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John Petty Muspratt (1775-1855), a Director of the East India Company from 1824 to 1853, was the only son of another James Muspratt (1743-1778) and Elizabeth Petty who married 27/11/1770. He cannot have been a brother of Evan Muspratt who was this James Muspratt's father. (Source: Muspratt Genealogy, Horace Hutchinson Muspratt, 1906) Henry Gordon Cobb ( talk) 04:19, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
First an apology: I am a newcomer to Wikipedia and took the advice to keep Talk items short too literally. Cobb is not my real name, but I am a direct descendant of James Muspratt and am in touch with the current Muspratt genealogists in both the "Liverpool" and Petty branches of the family. The reference I cited is available from the LDS FamilySearch.org website (an abreviated version of the catalog entry follows). From this website you can download a PDF version of HHM's tree which includes some later additions in an unknown hand: also the Henry Muspratts shown in both the Liverpool and Petty branches are now thought to be unreliable.
Family History Library Catalog page 1 of 1 Title Muspratt genealogy, 1601-1905 compiled by Horace Hutchinson Muspratt Authors Muspratt, Horace Hutchinson (Main Author) The genealogy of the Muspratt family of Winchester, England. Thomas Muspratt (1601-1680) was Mayor of Winchester three times. He was buried in St. Thomas's Churchyard. Includes the years 1601 to 1905. Descendants were in Ireland, America, India, England and elsewhere. Call Number - Location - Status 929.242 M975m - FHL FAM HIST Book - Available Format Books/Monographs (With Film) Language English Publication London : Heraldry Today, 1905 Physical geneal. table : ill., coat of arms. Subject Class 929.242 M975 Film Notes Note - Location [Film] Also on microfilm. Salt Lake City : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1987. on one microfilm reel ; 35 mm. - FHL BRITISH Film [ 1441052 Item 3 ] © 2002 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved.
I have also looked at "Record of services of the Honourable East India Company's civil servants in the Madras presidency, from 1741 to 1858... comp. and ed. from records in the possession of the Secretary of state for India" ( http://www.archive.org/details/recordofservices00prinrich). The only Muspratt who was a Director was John Petty Muspratt and the period of his directorship and year of his death both agree with those in the HHM family tree cited above. I do not know where J Fenwick Allen found the story about Evan's "brother" John: the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica entry for James Muspratt does not repeat it. Given the social mores of the day it seems unlikely that an artisan cork cutter, as Evan reputedly was, would have a brother who was a Director of the East India Company. Henry Gordon Cobb ( talk) 04:18, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
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John Petty Muspratt (1775-1855), a Director of the East India Company from 1824 to 1853, was the only son of another James Muspratt (1743-1778) and Elizabeth Petty who married 27/11/1770. He cannot have been a brother of Evan Muspratt who was this James Muspratt's father. (Source: Muspratt Genealogy, Horace Hutchinson Muspratt, 1906) Henry Gordon Cobb ( talk) 04:19, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
First an apology: I am a newcomer to Wikipedia and took the advice to keep Talk items short too literally. Cobb is not my real name, but I am a direct descendant of James Muspratt and am in touch with the current Muspratt genealogists in both the "Liverpool" and Petty branches of the family. The reference I cited is available from the LDS FamilySearch.org website (an abreviated version of the catalog entry follows). From this website you can download a PDF version of HHM's tree which includes some later additions in an unknown hand: also the Henry Muspratts shown in both the Liverpool and Petty branches are now thought to be unreliable.
Family History Library Catalog page 1 of 1 Title Muspratt genealogy, 1601-1905 compiled by Horace Hutchinson Muspratt Authors Muspratt, Horace Hutchinson (Main Author) The genealogy of the Muspratt family of Winchester, England. Thomas Muspratt (1601-1680) was Mayor of Winchester three times. He was buried in St. Thomas's Churchyard. Includes the years 1601 to 1905. Descendants were in Ireland, America, India, England and elsewhere. Call Number - Location - Status 929.242 M975m - FHL FAM HIST Book - Available Format Books/Monographs (With Film) Language English Publication London : Heraldry Today, 1905 Physical geneal. table : ill., coat of arms. Subject Class 929.242 M975 Film Notes Note - Location [Film] Also on microfilm. Salt Lake City : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1987. on one microfilm reel ; 35 mm. - FHL BRITISH Film [ 1441052 Item 3 ] © 2002 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved.
I have also looked at "Record of services of the Honourable East India Company's civil servants in the Madras presidency, from 1741 to 1858... comp. and ed. from records in the possession of the Secretary of state for India" ( http://www.archive.org/details/recordofservices00prinrich). The only Muspratt who was a Director was John Petty Muspratt and the period of his directorship and year of his death both agree with those in the HHM family tree cited above. I do not know where J Fenwick Allen found the story about Evan's "brother" John: the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica entry for James Muspratt does not repeat it. Given the social mores of the day it seems unlikely that an artisan cork cutter, as Evan reputedly was, would have a brother who was a Director of the East India Company. Henry Gordon Cobb ( talk) 04:18, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
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