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I hope there may be someone monitoring this page for General Isaac Gregory ( G. Moore?) I am wondering if he may be the right "Gregory" to fit in with the following entry, which is on the Charles Asgill page? This book [1] has three mentions of "Gregory" - two as "General" and one as "Colonel" - none giving a Christian name. I'm wondering if the author made a mistake with the different ranks, or whether there were two different Gregorys serving in the Continental Army? I do need to know, so very much hope someone will respond? The following does seem to tie in with Isaac Gregory's battle wounds though, and the British erroneously thinking he had died of his wounds.
Captain Asgill is only seventeen years of age, a captain in the first regiment of foot guards, and only son of Sir Charles Asgill, Bart. Possessed of every virtue that can endear him to his family or acquaintance, and in the last campaigns in America, has given sufficient earnest of a spirit and conduct under the different commands, (which have devolved on him by the illness or absence of his senior officers), that would render him an honor to his profession and country. ... so well known to him [General George Washington] by his bravery and humanity in different instances, particularly when the command devolving on him by the illness of his colonel, he took a post from the Americans, commanded by colonel Gregory, who being old and wounded, he supported him himself, with an awful and tender respect most filial, evincing the true greatness of his amiable mind. [1]
Having checked here List of military leaders in the American Revolutionary War it looks as though only one senior officer with the surname "Gregory" served in the Continental Army, Isaac Gregory, so it does look as though he is the "Colonel Gregory" mentioned above. Might Dormskirk and Cordless Larry be available for an opinion? Are my deductions safe enough to put the above on the main article? I've asked the question on the MilHist talk page, but no takers there. Is there anywhere else I should ask? Anne ( talk) 15:29, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
References
Asgill. Gregory.
The fact that Gregory's life was saved by an enemy officer carrying him to a first aid unit within British lines seems entirely appropriate to me to be included in his article. This was not an everyday occurrence. It has been established that Asgill served in South Carolina and that these events were confirmed in a face-to-face discussion which took place between the author, Lamb, and Asgill, in Dublin in 1810. I would like to open a discussion as to whether the following entry should be returned to the article? It could be modified, perhaps, by putting some of the information into a box which shows up when the reference is clicked on (not something I have the expertise to accomplish, unfortunately). The edit in question (now totally deleted) read:
Captain Asgill is only seventeen years of age, a captain in the first regiment of foot guards, and only son of Sir Charles Asgill, Bart. Possessed of every virtue that can endear him to his family or acquaintance, and in the last campaigns in America, has given sufficient earnest of a spirit and conduct under the different commands, (which have devolved on him by the illness or absence of his senior officers), that would render him an honor to his profession and country. ... so well known to him [General George Washington] by his bravery and humanity in different instances, particularly when the command devolving on him by the illness of his colonel, he took a post from the Americans, commanded by colonel Gregory, who being old and wounded, he supported him himself, with an awful and tender respect most filial, evincing the true greatness of his amiable mind. [1]
Lamb’s book was published in 1809, and the following year he met Asgill in person, in Dublin, and heard first-hand about Asgill’s experiences in America. He considered him to be deluded in believing he "would go to heaven for all the good actions he had done." [2] Asgill and Gregory were both serving in South Carolina, as is attested in Asgill’s service records."In the beginning of the Year 1781, went out to South Carolina in America and from there joined the Army under the Command of the Marquis Cornwallis and served in the Campaign, was afterwards at the Siege of York Town in October 1781" [3] Anne ( talk) 10:51, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
References
Asgill. Gregory.
OK, so I think I have prepared it, ready to go. Don Hagist, who wrote the book about Lamb meeting Asgill said that reference to the Hibernian Magazine must be included, so here goes:
Captain Asgill of the 1st Foot Guards rescued Gregory after he had been wounded, as quoted in the Hibernian Magazine of 1782. [1] The following year Lamb met Asgill in person, in Dublin, and heard first-hand about Asgill’s experiences in America. [2] Asgill and Gregory had both served in South Carolina. [3] Anne ( talk) 00:01, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
References
Asgill. Gregory.
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I hope there may be someone monitoring this page for General Isaac Gregory ( G. Moore?) I am wondering if he may be the right "Gregory" to fit in with the following entry, which is on the Charles Asgill page? This book [1] has three mentions of "Gregory" - two as "General" and one as "Colonel" - none giving a Christian name. I'm wondering if the author made a mistake with the different ranks, or whether there were two different Gregorys serving in the Continental Army? I do need to know, so very much hope someone will respond? The following does seem to tie in with Isaac Gregory's battle wounds though, and the British erroneously thinking he had died of his wounds.
Captain Asgill is only seventeen years of age, a captain in the first regiment of foot guards, and only son of Sir Charles Asgill, Bart. Possessed of every virtue that can endear him to his family or acquaintance, and in the last campaigns in America, has given sufficient earnest of a spirit and conduct under the different commands, (which have devolved on him by the illness or absence of his senior officers), that would render him an honor to his profession and country. ... so well known to him [General George Washington] by his bravery and humanity in different instances, particularly when the command devolving on him by the illness of his colonel, he took a post from the Americans, commanded by colonel Gregory, who being old and wounded, he supported him himself, with an awful and tender respect most filial, evincing the true greatness of his amiable mind. [1]
Having checked here List of military leaders in the American Revolutionary War it looks as though only one senior officer with the surname "Gregory" served in the Continental Army, Isaac Gregory, so it does look as though he is the "Colonel Gregory" mentioned above. Might Dormskirk and Cordless Larry be available for an opinion? Are my deductions safe enough to put the above on the main article? I've asked the question on the MilHist talk page, but no takers there. Is there anywhere else I should ask? Anne ( talk) 15:29, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
References
Asgill. Gregory.
The fact that Gregory's life was saved by an enemy officer carrying him to a first aid unit within British lines seems entirely appropriate to me to be included in his article. This was not an everyday occurrence. It has been established that Asgill served in South Carolina and that these events were confirmed in a face-to-face discussion which took place between the author, Lamb, and Asgill, in Dublin in 1810. I would like to open a discussion as to whether the following entry should be returned to the article? It could be modified, perhaps, by putting some of the information into a box which shows up when the reference is clicked on (not something I have the expertise to accomplish, unfortunately). The edit in question (now totally deleted) read:
Captain Asgill is only seventeen years of age, a captain in the first regiment of foot guards, and only son of Sir Charles Asgill, Bart. Possessed of every virtue that can endear him to his family or acquaintance, and in the last campaigns in America, has given sufficient earnest of a spirit and conduct under the different commands, (which have devolved on him by the illness or absence of his senior officers), that would render him an honor to his profession and country. ... so well known to him [General George Washington] by his bravery and humanity in different instances, particularly when the command devolving on him by the illness of his colonel, he took a post from the Americans, commanded by colonel Gregory, who being old and wounded, he supported him himself, with an awful and tender respect most filial, evincing the true greatness of his amiable mind. [1]
Lamb’s book was published in 1809, and the following year he met Asgill in person, in Dublin, and heard first-hand about Asgill’s experiences in America. He considered him to be deluded in believing he "would go to heaven for all the good actions he had done." [2] Asgill and Gregory were both serving in South Carolina, as is attested in Asgill’s service records."In the beginning of the Year 1781, went out to South Carolina in America and from there joined the Army under the Command of the Marquis Cornwallis and served in the Campaign, was afterwards at the Siege of York Town in October 1781" [3] Anne ( talk) 10:51, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
References
Asgill. Gregory.
OK, so I think I have prepared it, ready to go. Don Hagist, who wrote the book about Lamb meeting Asgill said that reference to the Hibernian Magazine must be included, so here goes:
Captain Asgill of the 1st Foot Guards rescued Gregory after he had been wounded, as quoted in the Hibernian Magazine of 1782. [1] The following year Lamb met Asgill in person, in Dublin, and heard first-hand about Asgill’s experiences in America. [2] Asgill and Gregory had both served in South Carolina. [3] Anne ( talk) 00:01, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
References
Asgill. Gregory.