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The entire section was deleted without explanation, so I restored it. I checked the discussion page, and there was no note of explanation. However, in looking back over the history, it seems that a concern has come up about the section duplicating a previous section. If the removal was intentional, and if this was the reason, by all means, reinstate your edit -- with explanation so it does not appear to be vandalism, as this page was recently vandalized in a similar manner. Djneufville ( talk) 23:55, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
The following material was added by an IP editor (IP 172.188.176.124) under Usage and other terms by someone who apparently did not read the whole article. Much of it is already in the section on Jamaica. The Jamaican section could do with a good rewrite. Removed materail:
This article still remains disjointed with the information not particularly well connected. I hope that someone will continue to work on this article with a couple of the history books at their elbow. -- Bejnar 02:14, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
I have to call into question the page that much of this article relies upon: The Jamaican Ministry of Education, Youth & Culture's "National Heroes" website. This source seems to cite no reliable secondary sources, and it is written like a legend rather than scholarship or history: "Nanny prayed night and day. She asked for guidance and strength. Nanny soon had a vision. She was told never to give up the fight for freedom." None of this is cited. It tells a good story, but it simply makes up parts of it. We need facts that are verifiable. I propose that someone should revise this article so that it removes much of the myth and leaves the truth. Folk tales are important, but this is an encyclopedia. We need facts. The history of the Maroons is too important to leave to the children's story hour. There are plenty of scholarly secondary sources for us to use to help us write a verifiable, NPOV, sourced article, but we should be skeptical of sources that sound like they were written to entertain kids. Incidentally, I don't question the Ministry of Education's motives in telling the tale this way. It just isn't all true. Josh a brewer ( talk) 04:33, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Edith Blake wrote an article about the Maroons for The North American Review that was published in 1898. Its in the public domain and may be read or downloaded here:
http://archive.org/details/jstor-25119093
Though written in the "academic style" (more the magazine's claim and probably should be described as popular) of its day it does have some information regarding the Maroons.
Please note that with any text over a hundred years old you are dealing with a historical document with the views, opinions and prejudices of that period.
There are much better books and sources available but this is a 15 minute "free" read and may offer an introduction (albeit a very old one) to anyone new to the subject.
Sluffs ( talk) 12:40, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
I'm currently giving this page an overhaul based on information in Michael Craton's Testing the Chains, which should take a couple of days.
As part of this, I recommend deleting the section on Akan day names at the bottom of this page. It's true that these need a note as they can cause confusion, but I would prefer to flag that inline and link to the page on Akan day names rather than reproduce the information.
I also recommend summarizing the section on Jamaican Maroons in Sierra Leone quite a bit and transferring much of the information here to appropriate main pages for the Second Maroon War and/or Sierra Leone Maroons.
Does anyone have any comments or shall I go ahead? Pen Lewins ( talk) 15:17, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
I made the changes. Pen Lewins ( talk) 14:25, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
I have also made a few improvements to this article, from a historical point of view. By the way, before 1707, Jamaica was an English colony, and after 1707 it was a British colony. Mikesiva ( talk) 11:45, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
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"Maroon" by itself isn't capitalized; it's a condition, not an identity. It is capitalized in Leeward Maroons, Jamaican Maroons (specific groups). deisenbe ( talk) 17:46, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
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The entire section was deleted without explanation, so I restored it. I checked the discussion page, and there was no note of explanation. However, in looking back over the history, it seems that a concern has come up about the section duplicating a previous section. If the removal was intentional, and if this was the reason, by all means, reinstate your edit -- with explanation so it does not appear to be vandalism, as this page was recently vandalized in a similar manner. Djneufville ( talk) 23:55, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
The following material was added by an IP editor (IP 172.188.176.124) under Usage and other terms by someone who apparently did not read the whole article. Much of it is already in the section on Jamaica. The Jamaican section could do with a good rewrite. Removed materail:
This article still remains disjointed with the information not particularly well connected. I hope that someone will continue to work on this article with a couple of the history books at their elbow. -- Bejnar 02:14, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
I have to call into question the page that much of this article relies upon: The Jamaican Ministry of Education, Youth & Culture's "National Heroes" website. This source seems to cite no reliable secondary sources, and it is written like a legend rather than scholarship or history: "Nanny prayed night and day. She asked for guidance and strength. Nanny soon had a vision. She was told never to give up the fight for freedom." None of this is cited. It tells a good story, but it simply makes up parts of it. We need facts that are verifiable. I propose that someone should revise this article so that it removes much of the myth and leaves the truth. Folk tales are important, but this is an encyclopedia. We need facts. The history of the Maroons is too important to leave to the children's story hour. There are plenty of scholarly secondary sources for us to use to help us write a verifiable, NPOV, sourced article, but we should be skeptical of sources that sound like they were written to entertain kids. Incidentally, I don't question the Ministry of Education's motives in telling the tale this way. It just isn't all true. Josh a brewer ( talk) 04:33, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Edith Blake wrote an article about the Maroons for The North American Review that was published in 1898. Its in the public domain and may be read or downloaded here:
http://archive.org/details/jstor-25119093
Though written in the "academic style" (more the magazine's claim and probably should be described as popular) of its day it does have some information regarding the Maroons.
Please note that with any text over a hundred years old you are dealing with a historical document with the views, opinions and prejudices of that period.
There are much better books and sources available but this is a 15 minute "free" read and may offer an introduction (albeit a very old one) to anyone new to the subject.
Sluffs ( talk) 12:40, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
I'm currently giving this page an overhaul based on information in Michael Craton's Testing the Chains, which should take a couple of days.
As part of this, I recommend deleting the section on Akan day names at the bottom of this page. It's true that these need a note as they can cause confusion, but I would prefer to flag that inline and link to the page on Akan day names rather than reproduce the information.
I also recommend summarizing the section on Jamaican Maroons in Sierra Leone quite a bit and transferring much of the information here to appropriate main pages for the Second Maroon War and/or Sierra Leone Maroons.
Does anyone have any comments or shall I go ahead? Pen Lewins ( talk) 15:17, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
I made the changes. Pen Lewins ( talk) 14:25, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
I have also made a few improvements to this article, from a historical point of view. By the way, before 1707, Jamaica was an English colony, and after 1707 it was a British colony. Mikesiva ( talk) 11:45, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
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"Maroon" by itself isn't capitalized; it's a condition, not an identity. It is capitalized in Leeward Maroons, Jamaican Maroons (specific groups). deisenbe ( talk) 17:46, 16 December 2019 (UTC)