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The wording could be more NPOV; the sentence, "They [the police] then took some time to gather their spent shell casing before withdrawing, leaving the scene in the hands of the National Guardsmen" seems to suggest cold-bloodedness. The key words are "took some time" -- the picture is of calmly collecting shell casings, presumably to hide the number of rounds fired. If that is what needs to be said, we should say it outright -- citing a court witness, or historian, etc. In fact, is the fact of gathering up the casings significant? Needs a citation for the statistic "460 rounds of ammunition" -- more than just "FBI estimate." LandruBek 08:01, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Of course the police were calm. They were white Mississippi cops who had just got to shoot them some African Americans(not that they'd use the "AA words" for them). They probably had a cookout to celebrate later. Let's not pretend these guys deserve objectivity. Ken Burch 00:27, 5 May 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.174.73.121 ( talk)
The National Guard was on alert at Jackson State on May 14th but was not involved in the shooting. According to Robert M. O'Neil, et al, in No Heroes, No Villains the Guard was awaiting the withdrawal of the Mississippi Highway Patrol prior to entering the area. Since the MHP never left, the Guard never moved forward. This is unfortunate because the Guard, in Mississippi at least, was the agency better prepared to deal with crowd control.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.231.80.245 ( talk) 06:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Do you think mention should be made that the "sniper" alibi was also used by the Ohio National Guardsmen after the Kent State shootings, and is a fairly common excuse when armed officers engage in this kind of behavior? Remember that in the case of Kent State, the excuse was ultimately discredited. 140.247.248.204 18:21, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
The article says the protesters "started fires," but that's a very ambiguous phrase. Did they build bonfires? Did they set fire to cars, buildings, or trees and shrubs? Obviously the weren't just holding candles because the fire department had to be called in, but this description of events could use some clarification. — MiguelMunoz ( talk) 19:48, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Were they protesting the Vietnam/Cambodia war, or just protesting/rioting over a rumor. As the wiki currently stands it makes it clear that they were protesting over Vietnam/Cambodia, yet there are zero sources that have been cited that say that. Seems to have been a protest/riot over a rumor of the mayor's death. Someone is rewriting history on wikipedia. http://web.archive.org/web/20061201034204/...tate_University http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.p...oryId=126426361 http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/2210...=21106404282431 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.0.16.245 ( talk) 22:30, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Definition of Miler by Merriam-Webster https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/miler Define miler: a runner in a race that is a mile long — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.127.201.40 ( talk) 08:35, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) ~ Aseleste ( t, e | c, l) 09:46, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
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The former bold move is mentioned above.
17:43, 17 April 2021 Sphynxdragon talk contribs block 98 bytes +98 Sphynxdragon moved page Jackson State killings to Jackson State killings (May 15, 1970): These incidents happen so often having the date in the title is helpful for research purposes when looking at all of the incidents. On Category pages like “Black people shot dead by law enforcement officers in the United States” or “Filmed killings by law enforcement” it’s impossible to tell when these incidents happened without clicking every article.
See also
17:41, 17 April 2021 Sphynxdragon talk contribs block 106 bytes +106 Sphynxdragon moved page Danziger Bridge shootings to Danziger Bridge shootings (September 4, 2005): These incidents happen so often having the date in the title is useful for research purposes when looking at all of the incidents. On Category pages like “Black people shot dead by law enforcement officers in the United States” or “Filmed killings by law enforcement” it’s impossible to tell when these incidents happened to get a sense of prevalence with clicking every single article.
which is now itself the subject of an RM at Talk:Danziger Bridge shootings (September 4, 2005)#Requested move 17 April 2021.
These raise some interesting issues with respect to navigation, IMO. I preserve them here as they will likely be otherwise lost to general view. Andrewa ( talk) 16:43, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
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On 17 April 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from Jackson State killings (May 15, 1970) to Jackson State killings. The result of the discussion was moved. |
The wording could be more NPOV; the sentence, "They [the police] then took some time to gather their spent shell casing before withdrawing, leaving the scene in the hands of the National Guardsmen" seems to suggest cold-bloodedness. The key words are "took some time" -- the picture is of calmly collecting shell casings, presumably to hide the number of rounds fired. If that is what needs to be said, we should say it outright -- citing a court witness, or historian, etc. In fact, is the fact of gathering up the casings significant? Needs a citation for the statistic "460 rounds of ammunition" -- more than just "FBI estimate." LandruBek 08:01, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Of course the police were calm. They were white Mississippi cops who had just got to shoot them some African Americans(not that they'd use the "AA words" for them). They probably had a cookout to celebrate later. Let's not pretend these guys deserve objectivity. Ken Burch 00:27, 5 May 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.174.73.121 ( talk)
The National Guard was on alert at Jackson State on May 14th but was not involved in the shooting. According to Robert M. O'Neil, et al, in No Heroes, No Villains the Guard was awaiting the withdrawal of the Mississippi Highway Patrol prior to entering the area. Since the MHP never left, the Guard never moved forward. This is unfortunate because the Guard, in Mississippi at least, was the agency better prepared to deal with crowd control.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.231.80.245 ( talk) 06:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Do you think mention should be made that the "sniper" alibi was also used by the Ohio National Guardsmen after the Kent State shootings, and is a fairly common excuse when armed officers engage in this kind of behavior? Remember that in the case of Kent State, the excuse was ultimately discredited. 140.247.248.204 18:21, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
The article says the protesters "started fires," but that's a very ambiguous phrase. Did they build bonfires? Did they set fire to cars, buildings, or trees and shrubs? Obviously the weren't just holding candles because the fire department had to be called in, but this description of events could use some clarification. — MiguelMunoz ( talk) 19:48, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Were they protesting the Vietnam/Cambodia war, or just protesting/rioting over a rumor. As the wiki currently stands it makes it clear that they were protesting over Vietnam/Cambodia, yet there are zero sources that have been cited that say that. Seems to have been a protest/riot over a rumor of the mayor's death. Someone is rewriting history on wikipedia. http://web.archive.org/web/20061201034204/...tate_University http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.p...oryId=126426361 http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/2210...=21106404282431 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.0.16.245 ( talk) 22:30, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Definition of Miler by Merriam-Webster https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/miler Define miler: a runner in a race that is a mile long — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.127.201.40 ( talk) 08:35, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) ~ Aseleste ( t, e | c, l) 09:46, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
Jackson State killings (May 15, 1970) →
Jackson State killings – This is
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC with no secondary topic, no disambiguation is warranted. –
Reidgreg (
talk) 18:34, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
The former bold move is mentioned above.
17:43, 17 April 2021 Sphynxdragon talk contribs block 98 bytes +98 Sphynxdragon moved page Jackson State killings to Jackson State killings (May 15, 1970): These incidents happen so often having the date in the title is helpful for research purposes when looking at all of the incidents. On Category pages like “Black people shot dead by law enforcement officers in the United States” or “Filmed killings by law enforcement” it’s impossible to tell when these incidents happened without clicking every article.
See also
17:41, 17 April 2021 Sphynxdragon talk contribs block 106 bytes +106 Sphynxdragon moved page Danziger Bridge shootings to Danziger Bridge shootings (September 4, 2005): These incidents happen so often having the date in the title is useful for research purposes when looking at all of the incidents. On Category pages like “Black people shot dead by law enforcement officers in the United States” or “Filmed killings by law enforcement” it’s impossible to tell when these incidents happened to get a sense of prevalence with clicking every single article.
which is now itself the subject of an RM at Talk:Danziger Bridge shootings (September 4, 2005)#Requested move 17 April 2021.
These raise some interesting issues with respect to navigation, IMO. I preserve them here as they will likely be otherwise lost to general view. Andrewa ( talk) 16:43, 26 April 2021 (UTC)