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Rosario Dawson returns for Season 2 as Claire Temple [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.218.189.119 ( talk) 13:15, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
According to this, Daredevil Season 3 and Iron Fist Season 2 will be coming out later this year. ("Netflix has engaged the services of The Dead Lands and 6 Days helmer Toa Fraser to work on episodes for both the third season of Daredevil and the second season of Iron Fist, both of which are scheduled to debut this year.") I didn't know about the Iron Fist release date and wasn't sure if this was a reliable source so I thought I'd post it here. -- 74.132.167.247 ( talk) 16:45, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
Iron fist s02 is coming in this year or not?. Jerin roy ( talk) 20:05, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
As long as we are actually using "Typhoid Mary" for her, I feel like her name should be formatted as "Typhoid Mary" Walker
rather than Mary Walker / Typhoid Mary
. Thought I would bring it up here first before making a mass change though. -
adamstom97 (
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23:04, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
Maybe I was reading too much into this, but when I first saw this article I believed Soule's comments were in response to seeing the IMDb listing that is also mentioned in the article, especially since he apparently didn't hear about it from the production as he does not know how the character is being used. - adamstom97 ( talk) 04:22, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
Was there a particular reason as to why Season 2 only had 10 episodes, in contrast to every other Marvel Netflix series, where each season had 13 episodes? If so, that would definitely warrant an inclusion in the article. -- Alex TW 02:34, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
Sorry for the section title, but I can't think of a better heading when these two editors have been blank-reverting, without a policy-based explanation, two separate edits I made that are otherwise unrelated. Am I supposed to open two separate discussions, one for each of the edits that are being reverted? I guess I can open a discussion and allow them to present content- and/or policy-based arguments in favour of their reverts. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 07:19, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
From
TheWrap source: The key moment in Mary’s life prior to her introduction on “Iron Fist” comes in a location that will be very familiar to fans of the Marvel Cinematic Universe: Sokovia. Sokovia is the homeland of Wanda Maximoff, aka Scarlet Witch, and the location of both the opening fight and final battle in “Avengers: Age of Ultron.”... At some point in the past, Mary Walker was an American soldier whose squad of eight was captured in Sokovia by unknown forces.
These three sentences source in the article: The fictional country of Sokovia that was introduced in the MCU film Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) is referenced in the season as part of Walker's past as an operative in the country.
Please tell me in what world that sentence has not been accurately sourced from those three sentences.
The writing info is definitely useful, considering all of the Marvel Netflix series are related to one another, and this season is not simply the next after Iron Fist season 1, but rather a continuation of the story from The Defenders. In your original edit you said: it's just a synopsis that belongs further up the article.
but you didn't do that. You removed the info completely. So please, if you feel the info would be better included or used elsewhere, please state such. -
Favre1fan93 (
talk)
05:11, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
Huh? So you admit that "the sentence itself is (probably) an objective factual statement that is supported by the source", but you still thought it was appropriate to tag it as [not being supported by the source] and then accuse us of OWNership when we removed the tag?. You clearly read my comment enough to quote it like that, but you either didn't understand it or consciously chose to misinterpret it. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 06:35, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
this is literally the first time you have accused us of doing so throughout this whole ordealTo be clear, I consider this to be the same thing as happened on Agent Carter (season 2) (and said as much here), and essentially the same as the "sharing continuity" mess that I've brought up from time to time. The real problem is that you seem to be unwilling to admit you are wrong, or to learn from your mistakes; lots of editors don't fully "get" the finer points of these policies (I could point you to a few places where I went astray), but it's important to recognize that fact when someone points it out to you, and to try to do better going forward. The Agent Carter thing was almost three years ago now. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 10:27, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
A very mature response there, as per usual.Again, please drop the snark and focus on content.
I have already explained this to you, but I'll say it again: the source does not say "It's not a tie-in", it says there is no direct tie-in with Age of Ultron.How is that any different for my purposes? You are citing it as saying there is a direct tie-in; if you want to summarize what the source actually says rather than simply calling it a tie-in, you should do that. I don't feel comfortable doing that kinda stuff until I've seen the actual show, as I wrote above (or in an edit summary or on Swarm's talkpage or somewhere; I don't remember). Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 22:20, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
that is not how headings workUmm ... do you have a source for that statement? Preferably to a widely-accepted Wikipedia policy? Headings need to accurately reflect the content of the sections they are heading, and that content needs to accurately reflect what is found in the sources; it is unacceptable to use a heading to recontextualize content so that it says or implies something that is not found in a source. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 10:57, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
Hijiri, you continue to present a very narrow-minded definition of "tie-in" and are expecting the content to be literal. "Tie-in" does not only mean literal instances, but can include things such as what we have here, where a fictional country created in this universe appears multiple times in this season. All in all, this is not in incorrect heading to use, and the material has not be misinterpreted to fit some incorrect definition you think we are using. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 18:06, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
... that said, do we really need to have this discussion again? I thought Adam (at least) had agreed to a compromise wording the last time this had been brought up, at least until an RFC can establish a clearer community consensus on the issue -- was I mistaken? Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 12:50, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
E02 reads: ...On the streets, Danny meets a strange newcomer to the city, Mary, and helps her by giving her directions...
But I am seeing E01 and Mary has already appeared at 17:36 and met Danny.
Are there different versions video released, or should the page be edited? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vsrawat ( talk • contribs) 19:36, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
I saw additional E10 Mid credit part, a person supposedly in a jail cell talking to himself about some "justice cannot be found in court of law..." concluding with "I will die as devil, rather than living as Matt Murdock."
Someone could check that out, and add in tha page, clarifying what is meant by that mention of Daredevil in here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vsrawat ( talk • contribs) 20:12, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
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Rosario Dawson returns for Season 2 as Claire Temple [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.218.189.119 ( talk) 13:15, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
According to this, Daredevil Season 3 and Iron Fist Season 2 will be coming out later this year. ("Netflix has engaged the services of The Dead Lands and 6 Days helmer Toa Fraser to work on episodes for both the third season of Daredevil and the second season of Iron Fist, both of which are scheduled to debut this year.") I didn't know about the Iron Fist release date and wasn't sure if this was a reliable source so I thought I'd post it here. -- 74.132.167.247 ( talk) 16:45, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
Iron fist s02 is coming in this year or not?. Jerin roy ( talk) 20:05, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
As long as we are actually using "Typhoid Mary" for her, I feel like her name should be formatted as "Typhoid Mary" Walker
rather than Mary Walker / Typhoid Mary
. Thought I would bring it up here first before making a mass change though. -
adamstom97 (
talk)
23:04, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
Maybe I was reading too much into this, but when I first saw this article I believed Soule's comments were in response to seeing the IMDb listing that is also mentioned in the article, especially since he apparently didn't hear about it from the production as he does not know how the character is being used. - adamstom97 ( talk) 04:22, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
Was there a particular reason as to why Season 2 only had 10 episodes, in contrast to every other Marvel Netflix series, where each season had 13 episodes? If so, that would definitely warrant an inclusion in the article. -- Alex TW 02:34, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
Sorry for the section title, but I can't think of a better heading when these two editors have been blank-reverting, without a policy-based explanation, two separate edits I made that are otherwise unrelated. Am I supposed to open two separate discussions, one for each of the edits that are being reverted? I guess I can open a discussion and allow them to present content- and/or policy-based arguments in favour of their reverts. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 07:19, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
From
TheWrap source: The key moment in Mary’s life prior to her introduction on “Iron Fist” comes in a location that will be very familiar to fans of the Marvel Cinematic Universe: Sokovia. Sokovia is the homeland of Wanda Maximoff, aka Scarlet Witch, and the location of both the opening fight and final battle in “Avengers: Age of Ultron.”... At some point in the past, Mary Walker was an American soldier whose squad of eight was captured in Sokovia by unknown forces.
These three sentences source in the article: The fictional country of Sokovia that was introduced in the MCU film Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) is referenced in the season as part of Walker's past as an operative in the country.
Please tell me in what world that sentence has not been accurately sourced from those three sentences.
The writing info is definitely useful, considering all of the Marvel Netflix series are related to one another, and this season is not simply the next after Iron Fist season 1, but rather a continuation of the story from The Defenders. In your original edit you said: it's just a synopsis that belongs further up the article.
but you didn't do that. You removed the info completely. So please, if you feel the info would be better included or used elsewhere, please state such. -
Favre1fan93 (
talk)
05:11, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
Huh? So you admit that "the sentence itself is (probably) an objective factual statement that is supported by the source", but you still thought it was appropriate to tag it as [not being supported by the source] and then accuse us of OWNership when we removed the tag?. You clearly read my comment enough to quote it like that, but you either didn't understand it or consciously chose to misinterpret it. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 06:35, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
this is literally the first time you have accused us of doing so throughout this whole ordealTo be clear, I consider this to be the same thing as happened on Agent Carter (season 2) (and said as much here), and essentially the same as the "sharing continuity" mess that I've brought up from time to time. The real problem is that you seem to be unwilling to admit you are wrong, or to learn from your mistakes; lots of editors don't fully "get" the finer points of these policies (I could point you to a few places where I went astray), but it's important to recognize that fact when someone points it out to you, and to try to do better going forward. The Agent Carter thing was almost three years ago now. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 10:27, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
A very mature response there, as per usual.Again, please drop the snark and focus on content.
I have already explained this to you, but I'll say it again: the source does not say "It's not a tie-in", it says there is no direct tie-in with Age of Ultron.How is that any different for my purposes? You are citing it as saying there is a direct tie-in; if you want to summarize what the source actually says rather than simply calling it a tie-in, you should do that. I don't feel comfortable doing that kinda stuff until I've seen the actual show, as I wrote above (or in an edit summary or on Swarm's talkpage or somewhere; I don't remember). Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 22:20, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
that is not how headings workUmm ... do you have a source for that statement? Preferably to a widely-accepted Wikipedia policy? Headings need to accurately reflect the content of the sections they are heading, and that content needs to accurately reflect what is found in the sources; it is unacceptable to use a heading to recontextualize content so that it says or implies something that is not found in a source. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 10:57, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
Hijiri, you continue to present a very narrow-minded definition of "tie-in" and are expecting the content to be literal. "Tie-in" does not only mean literal instances, but can include things such as what we have here, where a fictional country created in this universe appears multiple times in this season. All in all, this is not in incorrect heading to use, and the material has not be misinterpreted to fit some incorrect definition you think we are using. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 18:06, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
... that said, do we really need to have this discussion again? I thought Adam (at least) had agreed to a compromise wording the last time this had been brought up, at least until an RFC can establish a clearer community consensus on the issue -- was I mistaken? Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 12:50, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
E02 reads: ...On the streets, Danny meets a strange newcomer to the city, Mary, and helps her by giving her directions...
But I am seeing E01 and Mary has already appeared at 17:36 and met Danny.
Are there different versions video released, or should the page be edited? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vsrawat ( talk • contribs) 19:36, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
I saw additional E10 Mid credit part, a person supposedly in a jail cell talking to himself about some "justice cannot be found in court of law..." concluding with "I will die as devil, rather than living as Matt Murdock."
Someone could check that out, and add in tha page, clarifying what is meant by that mention of Daredevil in here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vsrawat ( talk • contribs) 20:12, 11 January 2022 (UTC)