even mentioned on that page.
The source of the confusion is that Jefferson appointed Claiborne and Wilkinson as joint Commissioners to accept the province from France. Bill 18:35, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Here are a few additional links from Congressional Archives:
I think it is clear that Claibourne was never governor of the organized Louisiana Territory and that by all apppearances Wilkinson was appointed the first governor (I could find nothing indicating that Jefferson had appointed anyone else in the interim between organization of the territory in March 1805 and the letter of appointment dated December 1805). older ≠ wiser 21:57, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Roswell native ( talk · contribs) has added this category to the article twice now and I've removed it twice. Neither this article nor the Wilkinson County, Georgia article mention that Wilkinson had any significant connection to the county. Simply because a place is named after a person is not a good reason to include the person in the category for that place. That is a misapplication of categories, IMO. older ≠ wiser 12:41, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
According to his great-grandson (of the same name), James Wilkinson was born in Calvert County: the younger JW spent a good deal of time researching his ancestor; the result was published in LHQ I:79‑166, and the statement as to the place of birth appears on p83, at this link. I notice that the Park Service's birthplace, Benedict, is just across the river in fact from Calvert County: I suspect that "Benedict" is shorthand, as very frequently, for "the nearest town was Benedict"; and that JW was very probably born just across the river. I'm not reverting the edit just made — usually all that does is trigger a pig-headed revert war, more ego than concern for accuracy — all the more so that I'm merely offering a theory to explain why two credible sources should say slightly different things; but anyone doing careful research will comb thru this Talk page, and the suggestion may be useful in steering them to the final authority. The print version of the current Encyclopedia Britannica, FWIW, gives Calvert County. Bill ( talk) 13:34, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I saw that - this scrap of text:
Tarnished Warrior: Major-General James Wilkinson by James Ripley ... In this Maryland of early days, James Wilkinson was born in 1757, three miles northeast of the present village of Benedict, on the south side of Hunting ... www.questia.com/library/book/ tarnished-warrior-major-general-james-wilkinson-by-james-ripley-jacobs.jsp - Similar pages
fits with the comment here which leads to this less-informative marker relating to Hunting Creek. So "near Benedict" looks okay (am looking further). Tedickey ( talk) 14:41, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
This article appears to have several sources, but upon checking them out, there is a brief U.S. Army bio, a Maryland roadside historical marker (cited twice), a rotten link, and a reference I added for his wife, Ann Biddle, but that reference is about her older brothers, Owen Biddle, Sr. and Clement Biddle, and only briefly mentions their younger sister. There is a lot of detail in the article, but the sources appear to be weak. Stronger references are needed. -- DThomsen8 ( talk) 15:56, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
This is a head's up. Within the next month there may be some significant changes to this entry. I am requiring students in a college class of mine to edit this entry based on review of major sources on the topic. Most of these editors are new to Wikipedia; I'm a neophyte myself. We aim to follow standard protocol, but we'll doubtless makes some mistakes (by being bold) along the way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LuigiV ( talk • contribs) 21:30, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Another heads up: As we did last year, I'm putting my college students on the job of editing this page. See above. Thanks. 137.143.146.88 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:23, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
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Tedickey has reverted my removal of this erroneous info:
It was also from these environs that Burr recruited his would-be revolutionaries, most notable amongst them a young
Philip Nolan, famously remembered as "
the man without a country" in literature and history.
I don't wish to edit-war, but I do want the article to be accurate.
@ Tedickey: will you please self-revert? Thanks, Yopienso ( talk) 22:49, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
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I don't have Vol. IV of Gayarré in front of me, since I'm still inputting Vol. III, but other standard works on my site confirm that Claiborne was the first Governor of Louisiana Territory:
Mind you, in Gayarré Vol. III, pp619 ff. — not yet up on my site, I'll probably get there within the week though — it is Claiborne who receives the keys from the French Prefect, and it is Claiborne who makes the initial American proclamation. (The reason Vol. III doesn't go into the American governorship is that the Volume covers only, and is subtitled, "The Spanish Domination".)
But, just in case this should not be believable, the Secretary of State of Louisiana goes along for the ride as well; Wilkinson is not even mentioned on that page.
The source of the confusion is that Jefferson appointed Claiborne and Wilkinson as joint Commissioners to accept the province from France. Bill 18:35, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Here are a few additional links from Congressional Archives:
I think it is clear that Claibourne was never governor of the organized Louisiana Territory and that by all apppearances Wilkinson was appointed the first governor (I could find nothing indicating that Jefferson had appointed anyone else in the interim between organization of the territory in March 1805 and the letter of appointment dated December 1805). older ≠ wiser 21:57, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Roswell native ( talk · contribs) has added this category to the article twice now and I've removed it twice. Neither this article nor the Wilkinson County, Georgia article mention that Wilkinson had any significant connection to the county. Simply because a place is named after a person is not a good reason to include the person in the category for that place. That is a misapplication of categories, IMO. older ≠ wiser 12:41, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
According to his great-grandson (of the same name), James Wilkinson was born in Calvert County: the younger JW spent a good deal of time researching his ancestor; the result was published in LHQ I:79‑166, and the statement as to the place of birth appears on p83, at this link. I notice that the Park Service's birthplace, Benedict, is just across the river in fact from Calvert County: I suspect that "Benedict" is shorthand, as very frequently, for "the nearest town was Benedict"; and that JW was very probably born just across the river. I'm not reverting the edit just made — usually all that does is trigger a pig-headed revert war, more ego than concern for accuracy — all the more so that I'm merely offering a theory to explain why two credible sources should say slightly different things; but anyone doing careful research will comb thru this Talk page, and the suggestion may be useful in steering them to the final authority. The print version of the current Encyclopedia Britannica, FWIW, gives Calvert County. Bill ( talk) 13:34, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I saw that - this scrap of text:
Tarnished Warrior: Major-General James Wilkinson by James Ripley ... In this Maryland of early days, James Wilkinson was born in 1757, three miles northeast of the present village of Benedict, on the south side of Hunting ... www.questia.com/library/book/ tarnished-warrior-major-general-james-wilkinson-by-james-ripley-jacobs.jsp - Similar pages
fits with the comment here which leads to this less-informative marker relating to Hunting Creek. So "near Benedict" looks okay (am looking further). Tedickey ( talk) 14:41, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
This article appears to have several sources, but upon checking them out, there is a brief U.S. Army bio, a Maryland roadside historical marker (cited twice), a rotten link, and a reference I added for his wife, Ann Biddle, but that reference is about her older brothers, Owen Biddle, Sr. and Clement Biddle, and only briefly mentions their younger sister. There is a lot of detail in the article, but the sources appear to be weak. Stronger references are needed. -- DThomsen8 ( talk) 15:56, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
This is a head's up. Within the next month there may be some significant changes to this entry. I am requiring students in a college class of mine to edit this entry based on review of major sources on the topic. Most of these editors are new to Wikipedia; I'm a neophyte myself. We aim to follow standard protocol, but we'll doubtless makes some mistakes (by being bold) along the way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LuigiV ( talk • contribs) 21:30, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Another heads up: As we did last year, I'm putting my college students on the job of editing this page. See above. Thanks. 137.143.146.88 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:23, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
User
Tedickey has reverted my removal of this erroneous info:
It was also from these environs that Burr recruited his would-be revolutionaries, most notable amongst them a young
Philip Nolan, famously remembered as "
the man without a country" in literature and history.
I don't wish to edit-war, but I do want the article to be accurate.
@ Tedickey: will you please self-revert? Thanks, Yopienso ( talk) 22:49, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
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