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While the author of the article does good work, I am a bit concerned of the style of writing done here. Here, it reads more like a journalistic approach to what has happened, and doesn't really look like something Wikipedia wants. I think revamping of edits is the next step and make it sound as neutral as possible. Mr.Wikipediania ( Stalk • Talk) 14:08, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Style objections are not grounds for deletion. You don't like the style? Fix it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kipa Aduma, Esq. ( talk • contribs) 14:11, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Here is what the source actually says.
So why haven’t we disposed of the ashes of the terrorists at sea? Why are we providing “holy places” for the ethos of Jew-hatred and murder, which has turned into the essence of their national existence? Who do we seek to make peace with, and what kind of peace can we expect of someone whose heroes are the murderers from Jerusalem Machne Yehuda Market (16 fatalities,) the buses in Beersheba (17 fatalities,) or Jerusalem’s Route 2 (23 fatalities)?
Here is your attempt at summarsising that passage.
Elyakim Haetzni questioned Israel's tolerance of the "ethos of Jew-hatred and murder" and the viability of peace with someone "whose heroes are the murderers"
Here is my version, which you removed without giving any reason. '
Elyakim Haetzni asked why the ashes of these individuals had not been buried at sea, but had instead provided the opportunity for what he termed 'holy places' to be an ethos of Jew-hatred and murder.
Why dd you revert my version? Where do you get the words tolerance and viability from? Please improve your effort, by using my work. I know that you are looking for suggestions, so i do expect a reply. Dalai lama ding dong ( talk) 17:23, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Here is the current wording In June 2012, Israel handed over the bodies of Palestinian suicide bombers and other militants as part of a goodwill gesture to PA chairman Mahmoud Abbas to help revive the peace talks and reinstate direct negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians
Here is what the 2 sources that you give state on that gesture.
. Israel said it hoped the gesture would build confidence between the two sides and help revive the moribund peace process, which run aground in late 2010 in an intractable dispute over settlement building.
"We hope that this humanitarian gesture will serve both as a confidence building measure and help get the peace process back on track," said Mark Regev, spokesman for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
Your claim is therefore pure OR, and you should restore my text that the reference to a goodwill gesture, is entirely an I sraeli claim, and is not substantiated by other sources. Please make that change. Dalai lama ding dong ( talk) 17:39, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Anyone has a better suggestion? TheCuriousGnome ( talk) 12:22, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Ankhmorpork. You
After a modest military ceremony attended by the families of the dead, the coffins were carried out one by one into the streets by emotional relatives who loaded them onto trucks and into ambulances for burial in their hometowns.
So, please restore the adjective, as per source. And please don't delete information without checking the source beforehand. Nishidani ( talk) 12:27, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
This section does not seem to belong here.
This part is really a repeat of the lead <<<<The Israeli government transferred the bodies as an incentive to restart the peace process between Israelis and Palestinians. Mark Regev, the Israeli government spokesman, said, "We hope that this humanitarian gesture will serve both as a confidence-building measure and help get the peace process back on track... Israel is ready for the immediate resumption of peace talks without any preconditions whatsoever.">>>
This part does not seem to relate to the subject matter. Unless it can be related, then I think it should be removed. It probably belongs in another article about the I-P peace process.
<<<However, the transfer did not restart the peace process, and Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas said he would only negotiate if Israel re-froze settlement construction and negotiated based on the "1967 lines."[5] The Jerusalem Post reported that Israeli authorities are upset over the Palestinian Authority's failure to respond positively to a number of goodwill gestures, which indicates that Mahmoud Abbas is "unable to enter into negotiations that will require concessions" and "despite a series of steps taken by Israel, the Palestinian Authority nevertheless continues in a very negative pattern of behavior." Other goodwill gestures included agreeing to start negotiations with the Palestinians on developing the Gaza Marine gas field off the Gaza Strip coast, the signing of an economic accord with the Palestinian Authority to enhance trade and crack down on tax evasion, the decision to transfer NIS 180 million of tax money to the Palestinian Authority so salaries could be paid; and the decision to increase the number of Palestinian construction workers allowed to work in the country by some 5,000.[14]>>>
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While the author of the article does good work, I am a bit concerned of the style of writing done here. Here, it reads more like a journalistic approach to what has happened, and doesn't really look like something Wikipedia wants. I think revamping of edits is the next step and make it sound as neutral as possible. Mr.Wikipediania ( Stalk • Talk) 14:08, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Style objections are not grounds for deletion. You don't like the style? Fix it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kipa Aduma, Esq. ( talk • contribs) 14:11, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Here is what the source actually says.
So why haven’t we disposed of the ashes of the terrorists at sea? Why are we providing “holy places” for the ethos of Jew-hatred and murder, which has turned into the essence of their national existence? Who do we seek to make peace with, and what kind of peace can we expect of someone whose heroes are the murderers from Jerusalem Machne Yehuda Market (16 fatalities,) the buses in Beersheba (17 fatalities,) or Jerusalem’s Route 2 (23 fatalities)?
Here is your attempt at summarsising that passage.
Elyakim Haetzni questioned Israel's tolerance of the "ethos of Jew-hatred and murder" and the viability of peace with someone "whose heroes are the murderers"
Here is my version, which you removed without giving any reason. '
Elyakim Haetzni asked why the ashes of these individuals had not been buried at sea, but had instead provided the opportunity for what he termed 'holy places' to be an ethos of Jew-hatred and murder.
Why dd you revert my version? Where do you get the words tolerance and viability from? Please improve your effort, by using my work. I know that you are looking for suggestions, so i do expect a reply. Dalai lama ding dong ( talk) 17:23, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Here is the current wording In June 2012, Israel handed over the bodies of Palestinian suicide bombers and other militants as part of a goodwill gesture to PA chairman Mahmoud Abbas to help revive the peace talks and reinstate direct negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians
Here is what the 2 sources that you give state on that gesture.
. Israel said it hoped the gesture would build confidence between the two sides and help revive the moribund peace process, which run aground in late 2010 in an intractable dispute over settlement building.
"We hope that this humanitarian gesture will serve both as a confidence building measure and help get the peace process back on track," said Mark Regev, spokesman for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
Your claim is therefore pure OR, and you should restore my text that the reference to a goodwill gesture, is entirely an I sraeli claim, and is not substantiated by other sources. Please make that change. Dalai lama ding dong ( talk) 17:39, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Anyone has a better suggestion? TheCuriousGnome ( talk) 12:22, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Ankhmorpork. You
After a modest military ceremony attended by the families of the dead, the coffins were carried out one by one into the streets by emotional relatives who loaded them onto trucks and into ambulances for burial in their hometowns.
So, please restore the adjective, as per source. And please don't delete information without checking the source beforehand. Nishidani ( talk) 12:27, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
This section does not seem to belong here.
This part is really a repeat of the lead <<<<The Israeli government transferred the bodies as an incentive to restart the peace process between Israelis and Palestinians. Mark Regev, the Israeli government spokesman, said, "We hope that this humanitarian gesture will serve both as a confidence-building measure and help get the peace process back on track... Israel is ready for the immediate resumption of peace talks without any preconditions whatsoever.">>>
This part does not seem to relate to the subject matter. Unless it can be related, then I think it should be removed. It probably belongs in another article about the I-P peace process.
<<<However, the transfer did not restart the peace process, and Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas said he would only negotiate if Israel re-froze settlement construction and negotiated based on the "1967 lines."[5] The Jerusalem Post reported that Israeli authorities are upset over the Palestinian Authority's failure to respond positively to a number of goodwill gestures, which indicates that Mahmoud Abbas is "unable to enter into negotiations that will require concessions" and "despite a series of steps taken by Israel, the Palestinian Authority nevertheless continues in a very negative pattern of behavior." Other goodwill gestures included agreeing to start negotiations with the Palestinians on developing the Gaza Marine gas field off the Gaza Strip coast, the signing of an economic accord with the Palestinian Authority to enhance trade and crack down on tax evasion, the decision to transfer NIS 180 million of tax money to the Palestinian Authority so salaries could be paid; and the decision to increase the number of Palestinian construction workers allowed to work in the country by some 5,000.[14]>>>
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