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Is it really appropriate that the chairmanship mentioned in the intro para is that of a mere grouping, 'friends of israel', rather than the constitutionally more weighty and significant Def Cmt? Alci12 13:55, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Ahem. (coming here from User:Rockpocket's talk...) If I understand what is happening here, something was in the article about Arbuthnot's voice, it was objected to on the grounds of not being referenced, and the result was that it was indeed referenced, and then some, with a fair bit of additional colour put in about his colourless voice, (if you'll excuse the turn of phrase) and now we're warring over it? Is that a fair assessment? I suspect a number of people have better things to do than babysit every Arbuthnot article so if we could all find some sort of compromise that worked, that would be grand. If his voice is truly notable enough to be remarked on in several places and it somehow helps the reader understand the subject, and passes BLP, why not leave it? But also, why drone on about his drone (if you'll excuse the turn of phrase, again) at length? A short mention would do I would think? ++ Lar: t/ c 23:21, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
As a neutral outsider with some expertise in UK politics, I've been asked to give an opinion here. It seems that the debate here is over whether this belongs in the article or not. There are two separate sources and two separate points.
“ | It described a scene in the Commons chamber when Nicholas Soames, guffawing at some rejoinder by a government minister, merrily jabbed his neighbouring MP, Arbuthnot, in the ribs. Hoggart put what happened next like this: "Mr Arbuthnot did not respond, but sat with a thin, weak smile, like winter sunshine upon a coffin lid." | ” |
These are just my suggestions. When the protection expires, please don't revert the wording back to how it was (especially not the blatant misquote of Soames). Walton One 15:32, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Ok, Vintagekits has said he will leave off editing this article as a favor to me. (Thank you, VK, it's appreciated). Kittybrewster, I would hope that you would do the same, due to the COI problems. I for one would have no problem if you edit the talk page, and help us correct any factual errors that come in. Hopefully we can find a neutral person who's familiar with the information available about Mr. Arbuthnot, so we can have a good article, that's neutrally presented. I know I'm on weird hours compared to the majority of the editors involved, but if anyone has questions, I will try to help to the best of my ability. SirFozzie ( talk) 03:31, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
James Arbuthnot, the Tory chairman of the Defence Select Committee who makes Eeyore look like a ray of sunshine, was gloomy. “As I listened to you, I found myself agreeing with you but not inspired or enthused. Is there anything you can do to inspire the country so that it actually starts believing with some enthusiasm about why we need to be in Afghanistan?” Gordon Brown tried – Alky Aida got another mention – but now he sounded a bit like a cartoon character going through the motions. He then headed to Pakistan and India. I do hope someone is getting air miles on this and is wearing DVT socks. Kittybrewster ☎ 23:15, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
I doubt the committee has ever heard such a flow of self-satisfied volubility. The chairman James Arbuthnot is a quiet Tory who can do considerable damage by not saying anything. He left an eight-second silence after a general gave an inconclusive answer on the Hercules that went down without life-saving flame-retardant foam. Two or three times he asked Mr Quentin Davies for shorter answers, then started interrupting and finally gave a tutorial (with examples) in not banging on. Labour's Dai Havard came at it from the other end, barking: "I don't want company, I want an answer!" He wasn't going to get one, not from a minister who can't admit we have three armed forces and only enough money to keep two in the top division. Kittybrewster ☎ 23:20, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Dare one mention this in the bio MPs' expenses: Senior Tory James Arbuthnot charged taxpayer for pool cleaning? Giano ( talk) 22:28, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
[4] - Kittybrewster ☎ 13:33, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
28 Apr 2014 : Column 556
Speaker’s Statemuent
4.33 pm
Mr Speaker: Mr James Arbuthnot has written to me in accordance with Standing Order No. 122C, giving notice of his wish to resign from the chairmanship of the Select Committee on Defence. I therefore declare the chair vacant.
I would like, I feel sure on behalf of the House, to make two points in respect of the Chair of the Defence Committee. First, the combination of skill and conscientiousness which the right hon. Gentleman has brought to his task of chairing that Committee—[Hon. Members: “ Hear, hear”]—over a long period has been greatly to the advantage of the House. It is a matter of record that the right hon. Gentleman regards the chairmanship of the Committee as the single most stimulating and rewarding function that he has undertaken in the House in the course of his nigh 27 years in it. We are grateful to him. Secondly—and I say this with some personal feeling—I have always felt that the right hon. Gentleman has treated the House and me with the most exemplary courtesy, which is appreciated by me, and his general approach is hugely appreciated by the House. [Hon. Members: “ Hear, hear.”]
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Is it really appropriate that the chairmanship mentioned in the intro para is that of a mere grouping, 'friends of israel', rather than the constitutionally more weighty and significant Def Cmt? Alci12 13:55, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Ahem. (coming here from User:Rockpocket's talk...) If I understand what is happening here, something was in the article about Arbuthnot's voice, it was objected to on the grounds of not being referenced, and the result was that it was indeed referenced, and then some, with a fair bit of additional colour put in about his colourless voice, (if you'll excuse the turn of phrase) and now we're warring over it? Is that a fair assessment? I suspect a number of people have better things to do than babysit every Arbuthnot article so if we could all find some sort of compromise that worked, that would be grand. If his voice is truly notable enough to be remarked on in several places and it somehow helps the reader understand the subject, and passes BLP, why not leave it? But also, why drone on about his drone (if you'll excuse the turn of phrase, again) at length? A short mention would do I would think? ++ Lar: t/ c 23:21, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
As a neutral outsider with some expertise in UK politics, I've been asked to give an opinion here. It seems that the debate here is over whether this belongs in the article or not. There are two separate sources and two separate points.
“ | It described a scene in the Commons chamber when Nicholas Soames, guffawing at some rejoinder by a government minister, merrily jabbed his neighbouring MP, Arbuthnot, in the ribs. Hoggart put what happened next like this: "Mr Arbuthnot did not respond, but sat with a thin, weak smile, like winter sunshine upon a coffin lid." | ” |
These are just my suggestions. When the protection expires, please don't revert the wording back to how it was (especially not the blatant misquote of Soames). Walton One 15:32, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Ok, Vintagekits has said he will leave off editing this article as a favor to me. (Thank you, VK, it's appreciated). Kittybrewster, I would hope that you would do the same, due to the COI problems. I for one would have no problem if you edit the talk page, and help us correct any factual errors that come in. Hopefully we can find a neutral person who's familiar with the information available about Mr. Arbuthnot, so we can have a good article, that's neutrally presented. I know I'm on weird hours compared to the majority of the editors involved, but if anyone has questions, I will try to help to the best of my ability. SirFozzie ( talk) 03:31, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
James Arbuthnot, the Tory chairman of the Defence Select Committee who makes Eeyore look like a ray of sunshine, was gloomy. “As I listened to you, I found myself agreeing with you but not inspired or enthused. Is there anything you can do to inspire the country so that it actually starts believing with some enthusiasm about why we need to be in Afghanistan?” Gordon Brown tried – Alky Aida got another mention – but now he sounded a bit like a cartoon character going through the motions. He then headed to Pakistan and India. I do hope someone is getting air miles on this and is wearing DVT socks. Kittybrewster ☎ 23:15, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
I doubt the committee has ever heard such a flow of self-satisfied volubility. The chairman James Arbuthnot is a quiet Tory who can do considerable damage by not saying anything. He left an eight-second silence after a general gave an inconclusive answer on the Hercules that went down without life-saving flame-retardant foam. Two or three times he asked Mr Quentin Davies for shorter answers, then started interrupting and finally gave a tutorial (with examples) in not banging on. Labour's Dai Havard came at it from the other end, barking: "I don't want company, I want an answer!" He wasn't going to get one, not from a minister who can't admit we have three armed forces and only enough money to keep two in the top division. Kittybrewster ☎ 23:20, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Dare one mention this in the bio MPs' expenses: Senior Tory James Arbuthnot charged taxpayer for pool cleaning? Giano ( talk) 22:28, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
[4] - Kittybrewster ☎ 13:33, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
28 Apr 2014 : Column 556
Speaker’s Statemuent
4.33 pm
Mr Speaker: Mr James Arbuthnot has written to me in accordance with Standing Order No. 122C, giving notice of his wish to resign from the chairmanship of the Select Committee on Defence. I therefore declare the chair vacant.
I would like, I feel sure on behalf of the House, to make two points in respect of the Chair of the Defence Committee. First, the combination of skill and conscientiousness which the right hon. Gentleman has brought to his task of chairing that Committee—[Hon. Members: “ Hear, hear”]—over a long period has been greatly to the advantage of the House. It is a matter of record that the right hon. Gentleman regards the chairmanship of the Committee as the single most stimulating and rewarding function that he has undertaken in the House in the course of his nigh 27 years in it. We are grateful to him. Secondly—and I say this with some personal feeling—I have always felt that the right hon. Gentleman has treated the House and me with the most exemplary courtesy, which is appreciated by me, and his general approach is hugely appreciated by the House. [Hon. Members: “ Hear, hear.”]
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