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After reading the three sources, its figure out its a little ambigous the number of Iranians killed, in short: "a close source to Hezbollah claimed 6 others Iranians died but Iran have only confirmed the death of one General" The First Source, Explain this briefly (Aljazeera), the Second Source names the killed; one Iranian and many Hezbollah dead. The Last Source J-Post , uses the same first source. My edit was wrong, theres at least one killed acording to the IRGC and 6 dead Iranians according to other sources. 200.48.214.19 ( talk) 12:43, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
Iran has denied any of its troops have been killed on the 24th of May: https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-denies-any-of-its-troops-killed-in-suspected-israeli-strike-in-syria/
Other claims of casualties in this article are also dubious, the Iranians always burry their soldiers with much fanfare, with pictures of the funerals published online. So far the numbers do not add up. We can conclude that most of these news articles are just speculative.
Marius816 ( talk) 18:17, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
Propose to merge August 2015 Israel鈥揝yria border incident -> Israeli鈥揝yrian ceasefire line incidents during the Syrian Civil War on the basis of WP:NOTABLE and WP:NOTNEWS.
The August 2015 exchange of fire between Israel and Syria is a relatively minor event within the scope of the wider Syrian civil war (few casualties only) and hasn't resulted in any geopolitical implications. A number of events happened in Syria on August 20-21, like Kurdish advance in Hasakah and 4 airstrikes by the US airforce against ISIL, but there are no articles designated for those events. Also - it is not unique in a sequence of Israel-Syrian Arab Republic fire exchanges, which have been sporadically happening since the onset of the Syrian civil war. Finally, the August 2015 incident article is relying on six sources - all from 20 or 21 of August, implying it is a typical news event, with no significant notability. The information itself perhaps has some value, but this paragraph should better be included in the Israeli鈥揝yrian ceasefire line incidents during the Syrian Civil War article. GreyShark ( dibra) 07:37, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
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World papers don't except Syrian claims. Placing it in infobox is undue. 91.193.51.64 ( talk) 06:49, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
If the source claims there are Syrian positions within the Israeli-held territory, it is simply wrong. If there were Syrian positions there, it wouldn't be "occupied". -- Mikrob酶lgeovn ( talk) 18:39, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
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Regarding [ https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Israeli%E2%80%93Syrian_military_collusion_during_the_Syrian_Civil_War&action=history these edits by @ Virtualerian:: shouldn't this have been proposed and discussed on the talk page? (Or was it and I'm just not seeing it?) It makes no sense whatsoever. Collusion means something like "secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy in order to deceive others". The article does not seem to describe any collusion between Israel and Syria, assuming Syria is taken to mean the Syrian government. Rather, it describes clashes. Maybe you mean collisions? What was wrong with "incidents"? The lede now makes absolutely no sense: "several Israeli-Syria military collusion occurred several times"? Collusion can only be singular, as @ Ira Leviton: points out, so if the article was about collusion, it'd have to read something like "several instances of Israeli-Syria military collusion have occurred". But that would appear to be the opposite of what the article body says. BobFromBrockley ( talk) 12:34, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to Israeli鈥揝yrian military incidents during the Syrian Civil War L293D聽( 鈽聽鈥⒙ 鉁) 14:58, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
Israeli鈥揝yrian military collusion during the Syrian Civil War 鈫 Israeli鈥揝yrian_military_conflicts_during_the_Syrian_Civil_War 鈥 The current title makes no sense (see previous talk page section). R'n'B ( call me Russ) 01:43, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
Please stop reverting the edits made by me or other user regarding the article. A lot of entries dont have a single source backing them. Other entries have sources that indicate other information. I麓dont know if all those edits are made by you; but I simply dont care. All info regarding this article must have at least a RS. Mr.User200 ( talk) 01:29, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Attack on Quneitra area which happened on night of 11 June 2018 should be added to the table. 109.60.39.203 ( talk) 22:42, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved as requested per the discussion below. Dekimasu 銈! 17:01, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
Israeli鈥揝yrian military incidents during the Syrian Civil War 鈫 Israeli鈥揝yrian ceasefire line incidents during the Syrian Civil War 鈥 This page was moved to a new title without discussion on 9 June, creating edit warring and several more name moves. However, Current naming changes the scope and may require incidents involving Iran and other forces, as well as possibly merging with Israeli involvement in the Syrian Civil War article. Since there was no discussion to move the article in early June from original title Israeli鈥揝yrian ceasefire line incidents during the Syrian Civil War, I propose to move back in order to restore original meaning for the content. GreyShark ( dibra) 05:12, 25 July 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Anarchyte ( work | talk) 13:25, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
I haven't looked carefully, but this source and specifically the map might be useful for checking the list of incidents in the article, including those with weaker sources. BobFromBrockley ( talk) 10:38, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
It is not a secret anymore that Israel support some opposition forces who are located very close to its border. Israeli logic behind this is to inspect the border, and prevent the arrival of Iranian and Hezbollah forces very close to the border. Fursan al-Joulan is a well known one, and there are several others who are lesser known. This is supported by multiple sources, including major media outlets such as The Intercept, Wall Street Journal, News Deeply, Haaretz and also opposition-affiliated media outlets. -- Virtualerian ( talk) 15:55, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
It is backed up by relaible sources that Israel are supporting terrorist organizatins in Syria, so it can be added to the article. -- Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 15:28, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
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Mr.User200, I checked the numbers in the timeline table twice. I just checked the figures you presented here as well and the summed up numbers simply do not come out as 346鈥415. I would first ask the following... You argue the higher figure is 415, but if only from two strikes higher figures of 300 and 95 were claimed (which is 395 when combined) then the higher total can most definitely not be just 415 when you include all the rest, right? I have rechecked the figures you presented here and there were several discrepancies in comparison to the timeline table. I have corrected the figures on the talk page following the timeline and ran them through Microsoft Excel, as well as a calculator, and I have gotten 551鈥824.
I would also point out that the 16 June 2013 incident, as well as the 21 August 2015 incident, are in need of a lower number 0 estimate. This is because in the first incident SOHR reported 10 deaths by a CAR BOMB, while other opp. sources claimed it was an air-strike. In the second incident SOHR reported 5 combatant deaths by an air-strike, while Syria said the 5 were civilians.
I hope this clears it all up now.
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Israeli鈥揝yrian ceasefire line incidents during the Syrian Civil War 鈫 Israeli鈥揝yrian military incidents during the Syrian Civil War 鈥 A more appropriate name; describes the article's content. Virtualerian ( talk) 11:32, 9 September 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz 馃幏 talk to me | my contributions 22:05, 17 September 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz 馃幏 talk to me | my contributions 20:38, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
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Request to change September 15 2018 incidents date to September 16, since the first reports of the strike emerged at about 2:47AM local time during sept 16 Marjdabi ( talk) 02:57, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
Sources like Times of Israel will use that phrasing for the Golan Heights, however that is not NPOV. Today's rocket for example landed near Metzar, which is not in Israeli territory it is in the occupied Golan. Will be correcting these issues. nableezy - 20:15, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
As EI is depreciated RFC: Electronic Intifada, I would like to remove it. Does that affect content as well (which I don鈥檛 believe), or can we get rid of it? FortunateSons ( talk) 18:11, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
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After reading the three sources, its figure out its a little ambigous the number of Iranians killed, in short: "a close source to Hezbollah claimed 6 others Iranians died but Iran have only confirmed the death of one General" The First Source, Explain this briefly (Aljazeera), the Second Source names the killed; one Iranian and many Hezbollah dead. The Last Source J-Post , uses the same first source. My edit was wrong, theres at least one killed acording to the IRGC and 6 dead Iranians according to other sources. 200.48.214.19 ( talk) 12:43, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
Iran has denied any of its troops have been killed on the 24th of May: https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-denies-any-of-its-troops-killed-in-suspected-israeli-strike-in-syria/
Other claims of casualties in this article are also dubious, the Iranians always burry their soldiers with much fanfare, with pictures of the funerals published online. So far the numbers do not add up. We can conclude that most of these news articles are just speculative.
Marius816 ( talk) 18:17, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
Propose to merge August 2015 Israel鈥揝yria border incident -> Israeli鈥揝yrian ceasefire line incidents during the Syrian Civil War on the basis of WP:NOTABLE and WP:NOTNEWS.
The August 2015 exchange of fire between Israel and Syria is a relatively minor event within the scope of the wider Syrian civil war (few casualties only) and hasn't resulted in any geopolitical implications. A number of events happened in Syria on August 20-21, like Kurdish advance in Hasakah and 4 airstrikes by the US airforce against ISIL, but there are no articles designated for those events. Also - it is not unique in a sequence of Israel-Syrian Arab Republic fire exchanges, which have been sporadically happening since the onset of the Syrian civil war. Finally, the August 2015 incident article is relying on six sources - all from 20 or 21 of August, implying it is a typical news event, with no significant notability. The information itself perhaps has some value, but this paragraph should better be included in the Israeli鈥揝yrian ceasefire line incidents during the Syrian Civil War article. GreyShark ( dibra) 07:37, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
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Soldiers killed by playing with granade - NO.
Soldier killed/injured on the lebanon border - NO. 91.193.51.64 ( talk) 06:46, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
World papers don't except Syrian claims. Placing it in infobox is undue. 91.193.51.64 ( talk) 06:49, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
If the source claims there are Syrian positions within the Israeli-held territory, it is simply wrong. If there were Syrian positions there, it wouldn't be "occupied". -- Mikrob酶lgeovn ( talk) 18:39, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
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The SOHR is not a reliable source, they have an obvious anti-government and anti-Iran bias. This should be mentioned in the article.
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Regarding [ https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Israeli%E2%80%93Syrian_military_collusion_during_the_Syrian_Civil_War&action=history these edits by @ Virtualerian:: shouldn't this have been proposed and discussed on the talk page? (Or was it and I'm just not seeing it?) It makes no sense whatsoever. Collusion means something like "secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy in order to deceive others". The article does not seem to describe any collusion between Israel and Syria, assuming Syria is taken to mean the Syrian government. Rather, it describes clashes. Maybe you mean collisions? What was wrong with "incidents"? The lede now makes absolutely no sense: "several Israeli-Syria military collusion occurred several times"? Collusion can only be singular, as @ Ira Leviton: points out, so if the article was about collusion, it'd have to read something like "several instances of Israeli-Syria military collusion have occurred". But that would appear to be the opposite of what the article body says. BobFromBrockley ( talk) 12:34, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to Israeli鈥揝yrian military incidents during the Syrian Civil War L293D聽( 鈽聽鈥⒙ 鉁) 14:58, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
Israeli鈥揝yrian military collusion during the Syrian Civil War 鈫 Israeli鈥揝yrian_military_conflicts_during_the_Syrian_Civil_War 鈥 The current title makes no sense (see previous talk page section). R'n'B ( call me Russ) 01:43, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
Please stop reverting the edits made by me or other user regarding the article. A lot of entries dont have a single source backing them. Other entries have sources that indicate other information. I麓dont know if all those edits are made by you; but I simply dont care. All info regarding this article must have at least a RS. Mr.User200 ( talk) 01:29, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Attack on Quneitra area which happened on night of 11 June 2018 should be added to the table. 109.60.39.203 ( talk) 22:42, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved as requested per the discussion below. Dekimasu 銈! 17:01, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
Israeli鈥揝yrian military incidents during the Syrian Civil War 鈫 Israeli鈥揝yrian ceasefire line incidents during the Syrian Civil War 鈥 This page was moved to a new title without discussion on 9 June, creating edit warring and several more name moves. However, Current naming changes the scope and may require incidents involving Iran and other forces, as well as possibly merging with Israeli involvement in the Syrian Civil War article. Since there was no discussion to move the article in early June from original title Israeli鈥揝yrian ceasefire line incidents during the Syrian Civil War, I propose to move back in order to restore original meaning for the content. GreyShark ( dibra) 05:12, 25 July 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Anarchyte ( work | talk) 13:25, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
I haven't looked carefully, but this source and specifically the map might be useful for checking the list of incidents in the article, including those with weaker sources. BobFromBrockley ( talk) 10:38, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
It is not a secret anymore that Israel support some opposition forces who are located very close to its border. Israeli logic behind this is to inspect the border, and prevent the arrival of Iranian and Hezbollah forces very close to the border. Fursan al-Joulan is a well known one, and there are several others who are lesser known. This is supported by multiple sources, including major media outlets such as The Intercept, Wall Street Journal, News Deeply, Haaretz and also opposition-affiliated media outlets. -- Virtualerian ( talk) 15:55, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
It is backed up by relaible sources that Israel are supporting terrorist organizatins in Syria, so it can be added to the article. -- Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 15:28, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
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Mr.User200, I checked the numbers in the timeline table twice. I just checked the figures you presented here as well and the summed up numbers simply do not come out as 346鈥415. I would first ask the following... You argue the higher figure is 415, but if only from two strikes higher figures of 300 and 95 were claimed (which is 395 when combined) then the higher total can most definitely not be just 415 when you include all the rest, right? I have rechecked the figures you presented here and there were several discrepancies in comparison to the timeline table. I have corrected the figures on the talk page following the timeline and ran them through Microsoft Excel, as well as a calculator, and I have gotten 551鈥824.
I would also point out that the 16 June 2013 incident, as well as the 21 August 2015 incident, are in need of a lower number 0 estimate. This is because in the first incident SOHR reported 10 deaths by a CAR BOMB, while other opp. sources claimed it was an air-strike. In the second incident SOHR reported 5 combatant deaths by an air-strike, while Syria said the 5 were civilians.
I hope this clears it all up now.
EkoGraf (
talk)
04:19, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
-- Virtualerian ( talk) 16:28, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: NO CONSENSUS while there are no explicit "oppose" !votes, concerns have been raised about this changing the scope of the article or the move necessitating a merge ( non-admin closure) Galobtter ( ping贸 mi贸) 18:18, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
Israeli鈥揝yrian ceasefire line incidents during the Syrian Civil War 鈫 Israeli鈥揝yrian military incidents during the Syrian Civil War 鈥 A more appropriate name; describes the article's content. Virtualerian ( talk) 11:32, 9 September 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz 馃幏 talk to me | my contributions 22:05, 17 September 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz 馃幏 talk to me | my contributions 20:38, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
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Request to change September 15 2018 incidents date to September 16, since the first reports of the strike emerged at about 2:47AM local time during sept 16 Marjdabi ( talk) 02:57, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
Sources like Times of Israel will use that phrasing for the Golan Heights, however that is not NPOV. Today's rocket for example landed near Metzar, which is not in Israeli territory it is in the occupied Golan. Will be correcting these issues. nableezy - 20:15, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
As EI is depreciated RFC: Electronic Intifada, I would like to remove it. Does that affect content as well (which I don鈥檛 believe), or can we get rid of it? FortunateSons ( talk) 18:11, 18 January 2024 (UTC)