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I am considering removing or substituting the first reference in this article. Earlier, this article reported an Italian Chilean population of 800,000 (unreferenced).
Later, a user modified this figure to 96,000 and included a reference for the figure. The number was later reverted to 800,000 but the reference was not removed.
The reference points to an Italian web page with estimates of the numbers of Italian citizens residing outside Italy as of 1998. - signed by an anon IP
150,000 Chileans stated they were of Italian descent, but it's possible the total number of any Chilean with Italian descent is 800,000. 67.49.85.100 ( talk) 23:00, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
In this article the definition of Italian Chilean is specifically "Chileans of full or predominately Italian descent."
In the Nicole Polizzi Wikipedia article the source used to "prove" she's Italian Chilean is a second hand account of an interview Joy Behar had with the Jersey Shore cast members http://www.ivillage.com/joy-behar-jersey-shore-cast-view/1-a-118100#ixzz134SxcSIk and I'm not even sure it qualifies as a reliable source. Within that account the statement is made quote, Turns out Snooki is "more of a Chilean" and a little bit Sicilian -- "but not that much", unquote. It's not even clear who has made the comments in quotations.
There are also no reliable sources I could find online which stated Snooki had any Italian (or Sicilian) heritage. Reliable sources simply state she was born in Chile and was adopted by an Italian American family.
And to clarify, I'm not arguing that Sicilians should not be included as Italians...my argument is that "a little bit Sicilian but not that much" is nowhere near close enough to "predominately" for her to be included as an Italian Chilean. There is also no actual reliable source that she has any Italian or Sicilian blood whatsoever.
I have also brought this up for discussion on the Nicole Polizzi Wikipedia page. Slinkybinky ( talk) 09:53, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
This is the dialogue, in part:
Joy Behar: I'd like to point out that Snooki is not Italian
Sherri Shepherd: What are you?
Elisabeth Hasselbeck: Are you part Italian?
Snooki: Sicilian but more of a Chilean.
Joy Behar: Oh you are part Sicilian? Well that would make you Italian.
Snooki: But not that much
Joy Behar: Not that much?
Snooki: I'm more of a Chilean
Because of Snooki self-describing herself basically as just a little bit Italian, I don't think she should be listed as Italian Chilean since that describes someone who is full or mostly Italian. Slinkybinky ( talk) 18:39, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
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I am considering removing or substituting the first reference in this article. Earlier, this article reported an Italian Chilean population of 800,000 (unreferenced).
Later, a user modified this figure to 96,000 and included a reference for the figure. The number was later reverted to 800,000 but the reference was not removed.
The reference points to an Italian web page with estimates of the numbers of Italian citizens residing outside Italy as of 1998. - signed by an anon IP
150,000 Chileans stated they were of Italian descent, but it's possible the total number of any Chilean with Italian descent is 800,000. 67.49.85.100 ( talk) 23:00, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
In this article the definition of Italian Chilean is specifically "Chileans of full or predominately Italian descent."
In the Nicole Polizzi Wikipedia article the source used to "prove" she's Italian Chilean is a second hand account of an interview Joy Behar had with the Jersey Shore cast members http://www.ivillage.com/joy-behar-jersey-shore-cast-view/1-a-118100#ixzz134SxcSIk and I'm not even sure it qualifies as a reliable source. Within that account the statement is made quote, Turns out Snooki is "more of a Chilean" and a little bit Sicilian -- "but not that much", unquote. It's not even clear who has made the comments in quotations.
There are also no reliable sources I could find online which stated Snooki had any Italian (or Sicilian) heritage. Reliable sources simply state she was born in Chile and was adopted by an Italian American family.
And to clarify, I'm not arguing that Sicilians should not be included as Italians...my argument is that "a little bit Sicilian but not that much" is nowhere near close enough to "predominately" for her to be included as an Italian Chilean. There is also no actual reliable source that she has any Italian or Sicilian blood whatsoever.
I have also brought this up for discussion on the Nicole Polizzi Wikipedia page. Slinkybinky ( talk) 09:53, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
This is the dialogue, in part:
Joy Behar: I'd like to point out that Snooki is not Italian
Sherri Shepherd: What are you?
Elisabeth Hasselbeck: Are you part Italian?
Snooki: Sicilian but more of a Chilean.
Joy Behar: Oh you are part Sicilian? Well that would make you Italian.
Snooki: But not that much
Joy Behar: Not that much?
Snooki: I'm more of a Chilean
Because of Snooki self-describing herself basically as just a little bit Italian, I don't think she should be listed as Italian Chilean since that describes someone who is full or mostly Italian. Slinkybinky ( talk) 18:39, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
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