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Request received to merge articles: Connolly Column into Irish socialist volunteers in the Spanish Civil War; dated: 19:48, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Reasoning: To pick back up the merger discussion almost 13 years later from the above section which got caught up in semantics, I think the wisest thing to do is merge Connolly Column into this article, and perhaps rename this article Irish Republican volunteers in the Spanish Civil War. The reasoning behind this is that all Connolly Column members were fighting on the Republican side, but not every Irish person fighting on the Republican side was in the Connolly Column. That's one way of doing it, it could be done another way. But at any rate, Irish socialist volunteers in the Spanish Civil War and Connolly Column are basically identical articles and a merger of some kind is warranted. CeltBrowne ( talk) 19:41, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Ping prior: Jdorney, Conghaileach, Mia-etol, Spacemarine2552, TheOldJacobite, Fluffy999
The Campaigning section of the article states that training... took place alongside troops from the British Battalion, but that the two groups were not amalgamated. I’ve flagged this as dubious; this contradicts the account from Michael O'Riordan (who ought to know) that the Connollys were amalgamated with the (British) Saklatvala battalion, though a number left to join the (American) Lincoln battalion due to tensions. What is the source of this assertion? Xyl 54 ( talk) 09:38, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
In December 1936 O'Connor enlisted in London as an international volunteer in defence of the Spanish republic in the civil war against the nationalist forces of Francisco Franco. He was among some forty Irish volunteers assigned, in accordance with prevailing policy of organisation along linguistic lines, to the British battalion of the XV (International) Brigade. When at the training camp in Madrigueras tensions arose over the assignment, owing partly to the prominence of Maj. George Nathan – a former Auxiliary RIC or British military intelligence officer, subsequently implicated in the 1921 assassinations of two Limerick Sinn Féin lord mayors, George Clancy (qv) and George O'Callaghan – O'Connor argued passionately against requesting transfer out of the battalion, on the grounds that anti-fascist English workers were allies of Irish workers against British imperialism. With the majority voting for transfer, the entire Irish contingent were attached to the brigade's Abraham Lincoln Battalion of USA volunteers, within which they formed the James Connolly Unit. After Nathan's death in action, O'Connor eulogised him as ‘one of the greatest soldiers . . . in the fight’ (O'Connor, 28).CeltBrowne ( talk) 00:18, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
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Request received to merge articles: Connolly Column into Irish socialist volunteers in the Spanish Civil War; dated: 19:48, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Reasoning: To pick back up the merger discussion almost 13 years later from the above section which got caught up in semantics, I think the wisest thing to do is merge Connolly Column into this article, and perhaps rename this article Irish Republican volunteers in the Spanish Civil War. The reasoning behind this is that all Connolly Column members were fighting on the Republican side, but not every Irish person fighting on the Republican side was in the Connolly Column. That's one way of doing it, it could be done another way. But at any rate, Irish socialist volunteers in the Spanish Civil War and Connolly Column are basically identical articles and a merger of some kind is warranted. CeltBrowne ( talk) 19:41, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Ping prior: Jdorney, Conghaileach, Mia-etol, Spacemarine2552, TheOldJacobite, Fluffy999
The Campaigning section of the article states that training... took place alongside troops from the British Battalion, but that the two groups were not amalgamated. I’ve flagged this as dubious; this contradicts the account from Michael O'Riordan (who ought to know) that the Connollys were amalgamated with the (British) Saklatvala battalion, though a number left to join the (American) Lincoln battalion due to tensions. What is the source of this assertion? Xyl 54 ( talk) 09:38, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
In December 1936 O'Connor enlisted in London as an international volunteer in defence of the Spanish republic in the civil war against the nationalist forces of Francisco Franco. He was among some forty Irish volunteers assigned, in accordance with prevailing policy of organisation along linguistic lines, to the British battalion of the XV (International) Brigade. When at the training camp in Madrigueras tensions arose over the assignment, owing partly to the prominence of Maj. George Nathan – a former Auxiliary RIC or British military intelligence officer, subsequently implicated in the 1921 assassinations of two Limerick Sinn Féin lord mayors, George Clancy (qv) and George O'Callaghan – O'Connor argued passionately against requesting transfer out of the battalion, on the grounds that anti-fascist English workers were allies of Irish workers against British imperialism. With the majority voting for transfer, the entire Irish contingent were attached to the brigade's Abraham Lincoln Battalion of USA volunteers, within which they formed the James Connolly Unit. After Nathan's death in action, O'Connor eulogised him as ‘one of the greatest soldiers . . . in the fight’ (O'Connor, 28).CeltBrowne ( talk) 00:18, 27 July 2022 (UTC)