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Ivar Vidfamne is the same as Ivar the Boneless
I is not my teori but a teori of Kirsten Møller see ISBN 87-986342-0-8 Haabet 03:53, 2005 May 18 (UTC)
Vem var Ivar Vidfamne? (2006-04-12) Vem var Ivar Vidfamne som har gett Ivar Vidfamnes gata dess namn?
Svar: Ivar Vidfamne var en dansk sagokung, som berättas ha fått sitt tillnamn genom att lägga under sig stora områden kring Östersjön, bl a Sveaväldet, och i Saxland och England. Enligt sagan var han farmors far till Sigurd Ring.
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Ivar Vidfamne, dansk sagokonung, son af Halfdan, hvilken på anstiftan af Ingjald Illrådes (se I n g-j a l d 1) dotter Åsa blef dräpt af sin broder konung Gudröd i Skåne, Asas make. När hon efter Gudröds död farit hem till sin fader, följde I. efter med en stor här för att hämnas, och Ingjald, som ej vågade strida mot öfvermakten, tog sig själf af daga. Därefter lade I. under sig hela Svea välde, hela Danmark, en stor del af Saxland, länderna kring Östersjön och en........
-- Arigato1 10:02, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Hur fan kan han vara en dansk kung när han beskrivs som kung av Götarna och hans rike e småland, götaland och östra svealand?
e det bara jag som osar utländsk okunskap och förväxling eller har nån halvlärd jänkare skrivit detta? eller i varje fall så har någon gjort artikelns karta lite väl fel...
--Carl
He was not danish, he was scanian. archeological evidence points toward scania being an independent kingdom at the time of Ivar, before being conquered and connected to the danish kingdom around 970-1000 ad. Since he is described as being born in scania and being scanian and the started as the ruler of scania before his conquest made him king of Sweden, Denmark and so on, we can presume that he was scanian and NOT danish nor swedish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.230.139.182 ( talk) 17:57, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
Ivar Vidamne is the son of Gudröd, king over Swede, Sealand and Saxland with sit in Sealand.
The Hversu Noregr byggðist and Njáls saga tells from Ivar "boneless", son of Harald, King of Northumbria (Danelag occupation) and Rogaland? in Norge (before). That myths play 100 years later. The myths say he is a son of Ragnar (a myths construction), but he is a son of harald of harald the gamle and he has a daughter with deep-mind.
The Myths remix Ivar of Scane and Ivar boneless, but real that are different peoples. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.159.60.52 ( talk) 17:51, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
The suggested Danish name "Ivar Vidfadme" is incorrect. "Fadme" is not even a modern Danish word, "favne" on the other means "fathoms". All books in Danish I could find on google books use "Vidfavne".Here is a selection of sources that uses Vidfavne spanning from 1898 to 2013 [1] [2] [3] [4] ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 14:41, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
Vidfame 😉 92.96.96.13 ( talk) 08:43, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
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Ivar Vidfamne is the same as Ivar the Boneless
I is not my teori but a teori of Kirsten Møller see ISBN 87-986342-0-8 Haabet 03:53, 2005 May 18 (UTC)
Vem var Ivar Vidfamne? (2006-04-12) Vem var Ivar Vidfamne som har gett Ivar Vidfamnes gata dess namn?
Svar: Ivar Vidfamne var en dansk sagokung, som berättas ha fått sitt tillnamn genom att lägga under sig stora områden kring Östersjön, bl a Sveaväldet, och i Saxland och England. Enligt sagan var han farmors far till Sigurd Ring.
http://www.stockholm.se/Extern/Templates/FAQPage.aspx?id=90526
NORDISK FAMILJEBOK
KONVERSATIONSLEXIKON
OCH
REALENCYKLOPEDI:
Ivar Vidfamne, dansk sagokonung, son af Halfdan, hvilken på anstiftan af Ingjald Illrådes (se I n g-j a l d 1) dotter Åsa blef dräpt af sin broder konung Gudröd i Skåne, Asas make. När hon efter Gudröds död farit hem till sin fader, följde I. efter med en stor här för att hämnas, och Ingjald, som ej vågade strida mot öfvermakten, tog sig själf af daga. Därefter lade I. under sig hela Svea välde, hela Danmark, en stor del af Saxland, länderna kring Östersjön och en........
-- Arigato1 10:02, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Hur fan kan han vara en dansk kung när han beskrivs som kung av Götarna och hans rike e småland, götaland och östra svealand?
e det bara jag som osar utländsk okunskap och förväxling eller har nån halvlärd jänkare skrivit detta? eller i varje fall så har någon gjort artikelns karta lite väl fel...
--Carl
He was not danish, he was scanian. archeological evidence points toward scania being an independent kingdom at the time of Ivar, before being conquered and connected to the danish kingdom around 970-1000 ad. Since he is described as being born in scania and being scanian and the started as the ruler of scania before his conquest made him king of Sweden, Denmark and so on, we can presume that he was scanian and NOT danish nor swedish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.230.139.182 ( talk) 17:57, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
Ivar Vidamne is the son of Gudröd, king over Swede, Sealand and Saxland with sit in Sealand.
The Hversu Noregr byggðist and Njáls saga tells from Ivar "boneless", son of Harald, King of Northumbria (Danelag occupation) and Rogaland? in Norge (before). That myths play 100 years later. The myths say he is a son of Ragnar (a myths construction), but he is a son of harald of harald the gamle and he has a daughter with deep-mind.
The Myths remix Ivar of Scane and Ivar boneless, but real that are different peoples. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.159.60.52 ( talk) 17:51, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
The suggested Danish name "Ivar Vidfadme" is incorrect. "Fadme" is not even a modern Danish word, "favne" on the other means "fathoms". All books in Danish I could find on google books use "Vidfavne".Here is a selection of sources that uses Vidfavne spanning from 1898 to 2013 [1] [2] [3] [4] ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 14:41, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
Vidfame 😉 92.96.96.13 ( talk) 08:43, 13 October 2022 (UTC)