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– Although the 19th-century surgeon, historian and philosopher is the only James Hinton whose Wikipedia main title header does not contain a middle initial or a middle name, such a happenstance should not advance him by default to the position of
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. His entry does not appear in any other Wikipedia and there is no indication that, 144 years after his death, history has judged that his name stands above all others named "James Hinton". —
Roman Spinner(talk •
contribs) 18:44, 2 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Support per nom (nice catch, Roman!) - no clear primary topic. Move disambiguation page to basename.
Paintspot Infez (
talk) 20:15, 2 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Support – no primarytopic here.
Dicklyon (
talk) 04:55, 3 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Oppose. If the other two men are not best known as just "James Hinton", then the current setup is fine.
PC78 (
talk) 11:15, 6 July 2019 (UTC)reply
By that standard, the entire concept of
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC becomes distorted and, ultimately meaningless, because the primary entry would no longer be the one that is sought to a greater degree than all the others combined, but the one that uses no middle names and initials when all the other entries do use middle names and/or initials. Using reductio ad absurdum, one could then argue that if the
John Kennedy (disambiguation) page had a single entry for a "John Kennedy", while all the other entries used middle names and/or initials, then the plain "John Kennedy" should be primary because the president was generally known as
John F. Kennedy or
John Fitzgerald Kennedy. —
Roman Spinner(talk •
contribs) 19:50, 8 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Support per points above.
Dicklyon (
talk) 19:57, 8 July 2019 (UTC)reply
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– Although the 19th-century surgeon, historian and philosopher is the only James Hinton whose Wikipedia main title header does not contain a middle initial or a middle name, such a happenstance should not advance him by default to the position of
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. His entry does not appear in any other Wikipedia and there is no indication that, 144 years after his death, history has judged that his name stands above all others named "James Hinton". —
Roman Spinner(talk •
contribs) 18:44, 2 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Support per nom (nice catch, Roman!) - no clear primary topic. Move disambiguation page to basename.
Paintspot Infez (
talk) 20:15, 2 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Support – no primarytopic here.
Dicklyon (
talk) 04:55, 3 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Oppose. If the other two men are not best known as just "James Hinton", then the current setup is fine.
PC78 (
talk) 11:15, 6 July 2019 (UTC)reply
By that standard, the entire concept of
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC becomes distorted and, ultimately meaningless, because the primary entry would no longer be the one that is sought to a greater degree than all the others combined, but the one that uses no middle names and initials when all the other entries do use middle names and/or initials. Using reductio ad absurdum, one could then argue that if the
John Kennedy (disambiguation) page had a single entry for a "John Kennedy", while all the other entries used middle names and/or initials, then the plain "John Kennedy" should be primary because the president was generally known as
John F. Kennedy or
John Fitzgerald Kennedy. —
Roman Spinner(talk •
contribs) 19:50, 8 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Support per points above.
Dicklyon (
talk) 19:57, 8 July 2019 (UTC)reply
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