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This series of events was then known as the Siege of Jackson or the Jackson Siege to distinguish it from the Battle of Jackson of a few months earlier. This Wikipedia article or page should be entitled as the Siege of Jackson not the Jackson Expedition.
Rjr1960 (
talk) 08:30, 30 November 2019 (UTC)reply
Accurate per Dyer, Woodrick. Siege of Jackson actually exists as a redirect to this page. That appears to make it slightly more complicated to change than simply moving the article to the new title and making the current article title a redirect. Since I am planning to work on the article, I will make the change after taking a little time to absorb the instructions on making such a change.
Donner60 (
talk) 00:01, 24 July 2022 (UTC)reply
I suppose the original author may have thought that the Advance on Jackson preceding the siege (possibly using Jackson Expedition as the title) merits a separate title, it preceded and was directly related to the siege and thus should be used as the title which points to the opening of the overall action. Yet the siege and combat are the most important events in the article and the advance seems more properly characterized as part of the background or just a preliminary event to the siege which does not make the best sense being the overall title, Woodrick uses the Siege of Jackson as his book title. Dyer shows Advance on Jackson as a separate action but that may not be enough to keep the current title rather than turning it into the redirect. Dyer also shows Siege of Jackson as the main part of this minor campaign in the aftermath of Vicksburg.
Donner60 (
talk) 10:01, 24 July 2022 (UTC)reply
Siege of Jackson definitely should be the title. Bearss also uses siege rather than 'expedition' as well in his chapter on the subject.
Kges1901 (
talk) 12:03, 24 July 2022 (UTC)reply
Expanding
I am working on expanding the article. I have posted a new lead. I may post each new section in turn. Whether I do it that way or post the rest of the revised article at the same time, I plan to do it promptly - real life permitting, of course.
Donner60 (
talk) 09:18, 24 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Almost finished, just another proofreading and perhaps a little cleanup needed.
Donner60 (
talk) 08:09, 7 June 2023 (UTC)reply
I may cut back the Background section up to End of the Siege of Vicksburg. It's good preliminary information in a stand-alone context for the article but may be more than is needed here, considering links to prior articles. I'll keep some of it but assuming I cut some of the information, I will keep that part somewhere because it is all referenced and may be useful in other articles. So it may take a little longer to have a final version but I think I am still close to finishing.
Donner60 (
talk) 20:39, 7 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Finished the expansion yesterday.
Donner60 (
talk) 04:32, 13 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Did you know nomination
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk) 16:00, 23 June 2023 (UTC)reply
... that Confederates played a piano in the trenches during a Union assault at Jackson, Mississippi? Source: Woodrick, Jim. The Civil War Siege of Jackson, Mississippi. Charleston, SC: The History Press, 2016. ISBN 978-1-62619-729-9. Page 70.
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Donner60: Good article but there's one major issue. While the article was 5x expanded, it doesn't look to have been done in the past 7 days, instead being done over a longer stretch of time. You might have to bring this up to the DYK talk page to see if i'm wrong but that's something i noticed.
Onegreatjoke (
talk) 01:44, 13 June 2023 (UTC)reply
OK, I'll ask. I did work on it for more than 7 days. I only finished the expansion yesterday and inserted the hook less than 7 days ago. I hope that counts. Otherwise, I suppose I have an extra QPQ for later.
Donner60 (
talk) 01:51, 13 June 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Onegreatjoke: I have looked at the supplementary rules and it is clear to me that this does not qualify because the article improvement took place over more than 7 days. I would like to withdraw the nomination. I can't find any special icon or procedure for a withdrawal. All my previous DYKs were from new articles; obviously I did not pay enough attention to the rules for expansions. Thanks for looking at this.
Donner60 (
talk) 02:04, 15 June 2023 (UTC)reply
This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the
United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions.
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This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
This series of events was then known as the Siege of Jackson or the Jackson Siege to distinguish it from the Battle of Jackson of a few months earlier. This Wikipedia article or page should be entitled as the Siege of Jackson not the Jackson Expedition.
Rjr1960 (
talk) 08:30, 30 November 2019 (UTC)reply
Accurate per Dyer, Woodrick. Siege of Jackson actually exists as a redirect to this page. That appears to make it slightly more complicated to change than simply moving the article to the new title and making the current article title a redirect. Since I am planning to work on the article, I will make the change after taking a little time to absorb the instructions on making such a change.
Donner60 (
talk) 00:01, 24 July 2022 (UTC)reply
I suppose the original author may have thought that the Advance on Jackson preceding the siege (possibly using Jackson Expedition as the title) merits a separate title, it preceded and was directly related to the siege and thus should be used as the title which points to the opening of the overall action. Yet the siege and combat are the most important events in the article and the advance seems more properly characterized as part of the background or just a preliminary event to the siege which does not make the best sense being the overall title, Woodrick uses the Siege of Jackson as his book title. Dyer shows Advance on Jackson as a separate action but that may not be enough to keep the current title rather than turning it into the redirect. Dyer also shows Siege of Jackson as the main part of this minor campaign in the aftermath of Vicksburg.
Donner60 (
talk) 10:01, 24 July 2022 (UTC)reply
Siege of Jackson definitely should be the title. Bearss also uses siege rather than 'expedition' as well in his chapter on the subject.
Kges1901 (
talk) 12:03, 24 July 2022 (UTC)reply
Expanding
I am working on expanding the article. I have posted a new lead. I may post each new section in turn. Whether I do it that way or post the rest of the revised article at the same time, I plan to do it promptly - real life permitting, of course.
Donner60 (
talk) 09:18, 24 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Almost finished, just another proofreading and perhaps a little cleanup needed.
Donner60 (
talk) 08:09, 7 June 2023 (UTC)reply
I may cut back the Background section up to End of the Siege of Vicksburg. It's good preliminary information in a stand-alone context for the article but may be more than is needed here, considering links to prior articles. I'll keep some of it but assuming I cut some of the information, I will keep that part somewhere because it is all referenced and may be useful in other articles. So it may take a little longer to have a final version but I think I am still close to finishing.
Donner60 (
talk) 20:39, 7 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Finished the expansion yesterday.
Donner60 (
talk) 04:32, 13 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Did you know nomination
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk) 16:00, 23 June 2023 (UTC)reply
... that Confederates played a piano in the trenches during a Union assault at Jackson, Mississippi? Source: Woodrick, Jim. The Civil War Siege of Jackson, Mississippi. Charleston, SC: The History Press, 2016. ISBN 978-1-62619-729-9. Page 70.
@
Donner60: Good article but there's one major issue. While the article was 5x expanded, it doesn't look to have been done in the past 7 days, instead being done over a longer stretch of time. You might have to bring this up to the DYK talk page to see if i'm wrong but that's something i noticed.
Onegreatjoke (
talk) 01:44, 13 June 2023 (UTC)reply
OK, I'll ask. I did work on it for more than 7 days. I only finished the expansion yesterday and inserted the hook less than 7 days ago. I hope that counts. Otherwise, I suppose I have an extra QPQ for later.
Donner60 (
talk) 01:51, 13 June 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Onegreatjoke: I have looked at the supplementary rules and it is clear to me that this does not qualify because the article improvement took place over more than 7 days. I would like to withdraw the nomination. I can't find any special icon or procedure for a withdrawal. All my previous DYKs were from new articles; obviously I did not pay enough attention to the rules for expansions. Thanks for looking at this.
Donner60 (
talk) 02:04, 15 June 2023 (UTC)reply