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Although it seems likely that Isaac is a Kurt Cobain analog, I don't think that he killed himself. The symbol that appears on the Indian guy's computer and Isaac's room was also found at the crime scene where the LAPD officer discovers his powers. Also, Isaac was killed in a similar way to the man at the crime scene--half his head sawed off, with his brains totally missing. I think that Isaac was murdered.
I know, I edited this information into the article, (where was it at the crime scenes, by the way the killer is named "Sellers"). -- Psi edit 02:33, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
He was killed by Sylar, he cut his head open telekinetically & took his power, in episode 2 series 1, this is set in the future, about 5 weeks after the 'normal' story timeline.-- J ( talk) 11:41, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Wait, wait... are we ready to classify Issac as a Superhero? -- DJ Chair 18:20, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
He seems like a neutral character since he only wants to save soimone- Redspiderman
Why has all those painting of the helix symbol in Isaac's apartment five weeks ago not been mentioned? I saw it was earlier, but it seems ot have been deleted. Hydragon 06:13, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Split I suggest that we split this section to List of Isaac Mendez's art work. It might get very large and over come this article after just one season. This list already takes up a large amount of the article after just four episodes. -- Pinkkeith 16:15, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
It seems the consensus favors the splitting of this page, but it obviously never happened. Do you guys think there have been enough paintings to warrant the splitting of
Artwork of Isaac Mendez? We can take screenshots of the paintings and put them into a gallery.
Anticrash
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17:56, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
I tend to think its just plain precognition because in Hiros Peter finished the painting, and wasn't on anything... EnsRedShirt 15:08, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Isaac believes it's heroin-induced only and has not been able to paint without it. He's bound to test the theory, but as far as we know, he's right. Peter is a separate character and he how mimics other people's powers is irrelevant. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 18:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
I editted Isaac's power entry to 'Morphine-induced precognition'. Peter duplicated this power, when he was in the hospital in the second episode. Obviously, the hospital didn't give him heroin, but morphine's a possibility. In addition, heroin breaks down into morphine in the body, so it must be morphine that's doing the trick. 64.247.206.184 18:32, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Someone should go change superman's powers to "Earth's Yellow Sun induced". I mean, its been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that superman is only powered as long as he has stored energy from the sun, so doesn't that mean that his powers only work because of the sun? shouldn't that be more important than just, i dunno, stating he has powers, and what they are? This arguement is stupid. Heroin induced precognition is not a superpower, precognition is a superpower, heroin induced is just a way of accessing the power. Sure, maybe isaac can't see the future without drugs, maybe he never will, but that doesn't mean his superpower is heroin-induced precognition. Also, the people who keep saying "hey, we don't know how peters powers work" we know he copies other peoples super powers and i am yet to see him copy "heroin-induced precognition". Now, its an article about a tv show, so get over your proprietous attitudes. WookMuff 12:55, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Seeing that we've now had two confirmed occasions of Isaac using his powers without heroin, I think it's fair to remove the "heroin-induced" qualifier. 66.25.120.166 03:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Ok guys the revert war has to stop, here is the solution I am offering. For now lets leave at at Heroine induced pre-cognition. I have a strong feeling that in the comming weeks we will learn he doesn't need the heroine but untill that happens lets just leave it as is. -- Argash | talk | contribs 03:14, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Okay, that's it. This article, like any Wikipedia-quality entry, is written NPOV. Insinuations otherwise are not appreciated. The requirement of heroin has been proven, even if not to your satisfaction. As data changing, it happens. Especially when dealing with fiction, one cannot assume everything is set in stone. Comic books, retcons, misdirects, plot twists. Even an encyclopedia article cannot be expected to, say, do what Isaac does. The Spider-Man 3 could not have been expected to list Venom as a confirmed character back in May, 2006. Now, I think I'm done. Something about baseless accusations always seems to sour me on a conversation. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 18:59, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
From the new trailer on NBC's website, it appears to be Isaac that is causing it to bubble, while he is being detained or something. ParalysedBeaver 04:11, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
To clarify, apparently this was a remnant of the unaired version of the pilot where "The Engineer" who could cause his hands to shed radiation boiled a cup of water while handcuffed. They re-used many of these elements for Theodore Sprague. Rihk 02:16, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Uluru is the Pitjantjatjara people's name for the Australian Tourist Attraction Ayer's Rock, a large solitary rock formation in the centre of Australia. Maybe its my inherent Australocentric POV, but a giant rock monster named Uluru just seems to say "Include this". But i won't, because its totally OR and POV. But if anyone could think of a way to like add this in the uluru section just as like trivia, not claiming any connection, that would be awesome. WookMuff 09:47, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
If there is no connection, then it's not notable enough to add, even as trivia. However, if there is a connection, then evidence of that connection will probably turn up in time, so that it can be added. Primogen 14:27, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Cool cool, like i said the only connection i can see (and its totally speculative) is that uluru appears to be a giant rock monster. But yeah, i am interested in seeing if there IS a conncetion, get some aussies in there with the japanese indian and american of it all WookMuff 05:30, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
In Isaac's painting of Hiro and the dinosaur doesn't already come to pass in Godsend? Here are the photos to compare just use this link http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/froggerzero/detail?.dir=b156re2&.dnm=7d64re2.jpg —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.154.79.159 ( talk) 03:56, 24 January 2007 (UTC).
Shouldn't Isaac's painting of Hiro and the dinosar comes to pass in Godsend?
I don't think so, due mostly to the sword appearing to be unsheathed, but thats just my opinion. But yeah, i think that we should wait and see on this front. WookMuff 07:11, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Should it be mentioned somewhere that some of the events Isaac depicts in his paintings/sketches only happen because he drew them? Namely the girl getting hit by the bus, Peter jumping off the roof, the paintings of Peter in Texas, both of Hiro's 9th Wonders and Isaac and Simone embracing on her father's rooftop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AWarriorStill ( talk • contribs) 22:17, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
There's not enough yet to be notable enough for the article, but it could be significant that one of the Group of 12 is named Carlos Mendez. [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pennyforth ( talk • contribs) 11:20, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Anyone know if this character was based on real life psychic painter, David Mandell? Here's some info:
Thoughts? Curt Wilhelm VonSavage ( talk) 14:14, 23 November 2007 (UTC).
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Although it seems likely that Isaac is a Kurt Cobain analog, I don't think that he killed himself. The symbol that appears on the Indian guy's computer and Isaac's room was also found at the crime scene where the LAPD officer discovers his powers. Also, Isaac was killed in a similar way to the man at the crime scene--half his head sawed off, with his brains totally missing. I think that Isaac was murdered.
I know, I edited this information into the article, (where was it at the crime scenes, by the way the killer is named "Sellers"). -- Psi edit 02:33, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
He was killed by Sylar, he cut his head open telekinetically & took his power, in episode 2 series 1, this is set in the future, about 5 weeks after the 'normal' story timeline.-- J ( talk) 11:41, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Wait, wait... are we ready to classify Issac as a Superhero? -- DJ Chair 18:20, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
He seems like a neutral character since he only wants to save soimone- Redspiderman
Why has all those painting of the helix symbol in Isaac's apartment five weeks ago not been mentioned? I saw it was earlier, but it seems ot have been deleted. Hydragon 06:13, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Split I suggest that we split this section to List of Isaac Mendez's art work. It might get very large and over come this article after just one season. This list already takes up a large amount of the article after just four episodes. -- Pinkkeith 16:15, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
It seems the consensus favors the splitting of this page, but it obviously never happened. Do you guys think there have been enough paintings to warrant the splitting of
Artwork of Isaac Mendez? We can take screenshots of the paintings and put them into a gallery.
Anticrash
talk
17:56, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
I tend to think its just plain precognition because in Hiros Peter finished the painting, and wasn't on anything... EnsRedShirt 15:08, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Isaac believes it's heroin-induced only and has not been able to paint without it. He's bound to test the theory, but as far as we know, he's right. Peter is a separate character and he how mimics other people's powers is irrelevant. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 18:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
I editted Isaac's power entry to 'Morphine-induced precognition'. Peter duplicated this power, when he was in the hospital in the second episode. Obviously, the hospital didn't give him heroin, but morphine's a possibility. In addition, heroin breaks down into morphine in the body, so it must be morphine that's doing the trick. 64.247.206.184 18:32, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Someone should go change superman's powers to "Earth's Yellow Sun induced". I mean, its been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that superman is only powered as long as he has stored energy from the sun, so doesn't that mean that his powers only work because of the sun? shouldn't that be more important than just, i dunno, stating he has powers, and what they are? This arguement is stupid. Heroin induced precognition is not a superpower, precognition is a superpower, heroin induced is just a way of accessing the power. Sure, maybe isaac can't see the future without drugs, maybe he never will, but that doesn't mean his superpower is heroin-induced precognition. Also, the people who keep saying "hey, we don't know how peters powers work" we know he copies other peoples super powers and i am yet to see him copy "heroin-induced precognition". Now, its an article about a tv show, so get over your proprietous attitudes. WookMuff 12:55, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Seeing that we've now had two confirmed occasions of Isaac using his powers without heroin, I think it's fair to remove the "heroin-induced" qualifier. 66.25.120.166 03:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Ok guys the revert war has to stop, here is the solution I am offering. For now lets leave at at Heroine induced pre-cognition. I have a strong feeling that in the comming weeks we will learn he doesn't need the heroine but untill that happens lets just leave it as is. -- Argash | talk | contribs 03:14, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Okay, that's it. This article, like any Wikipedia-quality entry, is written NPOV. Insinuations otherwise are not appreciated. The requirement of heroin has been proven, even if not to your satisfaction. As data changing, it happens. Especially when dealing with fiction, one cannot assume everything is set in stone. Comic books, retcons, misdirects, plot twists. Even an encyclopedia article cannot be expected to, say, do what Isaac does. The Spider-Man 3 could not have been expected to list Venom as a confirmed character back in May, 2006. Now, I think I'm done. Something about baseless accusations always seems to sour me on a conversation. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 18:59, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
From the new trailer on NBC's website, it appears to be Isaac that is causing it to bubble, while he is being detained or something. ParalysedBeaver 04:11, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
To clarify, apparently this was a remnant of the unaired version of the pilot where "The Engineer" who could cause his hands to shed radiation boiled a cup of water while handcuffed. They re-used many of these elements for Theodore Sprague. Rihk 02:16, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Uluru is the Pitjantjatjara people's name for the Australian Tourist Attraction Ayer's Rock, a large solitary rock formation in the centre of Australia. Maybe its my inherent Australocentric POV, but a giant rock monster named Uluru just seems to say "Include this". But i won't, because its totally OR and POV. But if anyone could think of a way to like add this in the uluru section just as like trivia, not claiming any connection, that would be awesome. WookMuff 09:47, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
If there is no connection, then it's not notable enough to add, even as trivia. However, if there is a connection, then evidence of that connection will probably turn up in time, so that it can be added. Primogen 14:27, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Cool cool, like i said the only connection i can see (and its totally speculative) is that uluru appears to be a giant rock monster. But yeah, i am interested in seeing if there IS a conncetion, get some aussies in there with the japanese indian and american of it all WookMuff 05:30, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
In Isaac's painting of Hiro and the dinosaur doesn't already come to pass in Godsend? Here are the photos to compare just use this link http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/froggerzero/detail?.dir=b156re2&.dnm=7d64re2.jpg —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.154.79.159 ( talk) 03:56, 24 January 2007 (UTC).
Shouldn't Isaac's painting of Hiro and the dinosar comes to pass in Godsend?
I don't think so, due mostly to the sword appearing to be unsheathed, but thats just my opinion. But yeah, i think that we should wait and see on this front. WookMuff 07:11, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Should it be mentioned somewhere that some of the events Isaac depicts in his paintings/sketches only happen because he drew them? Namely the girl getting hit by the bus, Peter jumping off the roof, the paintings of Peter in Texas, both of Hiro's 9th Wonders and Isaac and Simone embracing on her father's rooftop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AWarriorStill ( talk • contribs) 22:17, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
There's not enough yet to be notable enough for the article, but it could be significant that one of the Group of 12 is named Carlos Mendez. [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pennyforth ( talk • contribs) 11:20, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Anyone know if this character was based on real life psychic painter, David Mandell? Here's some info:
Thoughts? Curt Wilhelm VonSavage ( talk) 14:14, 23 November 2007 (UTC).
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