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Sorry to cut this again, ww, but it likely wasn't SIGSALY. The idea mentioned was just theoretical, and it was the receiver added and then subtracted noise from the channel. In SIGSALY, it's the sender who adds the noise to the message, and then the receiver removes it — very symmetric key. — Matt 23:05, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC)
In the third line, "there" might refer to Britain or Australia.
The section on early career does not tally up with the facts about those organisations.
Therefore Ellis cannot have worked from 1952 to 1965 for GCHQ at Eastcote, and cannot have then relocated in 1965 to Cheltenham to work for CESG. Mauls ( talk) 15:04, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
The link to "GCHQ CESG Research Report No. 3006" https://www.gchq.gov.uk/sites/default/files/document_files/CESG_Research_Report_No_3006_0.pdf yields a 404 error - page not found. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:E0:3F0B:D000:1CDB:EDD:3058:8579 ( talk) 10:46, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
I suspect the time lines and roles of those mentioned are inaccurate. By 1974 this was not the reality at GCHQ. His initial PKI work was in the later 1960s - and was very basic - he had the essence and that was it - this does not align with a number of sources - the RSA claim is likely too much and likely easily disproven.
Not sure of any connection with RSA and Ellis - it is worth exploring - perhaps.
Cock's is credited with PKI - at least by most authorities - Ellis is barely a footnote.
"Shortly after joining GCHQ in September 1973, after studying mathematics at Cambridge University,
Clifford Cocks was told of Ellis' proof and that no one had been able to figure out a way to implement it. He went home, thought about it, and returned with the basic idea for what has become known as the
RSA
asymmetric key encryption algorithm. Because any new (sic) and potentially beneficial/harmful technique developed by GCHQ is by definition
classified information, the discovery was kept secret."
BeingObjective (
talk)
03:42, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
Cleaned this article up - this was a 'legacy' article - made a good faith effort to clean up and add citations that were credible. Still uncertain of some reversion recently made - education as an example, but left as found for a future editor. It reads far better and the citations that are here are robust. BeingObjective ( talk) 03:18, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
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Sorry to cut this again, ww, but it likely wasn't SIGSALY. The idea mentioned was just theoretical, and it was the receiver added and then subtracted noise from the channel. In SIGSALY, it's the sender who adds the noise to the message, and then the receiver removes it — very symmetric key. — Matt 23:05, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC)
In the third line, "there" might refer to Britain or Australia.
The section on early career does not tally up with the facts about those organisations.
Therefore Ellis cannot have worked from 1952 to 1965 for GCHQ at Eastcote, and cannot have then relocated in 1965 to Cheltenham to work for CESG. Mauls ( talk) 15:04, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
The link to "GCHQ CESG Research Report No. 3006" https://www.gchq.gov.uk/sites/default/files/document_files/CESG_Research_Report_No_3006_0.pdf yields a 404 error - page not found. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:E0:3F0B:D000:1CDB:EDD:3058:8579 ( talk) 10:46, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
I suspect the time lines and roles of those mentioned are inaccurate. By 1974 this was not the reality at GCHQ. His initial PKI work was in the later 1960s - and was very basic - he had the essence and that was it - this does not align with a number of sources - the RSA claim is likely too much and likely easily disproven.
Not sure of any connection with RSA and Ellis - it is worth exploring - perhaps.
Cock's is credited with PKI - at least by most authorities - Ellis is barely a footnote.
"Shortly after joining GCHQ in September 1973, after studying mathematics at Cambridge University,
Clifford Cocks was told of Ellis' proof and that no one had been able to figure out a way to implement it. He went home, thought about it, and returned with the basic idea for what has become known as the
RSA
asymmetric key encryption algorithm. Because any new (sic) and potentially beneficial/harmful technique developed by GCHQ is by definition
classified information, the discovery was kept secret."
BeingObjective (
talk)
03:42, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
Cleaned this article up - this was a 'legacy' article - made a good faith effort to clean up and add citations that were credible. Still uncertain of some reversion recently made - education as an example, but left as found for a future editor. It reads far better and the citations that are here are robust. BeingObjective ( talk) 03:18, 18 November 2023 (UTC)