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Quite a lot of the material in the article is contentious and/or implausible as well as being quite unsourced. A.B.C.Hawkes ( talk) 20:38, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
August 16th 2011 - Reliable references to souce material have now been added to the James Palumbo Wikipedia page...
How do we go about having the notice requesting reliable sources removed from the top of the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.244.189.244 ( talk) 14:57, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
It is not clear which novel the remarks refer to, not that it matters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.67.11 ( talk) 15:12, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
James Palumbo has recently been elevated to the House of Lords and given a Life Peerage...subsequently I need to Move or Rename his page with the appropriate new title information on his behalf.
Seeing as I am not a regular Wiki user or editor how would I go about this? My user account is not 'autoconfimred' as I don't make changes to others' Wikipedia pages
Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxitech03 ( talk • contribs) 11:03, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply Doktorbuk, his peerage title was announced in the press a couple of months ago but will be made official this Wednesday (02-10-13) https://www.gov.uk/government/news/working-peerages-announced
Once his title has been conferred how would I go about moving or renaming the article please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.244.189.244 ( talk) 15:45, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much, I will post here once his peerage has been confirmed today. I have a Wikipedia user account but I'm not able to Move/Rename an article as my account hasn't been 'autoconfirmed'. Appreciate your offer of help with this... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.244.189.244 ( talk) 07:14, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for updating the title of James' article so promptly Doktorbuk, but his full official title is "James Palumbo, Baron Palumbo of Southwark" would you mind amending this please so that it is inline with other Lords/Peers (Example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Lane_Fox,_Baroness_Lane-Fox_of_Soho) - many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.244.189.244 ( talk) 11:24, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Understood, but his Father is also 'Lord Palumbo' so having his full peerage title as the article title should help to remove any confusion between the two public figures. If you could please change the title it would be really helpful and much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.244.189.244 ( talk) 07:42, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
It should be noted that 62.244.189.244 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) resolves to MSHK Ltd, one of the Ministry of Sound companies owned by James Palumbo. I have removed a selection of "puff quotes" about his novel which this IP inserted to the article - they read like advertising, and were referenced solely to James Palumbo's own website. The IP has also been editing the MoS page. I have placed a Conflict of Interest warning on the IP's talk page, and shall be keeping an eye on things. DuncanHill ( talk) 13:19, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks DuncanHill, all taken on board. I am an employee of Ministry of Sound Ltd, working in the IT Department for a number of years. I originally removed offensive material added to James Palumbo’s page but subsequently have made several edits from IP Address 62.244.189.244 to ‘improve the article’. With hindsight I was naïve in my understanding of the rules and ethos of Wikipedia. I’ve reviewed the recent edits made by DuncanHill and Drumies to improve the article and bring it in line with Wikipedia’s rules. I would like to apologise for any issues my edits have caused. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.244.189.244 ( talk) 15:19, 13 May 2014
I have placed a "refimprove" template on the article. References to the subject's own website, or the sites of his companies, are unlikely to be sufficiently independent for encyclopaedic purpose. Some of the press pieces referenced are rather promotional in tone. Also, some refs link only to a front page of a website, and not to the actual content relied upon. DuncanHill ( talk) 13:56, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
DuncanHill could you please specify which of the ref links need improving please so new or more reliable references can be found if necessary.
I've also undone most of the changes made my Drimies as large chunks of the article were removed last night which seems unnecessary while steps are being taken to improve this article, as you've suggested. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.116.207 ( talk) 07:37, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
Seeing as all but a fraction of this article has now been removed, leaving only well sourced/referenced statements and material, can you please explain why the notices/infoboxes need to stay on the page? If it's not appropriate for the COI editor to remove them, then who should be responsible for this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.244.189.244 ( talk) 09:30, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
DuncanHill I would like to engage the help of either yourself or other editors to make further edits to James Palumbo’s page, whilst in keeping with the rules and ethos of Wikipedia. These include removing the Randolph Fields line under the Early Career section as this is not easy to reference and adding a line or two about the books he has written and published, including both positive and negative reviews. Can you please advise on the best way to do this as I’m conscious of ensuring that all further edits are done in the correct way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.244.189.244 ( talk) 18:03, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
62.244.189.244 ( talk) 10:35, 16 May 2014 (UTC)Mike
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
I would like to propose adding the following paragraph, which details a book James wrote and published in 2009 called ‘Tomas’
Section Heading: Writing
His debut novel Tomas about corruption in the modern world was published in 2009 receiving both criticism and plaudits. [1] ‘
Is Palumbo’s novel a clever joke?’ Sam Jordison, the Guardian.
‘Absolutely amazing,’ Stephen Fry. [2]
==
I'm not sure if this is exactly how you go about requesting an edit if you are a person with COI, if there is a better way of doing this please let me know.
I would also like to suggest removing the line two lines following 'On leaving Eaton in 1981' which mentions the English Butler Service and Randolph Fields as, although these are factually correct, they're difficult to verify with proper references so it's probably better if they're removed. This will hopefully bring the article more in line with Wikipedia’s guidelines.
62.244.189.244 ( talk) 08:21, 20 May 2014 (UTC)Mike Thanks for making the edit Bilby. Was there a reason you didn't also add the reviews? I've noticed there are many other Wikipedia pages which include reviews and have only asked for two to be added, one positive and one not so positive. Would it be OK to add these?
References
62.244.189.244 ( talk) 09:07, 20 May 2014 (UTC)Mike
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Now that the conflict of interest has been declared steps taken through the proper channels to improve the article, would it be OK to request the removal of the 'COI' and 'BLP Sources' notices at the top of the page?
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. Subject himself already made those changes. |
As part of a continued effort to improve this article, could I request that the line "In 1991 he co-founded the Ministry of Sound, the London nightclub" be removed as it is repeated further down in the Ministry of Sound section.
Also "with school friend Humphrey Waterhouse and DJ Justin Berkmann. The club, modelled on the Paradise Garage in New York had a 24 hour license" under the Ministry of Sound section should be removed as this is not well referenced and a bit unnecessary.
As a further suggestion, could we remove the line "Palumbo stepped down as chief executive of the group in 2008 and was succeeded by Lohan Presencer. Palumbo remains as chairman of the group." from the end of the Ministry of Sound section.
62.244.189.244 ( talk) 16:37, 29 May 2014 (UTC) Mike
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. Subject himself already made those changes. |
As with previous request, would like to suggest removing some of the unnecessary text in the Legal Case section to keep this as simple and to-the-point as possible.
So after the edit the section would read (with all necessary REF's of course):
In 1994 he launched legal proceedings against his father, claiming mismanagement of the family trust. His father resigned as a trustee. In 2010 new proceedings were launched relating to another family trust. In 2012 his father resigned from this trust and paid legal fees.
62.244.189.244 ( talk) 09:45, 16 June 2014 (UTC)Mike
The second novel seems to have disappeared. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.192.110.58 ( talk) 17:52, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. No reason in policy for removal, material is well sourced, and notable. DuncanHill ( talk) 21:56, 30 October 2018 (UTC) |
Removal of section: Family disputes These proceedings were settled on the basis of a confidentiality provision pursuant to which the parties were bound not to disclose any details or the fact of the case. Dionyusu ( talk) 21:14, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved ( non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 05:32, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
James Palumbo, Baron Palumbo of Southwark → James Palumbo – Only article on Wikipedia named James Palumbo Jax 0677 ( talk) 23:32, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
He has rarely attended lately and is now on leave of absence. Any reasons known? 84.167.81.194 ( talk) 13:24, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page. |
This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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The following Wikipedia contributor has declared a personal or professional connection to the subject of this article. Relevant policies and guidelines may include
conflict of interest,
autobiography, and
neutral point of view.
|
Quite a lot of the material in the article is contentious and/or implausible as well as being quite unsourced. A.B.C.Hawkes ( talk) 20:38, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
August 16th 2011 - Reliable references to souce material have now been added to the James Palumbo Wikipedia page...
How do we go about having the notice requesting reliable sources removed from the top of the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.244.189.244 ( talk) 14:57, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
It is not clear which novel the remarks refer to, not that it matters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.67.11 ( talk) 15:12, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
James Palumbo has recently been elevated to the House of Lords and given a Life Peerage...subsequently I need to Move or Rename his page with the appropriate new title information on his behalf.
Seeing as I am not a regular Wiki user or editor how would I go about this? My user account is not 'autoconfimred' as I don't make changes to others' Wikipedia pages
Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxitech03 ( talk • contribs) 11:03, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply Doktorbuk, his peerage title was announced in the press a couple of months ago but will be made official this Wednesday (02-10-13) https://www.gov.uk/government/news/working-peerages-announced
Once his title has been conferred how would I go about moving or renaming the article please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.244.189.244 ( talk) 15:45, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much, I will post here once his peerage has been confirmed today. I have a Wikipedia user account but I'm not able to Move/Rename an article as my account hasn't been 'autoconfirmed'. Appreciate your offer of help with this... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.244.189.244 ( talk) 07:14, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for updating the title of James' article so promptly Doktorbuk, but his full official title is "James Palumbo, Baron Palumbo of Southwark" would you mind amending this please so that it is inline with other Lords/Peers (Example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Lane_Fox,_Baroness_Lane-Fox_of_Soho) - many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.244.189.244 ( talk) 11:24, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Understood, but his Father is also 'Lord Palumbo' so having his full peerage title as the article title should help to remove any confusion between the two public figures. If you could please change the title it would be really helpful and much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.244.189.244 ( talk) 07:42, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
It should be noted that 62.244.189.244 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) resolves to MSHK Ltd, one of the Ministry of Sound companies owned by James Palumbo. I have removed a selection of "puff quotes" about his novel which this IP inserted to the article - they read like advertising, and were referenced solely to James Palumbo's own website. The IP has also been editing the MoS page. I have placed a Conflict of Interest warning on the IP's talk page, and shall be keeping an eye on things. DuncanHill ( talk) 13:19, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks DuncanHill, all taken on board. I am an employee of Ministry of Sound Ltd, working in the IT Department for a number of years. I originally removed offensive material added to James Palumbo’s page but subsequently have made several edits from IP Address 62.244.189.244 to ‘improve the article’. With hindsight I was naïve in my understanding of the rules and ethos of Wikipedia. I’ve reviewed the recent edits made by DuncanHill and Drumies to improve the article and bring it in line with Wikipedia’s rules. I would like to apologise for any issues my edits have caused. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.244.189.244 ( talk) 15:19, 13 May 2014
I have placed a "refimprove" template on the article. References to the subject's own website, or the sites of his companies, are unlikely to be sufficiently independent for encyclopaedic purpose. Some of the press pieces referenced are rather promotional in tone. Also, some refs link only to a front page of a website, and not to the actual content relied upon. DuncanHill ( talk) 13:56, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
DuncanHill could you please specify which of the ref links need improving please so new or more reliable references can be found if necessary.
I've also undone most of the changes made my Drimies as large chunks of the article were removed last night which seems unnecessary while steps are being taken to improve this article, as you've suggested. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.116.207 ( talk) 07:37, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
Seeing as all but a fraction of this article has now been removed, leaving only well sourced/referenced statements and material, can you please explain why the notices/infoboxes need to stay on the page? If it's not appropriate for the COI editor to remove them, then who should be responsible for this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.244.189.244 ( talk) 09:30, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
DuncanHill I would like to engage the help of either yourself or other editors to make further edits to James Palumbo’s page, whilst in keeping with the rules and ethos of Wikipedia. These include removing the Randolph Fields line under the Early Career section as this is not easy to reference and adding a line or two about the books he has written and published, including both positive and negative reviews. Can you please advise on the best way to do this as I’m conscious of ensuring that all further edits are done in the correct way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.244.189.244 ( talk) 18:03, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
62.244.189.244 ( talk) 10:35, 16 May 2014 (UTC)Mike
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
I would like to propose adding the following paragraph, which details a book James wrote and published in 2009 called ‘Tomas’
Section Heading: Writing
His debut novel Tomas about corruption in the modern world was published in 2009 receiving both criticism and plaudits. [1] ‘
Is Palumbo’s novel a clever joke?’ Sam Jordison, the Guardian.
‘Absolutely amazing,’ Stephen Fry. [2]
==
I'm not sure if this is exactly how you go about requesting an edit if you are a person with COI, if there is a better way of doing this please let me know.
I would also like to suggest removing the line two lines following 'On leaving Eaton in 1981' which mentions the English Butler Service and Randolph Fields as, although these are factually correct, they're difficult to verify with proper references so it's probably better if they're removed. This will hopefully bring the article more in line with Wikipedia’s guidelines.
62.244.189.244 ( talk) 08:21, 20 May 2014 (UTC)Mike Thanks for making the edit Bilby. Was there a reason you didn't also add the reviews? I've noticed there are many other Wikipedia pages which include reviews and have only asked for two to be added, one positive and one not so positive. Would it be OK to add these?
References
62.244.189.244 ( talk) 09:07, 20 May 2014 (UTC)Mike
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Now that the conflict of interest has been declared steps taken through the proper channels to improve the article, would it be OK to request the removal of the 'COI' and 'BLP Sources' notices at the top of the page?
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. Subject himself already made those changes. |
As part of a continued effort to improve this article, could I request that the line "In 1991 he co-founded the Ministry of Sound, the London nightclub" be removed as it is repeated further down in the Ministry of Sound section.
Also "with school friend Humphrey Waterhouse and DJ Justin Berkmann. The club, modelled on the Paradise Garage in New York had a 24 hour license" under the Ministry of Sound section should be removed as this is not well referenced and a bit unnecessary.
As a further suggestion, could we remove the line "Palumbo stepped down as chief executive of the group in 2008 and was succeeded by Lohan Presencer. Palumbo remains as chairman of the group." from the end of the Ministry of Sound section.
62.244.189.244 ( talk) 16:37, 29 May 2014 (UTC) Mike
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. Subject himself already made those changes. |
As with previous request, would like to suggest removing some of the unnecessary text in the Legal Case section to keep this as simple and to-the-point as possible.
So after the edit the section would read (with all necessary REF's of course):
In 1994 he launched legal proceedings against his father, claiming mismanagement of the family trust. His father resigned as a trustee. In 2010 new proceedings were launched relating to another family trust. In 2012 his father resigned from this trust and paid legal fees.
62.244.189.244 ( talk) 09:45, 16 June 2014 (UTC)Mike
The second novel seems to have disappeared. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.192.110.58 ( talk) 17:52, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. No reason in policy for removal, material is well sourced, and notable. DuncanHill ( talk) 21:56, 30 October 2018 (UTC) |
Removal of section: Family disputes These proceedings were settled on the basis of a confidentiality provision pursuant to which the parties were bound not to disclose any details or the fact of the case. Dionyusu ( talk) 21:14, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved ( non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 05:32, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
James Palumbo, Baron Palumbo of Southwark → James Palumbo – Only article on Wikipedia named James Palumbo Jax 0677 ( talk) 23:32, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
He has rarely attended lately and is now on leave of absence. Any reasons known? 84.167.81.194 ( talk) 13:24, 19 August 2021 (UTC)