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It is at the very least an exaggeration, if not inaccurate, to state that graduates of Istanbul University form the main supply of academic personnel to the rest of the Turkish higher education system. There are no statistics to support this claim. The statement concerned only relects the partiality of the writer of the article and should be amended. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.97.206.199 ( talk • contribs) 19:51, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Supposedly 1453 was also when the old Byzantine University was closed down. Any information on whether this is true and on whether the Istanbul University is the Byzantine university refounded? Sephia karta 15:39, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
There was no such thing as a Byzantine University. DragonTiger23 ( talk) 12:17, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
University of Constantinople was founded in 425 AD. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Constantinople — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.119.138.205 ( talk) 02:31, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
If it is established at 1453 the funder should be Mehmet the Conqueror. If it is funded by Kemal Atatürk then it is established at 1933. The author should change the infobox to what is more accurate. agmpinia 19:39, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Doesn't it look confusing? Umutarikan
The University was founded in the late 19th century - the history of the University starts from the date of its founding, not sooner. A medrese as a place of higher education is -organisationally speaking- a totally different thing than a western University. So the only date should be that of the official founding of the institution. One can mention the existence of one medrese or more prior to the founding of the University.
Could Dr. Serdar Bulun be added to the list of notable alumni?
204.62.118.154 (
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17:17, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
I won to know ,if my son wont to study at your university, can yuo offer this in english language. Thank you from Tirana Albania —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.207.35.18 ( talk) 09:09, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Same this ques Shabi naeemy ( talk) 21:49, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
The Servet-i-Funun wrote about its 1917 reorganization https://archives.saltresearch.org/bitstream/123456789/129156/361/PFSIF9170524B004.jpg
from Issue #1349, 24 May 1917, French edition WhisperToMe ( talk) 04:52, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
Istanbul University was not founded in 1453. This is a falsehood. Turkish scholar and public intellectual Celal Şengör also objected to this along with journalist Fatih Altaylı. [1] [2] [3] This is the same case with Turkish Land Forces as the foundation date stated there was 209 BC. Before 1933, the year when Istanbul University was established, the place was used as a madrasah. So, calling the madrasah that was inherited and then transformed from Byzantines in 1453 as Istanbul University is like calling Constantinople, İstanbul. What do you think @ SilentResident:-- V. E. ( talk) 18:32, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
The IP user violates 3rr. Already presented sources state the year 1453 is a falsehood. Also WP:BRITANNICA is not a reliable source. The information was added after a concencus and should not be changed without another one. @ Mwiqdoh: @ SilentResident:-- V. E. ( talk) 14:19, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
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SilentResident: this person is a greek editor and always seems to support you. this is the one you always refer to. I can confirm this. You should check out the references from the founding date of oxford or other universities. (...) the references you show in many places appear to be controversial and have already started to be deleted. I hope you will put an end to this propaganda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.245.195.203 ( talk) 14:24, 18 June 2021 (UTC) There are no unfounded accusations. You are making historical disinformation and propaganda. How was Oxford University founded? How was the date of establishment referenced?. As seen on your SilentResident talk page, your friendship becomes clear. It is certainly not impartial. |
https://www.ox.ac.uk/about/organisation/history
Histroy : https://www.istanbul.edu.tr/tr/content/universitemiz/tarihce
is not controversial. The foundation dates of other universities are also taken as reference. I showed you how to reference the foundation dates of other universities. You are still vandalizing.Celal Şengör is an extreme person who says that Fatih Sultan Mehmet is a Christian. You are presenting extremist anti-Turkish ideas as a source without any academic work.
so your defense is copyright? I'm showing you a realistic source. I am not citing an extreme geologist(Celal Şengör). This is the history article of Istanbul University. This article is in many places.
(redacted) — Preceding
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88.245.195.203 (
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16:01, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Comment: Everyone should ignore the lengthy post by IP. They have been banned by the Admins and the same fate awaits everyone who may insist with either disruptions, harassments or insults against fellow editors or violating Wikipedia's rules. There is no
WP:CONSENSUS for using fringe dates and it goes against Wikipedia's
WP:NEUTRALITY and
WP:VERIFIABILITY rules. Good day everyone! ---
❖ SilentResident ❖ (
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contribs ✎)
18:26, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
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It is at the very least an exaggeration, if not inaccurate, to state that graduates of Istanbul University form the main supply of academic personnel to the rest of the Turkish higher education system. There are no statistics to support this claim. The statement concerned only relects the partiality of the writer of the article and should be amended. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.97.206.199 ( talk • contribs) 19:51, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Supposedly 1453 was also when the old Byzantine University was closed down. Any information on whether this is true and on whether the Istanbul University is the Byzantine university refounded? Sephia karta 15:39, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
There was no such thing as a Byzantine University. DragonTiger23 ( talk) 12:17, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
University of Constantinople was founded in 425 AD. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Constantinople — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.119.138.205 ( talk) 02:31, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
If it is established at 1453 the funder should be Mehmet the Conqueror. If it is funded by Kemal Atatürk then it is established at 1933. The author should change the infobox to what is more accurate. agmpinia 19:39, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Doesn't it look confusing? Umutarikan
The University was founded in the late 19th century - the history of the University starts from the date of its founding, not sooner. A medrese as a place of higher education is -organisationally speaking- a totally different thing than a western University. So the only date should be that of the official founding of the institution. One can mention the existence of one medrese or more prior to the founding of the University.
Could Dr. Serdar Bulun be added to the list of notable alumni?
204.62.118.154 (
talk)
17:17, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
I won to know ,if my son wont to study at your university, can yuo offer this in english language. Thank you from Tirana Albania —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.207.35.18 ( talk) 09:09, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Same this ques Shabi naeemy ( talk) 21:49, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
The Servet-i-Funun wrote about its 1917 reorganization https://archives.saltresearch.org/bitstream/123456789/129156/361/PFSIF9170524B004.jpg
from Issue #1349, 24 May 1917, French edition WhisperToMe ( talk) 04:52, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
Istanbul University was not founded in 1453. This is a falsehood. Turkish scholar and public intellectual Celal Şengör also objected to this along with journalist Fatih Altaylı. [1] [2] [3] This is the same case with Turkish Land Forces as the foundation date stated there was 209 BC. Before 1933, the year when Istanbul University was established, the place was used as a madrasah. So, calling the madrasah that was inherited and then transformed from Byzantines in 1453 as Istanbul University is like calling Constantinople, İstanbul. What do you think @ SilentResident:-- V. E. ( talk) 18:32, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
The IP user violates 3rr. Already presented sources state the year 1453 is a falsehood. Also WP:BRITANNICA is not a reliable source. The information was added after a concencus and should not be changed without another one. @ Mwiqdoh: @ SilentResident:-- V. E. ( talk) 14:19, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Unrelevent to the discussion
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SilentResident: this person is a greek editor and always seems to support you. this is the one you always refer to. I can confirm this. You should check out the references from the founding date of oxford or other universities. (...) the references you show in many places appear to be controversial and have already started to be deleted. I hope you will put an end to this propaganda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.245.195.203 ( talk) 14:24, 18 June 2021 (UTC) There are no unfounded accusations. You are making historical disinformation and propaganda. How was Oxford University founded? How was the date of establishment referenced?. As seen on your SilentResident talk page, your friendship becomes clear. It is certainly not impartial. |
https://www.ox.ac.uk/about/organisation/history
Histroy : https://www.istanbul.edu.tr/tr/content/universitemiz/tarihce
is not controversial. The foundation dates of other universities are also taken as reference. I showed you how to reference the foundation dates of other universities. You are still vandalizing.Celal Şengör is an extreme person who says that Fatih Sultan Mehmet is a Christian. You are presenting extremist anti-Turkish ideas as a source without any academic work.
so your defense is copyright? I'm showing you a realistic source. I am not citing an extreme geologist(Celal Şengör). This is the history article of Istanbul University. This article is in many places.
(redacted) — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
88.245.195.203 (
talk)
16:01, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Comment: Everyone should ignore the lengthy post by IP. They have been banned by the Admins and the same fate awaits everyone who may insist with either disruptions, harassments or insults against fellow editors or violating Wikipedia's rules. There is no
WP:CONSENSUS for using fringe dates and it goes against Wikipedia's
WP:NEUTRALITY and
WP:VERIFIABILITY rules. Good day everyone! ---
❖ SilentResident ❖ (
talk ✉ |
contribs ✎)
18:26, 18 June 2021 (UTC)