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Does the percentage of "Ethnic groups" cover people from "problematic areas" such as Gaza, West bank and Golan Heights? Meanwhile, location map excludes those "problematic areas". However, I hope Israeli census does not exclude Jewish in those areas. We need to correct all, especially location map that give error view. -- Antan O 03:17, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
"Maariv have describe the Christian Arabs sectors as "the most successful in education system"(...)" -- 95.222.63.14 ( talk) 18:18, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
I would like to suggest a change to the description of Israel's land borders in the intro section. It is currently stated as:
It has land borders with Lebanon to the north, Syria to the northeast, Jordan on the east, the Palestinian territories of the West Bank and Gaza Strip[7] to the east and west, respectively, and Egypt to the southwest.
My suggestion is to change the part that says:
"the Palestinian territories of the West Bank and Gaza Strip to the east and west, respectively, ..."
to say:
"the State of Palestine - comprised of the West Bank and Gaza Strip - to the east and west, respectively, ..."
Rather than providing a link to the Wikipedia article for "Palestinian territories", it would be more consistent to link to the Wikipedia article for "State of Palestine".
It may require some small grammatical tweaks, but this reading is much more consistent considering that there is a full article on the State of Palestine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iproofreadwiki ( talk • contribs) 20:16, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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Recently a link was added to the infobox, saying that http://www.israel.org/ is the official website of Israel. That link redirects indeed to the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Still, to say that countries have official websites, sounds strange to me. Opinions, please? Debresser ( talk) 11:03, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
"official_website" is a parameter name in wikicode. It appears in the infobox as "Website", not "Official website" -- Triggerhippie4 ( talk) 23:27, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
In this article it listed Krav Maga as a martial art while practitioners and the founder identify it as a self-defense system. It has no relation to sport nor art as is the case with martial arts. It is purely a method for fighting with priority on surviving and crippling your opponent. It also does not rely on specific techniques as is the case with most martial arts yet trains people to rely on their natural movements in accordance with their instincts in a dangerous situation to perform effective combat maneuvers. So in respect to the origin and the country's relation to the topic, please change Krav Maga to be labeled as a self-defense system and not as a martial art.
"Krav Maga, a martial art developed by Jewish ghetto defenders during the struggle against fascism in Europe, is used by the Israeli security forces and police. Its effectiveness and practical approach to self-defense, have won it widespread admiration and adherence around the world."
On the wikipedia page for Krav Maga, the opening is "Krav Maga (/krɑːv məˈɡɑː/; Hebrew: קְרַב מַגָּע [ˈkʁav maˈɡa], lit. "contact-combat") is a self-defense system developed for the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) that consists of a wide combination of techniques sourced from aikido, judo, boxing and wrestling, along with realistic fight training." I made this account just to fix this, I do not know the proper writing methods for this talk section but please make the necessary edits. Thank you. Soulsearchhk ( talk) 21:25, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
User:Debresser, the article already has information about Israel's ranking in the Global Competitiveness Report. World Competitiveness Yearbook has the same scope, result, is redundant and less notable. Stop adding it back. -- Triggerhippie4 ( talk) 10:48, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
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I've just noticed that almost all of Debresser's edits here are reverts of my edits. -- Triggerhippie4 ( talk) 23:47, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
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Hi. Could an administrator put the following sources next to the sentence "In May 1967, Egypt massed its army near the border with Israel, expelled UN peacekeepers, stationed in the Sinai Peninsula since 1957, and blocked Israel's access to the Red Sea citation needed"? (in the " Early years of the State of Israel" section):
And also this source next to "Israeli tennis champion Shahar Pe'er ranked 11th in the world on 31 January 2011. citation needed":
Thanks-- Yschilov ( talk) 04:30, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
References
Although Eshkol denounced the Egyptians, his response to this development was a model of moderation. His speech on 21 May demanded that Nasser withdraw his forces from Sinai but made no mention of the removal of UNEF from the Straits nor of what Israel would do if they were closed to Israeli shipping. The next day Nasser announced to an astonished world that henceforth the Straits were, indeed, closed to all Israeli ships
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Please update the address of the website of Beit Hatfutsot from http://www.bh.org.il/about-us.aspx to http://www.bh.org.il/ (the current link does re-direct to the new about page, but it is an old and non-existing URL). Also, please change the description "is an interactive museum devoted to the history of Jewish communities around the world" to "is an interactive museum devoted to telling the story of the Jewish people". Thank you very much. 132.66.56.200 ( talk) 05:42, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
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In the administrative divisions, the last sentence says Tel Aviv and Haifa rank as Israel's next most populous cities, with populations of and 278,903, respectively. Obviously there's a number missing, which is 432,892 according to given source. Therefore, the sentence should say Tel Aviv and Haifa rank as Israel's next most populous cities, with populations of 432,892 and 278,903, respectively. Please somebody add the population of Tel Aviv. Thanks.-- Yschilov ( talk) 13:13, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
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Truthfuleditor ( talk) 07:00, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
Israel was an illegally erected state which continues to oppress the Palestinian people native to the region for over 2000 years.
please insert the truth in order to present the full story
Israel's Prime Minister said that Jerusalem is undivided capital of Israel. He, as well as several other MP's of Israel said most of, and sometimes All of West Bank will be part of Israel forever. For example Naftali Bennett said era of Palestinian State is over. [1]. These should be noted in this article.
Also, this article is not neutral when it says Israel's sovereignty over Jerusalem is not internationally recognized. PM Benjamin Netanyahu said he does not care what biased UN says, and similarly, US congress said all of Jerusalem and most of West Bank belongs to Israel, and also disregarded what UN said [2]. So Israel's sovereignty over Jerusalem and West Bank is partly recognized internationally.-- Trepcost ( talk) 03:19, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
I wasn't aware that many presidents said it, But if that's the case, then US recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capital a decade ago, and therefore Israel's sovereignty over West Bank/Jerusalem PARTLY recognized internationally.-- Trepcost ( talk) 17:36, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
PM Netanyahu said already ANNEXED Golan Heights forever part of Israel. Many noted authority, such as senator Ted Cruz, said the Golan Heights is part of Israel's sovereign territory. [5]. At least some of these should be noted in the article.-- Trepcost ( talk) 03:32, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
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In February 2017, Israel passed a law retroactively legalizing about 4,000 settler homes built on privately owned so-called Palestinian land in the West Bank. [6] Golan forever part of Israel as it's inconceivable for anyone with right mind that the Golan Heights will ever be returned anyone. Israeli PM Netanyahu also said this. Finally Donald Trump and Netanyahu, as well as MP's both in Israel and USA, such as Naftali Bennett of Israel, Mike Huckabee, Ted Cuz of USA and the list goes on and on, said Jerusalem is undivided capital of Israel. In summary, Palestine does not exist, and shouldn't be mentioned in this article as a state-- Samoa Rusev ( talk) 20:33, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
In summary, Israel passed law to annex West Bank in February 2017. Reliable source: [9] Since Palestine does not have land, it should be referred to as "virtual state" here. ARTICLE NEEDS TO BE UPDATED-- Samoa Rusev ( talk) 21:16, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
Samoa Rusev needs to stop this immediately, Wikipedia is WP:NOTAFORUM. I strongly encourage established users who know WP policies inside and out to revert policy violations rather than feeding them. Jeppiz ( talk) 22:11, 20 February 2017 (UTC) |
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In the lead there is a part that reads: "....and proclaimed capital is Jerusalem." The statement should instead say "....and constitutional capital is Jerusalem." There should also possibly be a wikilink to the Constitution of Israel with the word "constitutional". It's me again ( talk) 10:33, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
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Under the picture of the occupied lands from the Six days war, you should mention also the return of Gaza strip to a full palestinian control. Further information can be reached under the Article: Israeli disengagement from Gaza. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.172.133.54 ( talk • contribs)
Thank you.
Currently, the paragraph about history in the lead section starts with this:
On 29 November 1947, the United Nations General Assembly adopted a Partition Plan for Mandatory Palestine. This specified borders for new Arab and Jewish states and an area of Jerusalem which was to be administered by the UN under an international regime. The end of the British Mandate for Palestine was set for midnight on 14 May 1948. That day, David Ben-Gurion, the executive head of the Zionist Organization and president of the Jewish Agency for Palestine, declared "the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz Israel, to be known as the State of Israel", which would start to function from the termination of the mandate. The borders of the new state were not specified in the declaration. Neighboring Arab armies invaded the former British mandate on the next day and fought the Israeli forces.
1. It fails to mention that Jews accepted the plan and Arabs rejected it.
2. It describes borders in the plan and mention of Eretz Israel in the Declaration without specific borders. This is WP:CHERRYPICKING to imply that the Declaration contradicts the plan, which is not true because "in Eretz Israel" doesn't mean "in all of Eretz Israel", and declarations of independence, to my knowledge, do not specify borders.
All this creates an image as if the UN set up borders, next year Israel violated it, so Arabs responded with war. I suggest removing all mentions of borders and the UN plan, because not only it's deceiving but overly detailed for the lead anyway (look at other countries). Or, at least, information about initial Arab rejection of the plan should be added. -- Triggerhippie4 ( talk) 08:12, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
On 29 November 1947, the United Nations General Assembly adopted a Partition Plan for Mandatory Palestine which specified borders for new Arab and Jewish states. The end of the British Mandate for Palestine was set for midnight on 14 May 1948. That day, David Ben-Gurion, the executive head of the Zionist Organization and president of the Jewish Agency for Palestine, declared "the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz Israel, to be known as the State of Israel", which would start to function from the termination of the mandate. Neighboring Arab armies invaded the former British mandate on the next day.
On 29 November 1947, the United Nations General Assembly adopted a Partition Plan for Mandatory Palestine which specified borders for new Arab and Jewish states and an internationalized Jerusalem. The end of the British Mandate for Palestine was set for midnight on 14 May 1948. In April, Jewish forces launched an offensive, crossing into the allotted Arab and International territories. As the mandate terminated, David Ben-Gurion, the executive head of the Zionist Organization and president of the Jewish Agency for Palestine, declared "the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz Israel, to be known as the State of Israel", without specifying its borders. Neighboring Arab armies invaded the former British mandate on the next day.
In 1947, the United Nations General Assembly adopted a Partition Plan for Mandatory Palestine recommending the creation of independent Arab and Jewish states. It was accepted by the Jewish Agency for Palestine, and rejected by Arab leaders. At the end of the British Mandate in 1948, David Ben-Gurion, president of the Jewish Agency, declared "the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz Israel, to be known as the State of Israel". Neighboring Arab armies invaded the former British mandate on the next day.
In 1947, the United Nations General Assembly adopted a Partition Plan for Mandatory Palestine recommending the creation of independent Arab and Jewish states and an internationalized Jerusalem. The plan was accepted by the Jewish Agency for Palestine, and rejected by most Arab leaders. At the end of the British Mandate in 1948, the Jewish Agency declared "the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz Israel, to be known as the State of Israel", neighboring Arab armies invaded and took control of the Arab areas, and the Arab–Israeli War was triggered.
In 1947, the United Nations adopted a Partition Plan for Mandatory Palestine recommending the creation of independent Arab and Jewish states and an internationalized Jerusalem. The plan was accepted by the Jewish Agency for Palestine, and rejected by Arab leaders. Next year, the Jewish Agency declared "the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz Israel, to be known as the State of Israel". Israel has since fought several wars with neighboring Arab states, in the course of which it has occupied territories including the West Bank, Golan Heights and the Gaza Strip (still considered occupied after 2005 disengagement).
Not lead-worthy. I suggest changing this:
Israel has since fought several wars with neighboring Arab states, in the course of which it has occupied the West Bank, Sinai Peninsula (1956–57, 1967–82), part of Southern Lebanon (1982–2000), Gaza Strip (1967–2005; still considered occupied after 2005 disengagement) and the Golan Heights.
to this:
Israel has since fought several wars with neighboring Arab states, in the course of which it has occupied territories including the West Bank, Golan Heights and the Gaza Strip (still considered occupied after 2005 disengagement).
-- Triggerhippie4 ( talk) 13:24, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
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Does the percentage of "Ethnic groups" cover people from "problematic areas" such as Gaza, West bank and Golan Heights? Meanwhile, location map excludes those "problematic areas". However, I hope Israeli census does not exclude Jewish in those areas. We need to correct all, especially location map that give error view. -- Antan O 03:17, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
"Maariv have describe the Christian Arabs sectors as "the most successful in education system"(...)" -- 95.222.63.14 ( talk) 18:18, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
I would like to suggest a change to the description of Israel's land borders in the intro section. It is currently stated as:
It has land borders with Lebanon to the north, Syria to the northeast, Jordan on the east, the Palestinian territories of the West Bank and Gaza Strip[7] to the east and west, respectively, and Egypt to the southwest.
My suggestion is to change the part that says:
"the Palestinian territories of the West Bank and Gaza Strip to the east and west, respectively, ..."
to say:
"the State of Palestine - comprised of the West Bank and Gaza Strip - to the east and west, respectively, ..."
Rather than providing a link to the Wikipedia article for "Palestinian territories", it would be more consistent to link to the Wikipedia article for "State of Palestine".
It may require some small grammatical tweaks, but this reading is much more consistent considering that there is a full article on the State of Palestine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iproofreadwiki ( talk • contribs) 20:16, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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Recently a link was added to the infobox, saying that http://www.israel.org/ is the official website of Israel. That link redirects indeed to the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Still, to say that countries have official websites, sounds strange to me. Opinions, please? Debresser ( talk) 11:03, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
"official_website" is a parameter name in wikicode. It appears in the infobox as "Website", not "Official website" -- Triggerhippie4 ( talk) 23:27, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
In this article it listed Krav Maga as a martial art while practitioners and the founder identify it as a self-defense system. It has no relation to sport nor art as is the case with martial arts. It is purely a method for fighting with priority on surviving and crippling your opponent. It also does not rely on specific techniques as is the case with most martial arts yet trains people to rely on their natural movements in accordance with their instincts in a dangerous situation to perform effective combat maneuvers. So in respect to the origin and the country's relation to the topic, please change Krav Maga to be labeled as a self-defense system and not as a martial art.
"Krav Maga, a martial art developed by Jewish ghetto defenders during the struggle against fascism in Europe, is used by the Israeli security forces and police. Its effectiveness and practical approach to self-defense, have won it widespread admiration and adherence around the world."
On the wikipedia page for Krav Maga, the opening is "Krav Maga (/krɑːv məˈɡɑː/; Hebrew: קְרַב מַגָּע [ˈkʁav maˈɡa], lit. "contact-combat") is a self-defense system developed for the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) that consists of a wide combination of techniques sourced from aikido, judo, boxing and wrestling, along with realistic fight training." I made this account just to fix this, I do not know the proper writing methods for this talk section but please make the necessary edits. Thank you. Soulsearchhk ( talk) 21:25, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
User:Debresser, the article already has information about Israel's ranking in the Global Competitiveness Report. World Competitiveness Yearbook has the same scope, result, is redundant and less notable. Stop adding it back. -- Triggerhippie4 ( talk) 10:48, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
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Congratulations, User:Debresser. You are here only once in a while making silly reverts out of spite resulted in editor who actually improve the article can't do it now. -- Triggerhippie4 ( talk) 23:23, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
I've just noticed that almost all of Debresser's edits here are reverts of my edits. -- Triggerhippie4 ( talk) 23:47, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
I am responding here to a request on my talk page from Triggerhippie4 that I lift the indefinite full protection, based on the above comment from Debresser to stop edit warring. The protection level has now been returned to indefinite Extended Confirmed level. — Maile ( talk) 14:14, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Hi. Could an administrator put the following sources next to the sentence "In May 1967, Egypt massed its army near the border with Israel, expelled UN peacekeepers, stationed in the Sinai Peninsula since 1957, and blocked Israel's access to the Red Sea citation needed"? (in the " Early years of the State of Israel" section):
And also this source next to "Israeli tennis champion Shahar Pe'er ranked 11th in the world on 31 January 2011. citation needed":
Thanks-- Yschilov ( talk) 04:30, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
References
Although Eshkol denounced the Egyptians, his response to this development was a model of moderation. His speech on 21 May demanded that Nasser withdraw his forces from Sinai but made no mention of the removal of UNEF from the Straits nor of what Israel would do if they were closed to Israeli shipping. The next day Nasser announced to an astonished world that henceforth the Straits were, indeed, closed to all Israeli ships
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Please update the address of the website of Beit Hatfutsot from http://www.bh.org.il/about-us.aspx to http://www.bh.org.il/ (the current link does re-direct to the new about page, but it is an old and non-existing URL). Also, please change the description "is an interactive museum devoted to the history of Jewish communities around the world" to "is an interactive museum devoted to telling the story of the Jewish people". Thank you very much. 132.66.56.200 ( talk) 05:42, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
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In the administrative divisions, the last sentence says Tel Aviv and Haifa rank as Israel's next most populous cities, with populations of and 278,903, respectively. Obviously there's a number missing, which is 432,892 according to given source. Therefore, the sentence should say Tel Aviv and Haifa rank as Israel's next most populous cities, with populations of 432,892 and 278,903, respectively. Please somebody add the population of Tel Aviv. Thanks.-- Yschilov ( talk) 13:13, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
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Truthfuleditor ( talk) 07:00, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
Israel was an illegally erected state which continues to oppress the Palestinian people native to the region for over 2000 years.
please insert the truth in order to present the full story
Israel's Prime Minister said that Jerusalem is undivided capital of Israel. He, as well as several other MP's of Israel said most of, and sometimes All of West Bank will be part of Israel forever. For example Naftali Bennett said era of Palestinian State is over. [1]. These should be noted in this article.
Also, this article is not neutral when it says Israel's sovereignty over Jerusalem is not internationally recognized. PM Benjamin Netanyahu said he does not care what biased UN says, and similarly, US congress said all of Jerusalem and most of West Bank belongs to Israel, and also disregarded what UN said [2]. So Israel's sovereignty over Jerusalem and West Bank is partly recognized internationally.-- Trepcost ( talk) 03:19, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
I wasn't aware that many presidents said it, But if that's the case, then US recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capital a decade ago, and therefore Israel's sovereignty over West Bank/Jerusalem PARTLY recognized internationally.-- Trepcost ( talk) 17:36, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
PM Netanyahu said already ANNEXED Golan Heights forever part of Israel. Many noted authority, such as senator Ted Cruz, said the Golan Heights is part of Israel's sovereign territory. [5]. At least some of these should be noted in the article.-- Trepcost ( talk) 03:32, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
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In February 2017, Israel passed a law retroactively legalizing about 4,000 settler homes built on privately owned so-called Palestinian land in the West Bank. [6] Golan forever part of Israel as it's inconceivable for anyone with right mind that the Golan Heights will ever be returned anyone. Israeli PM Netanyahu also said this. Finally Donald Trump and Netanyahu, as well as MP's both in Israel and USA, such as Naftali Bennett of Israel, Mike Huckabee, Ted Cuz of USA and the list goes on and on, said Jerusalem is undivided capital of Israel. In summary, Palestine does not exist, and shouldn't be mentioned in this article as a state-- Samoa Rusev ( talk) 20:33, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
In summary, Israel passed law to annex West Bank in February 2017. Reliable source: [9] Since Palestine does not have land, it should be referred to as "virtual state" here. ARTICLE NEEDS TO BE UPDATED-- Samoa Rusev ( talk) 21:16, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
Samoa Rusev needs to stop this immediately, Wikipedia is WP:NOTAFORUM. I strongly encourage established users who know WP policies inside and out to revert policy violations rather than feeding them. Jeppiz ( talk) 22:11, 20 February 2017 (UTC) |
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In the lead there is a part that reads: "....and proclaimed capital is Jerusalem." The statement should instead say "....and constitutional capital is Jerusalem." There should also possibly be a wikilink to the Constitution of Israel with the word "constitutional". It's me again ( talk) 10:33, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
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Under the picture of the occupied lands from the Six days war, you should mention also the return of Gaza strip to a full palestinian control. Further information can be reached under the Article: Israeli disengagement from Gaza. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.172.133.54 ( talk • contribs)
Thank you.
Currently, the paragraph about history in the lead section starts with this:
On 29 November 1947, the United Nations General Assembly adopted a Partition Plan for Mandatory Palestine. This specified borders for new Arab and Jewish states and an area of Jerusalem which was to be administered by the UN under an international regime. The end of the British Mandate for Palestine was set for midnight on 14 May 1948. That day, David Ben-Gurion, the executive head of the Zionist Organization and president of the Jewish Agency for Palestine, declared "the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz Israel, to be known as the State of Israel", which would start to function from the termination of the mandate. The borders of the new state were not specified in the declaration. Neighboring Arab armies invaded the former British mandate on the next day and fought the Israeli forces.
1. It fails to mention that Jews accepted the plan and Arabs rejected it.
2. It describes borders in the plan and mention of Eretz Israel in the Declaration without specific borders. This is WP:CHERRYPICKING to imply that the Declaration contradicts the plan, which is not true because "in Eretz Israel" doesn't mean "in all of Eretz Israel", and declarations of independence, to my knowledge, do not specify borders.
All this creates an image as if the UN set up borders, next year Israel violated it, so Arabs responded with war. I suggest removing all mentions of borders and the UN plan, because not only it's deceiving but overly detailed for the lead anyway (look at other countries). Or, at least, information about initial Arab rejection of the plan should be added. -- Triggerhippie4 ( talk) 08:12, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
On 29 November 1947, the United Nations General Assembly adopted a Partition Plan for Mandatory Palestine which specified borders for new Arab and Jewish states. The end of the British Mandate for Palestine was set for midnight on 14 May 1948. That day, David Ben-Gurion, the executive head of the Zionist Organization and president of the Jewish Agency for Palestine, declared "the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz Israel, to be known as the State of Israel", which would start to function from the termination of the mandate. Neighboring Arab armies invaded the former British mandate on the next day.
On 29 November 1947, the United Nations General Assembly adopted a Partition Plan for Mandatory Palestine which specified borders for new Arab and Jewish states and an internationalized Jerusalem. The end of the British Mandate for Palestine was set for midnight on 14 May 1948. In April, Jewish forces launched an offensive, crossing into the allotted Arab and International territories. As the mandate terminated, David Ben-Gurion, the executive head of the Zionist Organization and president of the Jewish Agency for Palestine, declared "the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz Israel, to be known as the State of Israel", without specifying its borders. Neighboring Arab armies invaded the former British mandate on the next day.
In 1947, the United Nations General Assembly adopted a Partition Plan for Mandatory Palestine recommending the creation of independent Arab and Jewish states. It was accepted by the Jewish Agency for Palestine, and rejected by Arab leaders. At the end of the British Mandate in 1948, David Ben-Gurion, president of the Jewish Agency, declared "the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz Israel, to be known as the State of Israel". Neighboring Arab armies invaded the former British mandate on the next day.
In 1947, the United Nations General Assembly adopted a Partition Plan for Mandatory Palestine recommending the creation of independent Arab and Jewish states and an internationalized Jerusalem. The plan was accepted by the Jewish Agency for Palestine, and rejected by most Arab leaders. At the end of the British Mandate in 1948, the Jewish Agency declared "the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz Israel, to be known as the State of Israel", neighboring Arab armies invaded and took control of the Arab areas, and the Arab–Israeli War was triggered.
In 1947, the United Nations adopted a Partition Plan for Mandatory Palestine recommending the creation of independent Arab and Jewish states and an internationalized Jerusalem. The plan was accepted by the Jewish Agency for Palestine, and rejected by Arab leaders. Next year, the Jewish Agency declared "the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz Israel, to be known as the State of Israel". Israel has since fought several wars with neighboring Arab states, in the course of which it has occupied territories including the West Bank, Golan Heights and the Gaza Strip (still considered occupied after 2005 disengagement).
Not lead-worthy. I suggest changing this:
Israel has since fought several wars with neighboring Arab states, in the course of which it has occupied the West Bank, Sinai Peninsula (1956–57, 1967–82), part of Southern Lebanon (1982–2000), Gaza Strip (1967–2005; still considered occupied after 2005 disengagement) and the Golan Heights.
to this:
Israel has since fought several wars with neighboring Arab states, in the course of which it has occupied territories including the West Bank, Golan Heights and the Gaza Strip (still considered occupied after 2005 disengagement).
-- Triggerhippie4 ( talk) 13:24, 19 March 2017 (UTC)