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It is cited that Cork was founded by Vikings, but was it not a monastic settlement which was founded by St. Finbarr and later overrun by Vikings? I see the provided notation and of course the Vikings instituted a more city like layout, but isn't this an unresolved or rather ambiguous historical issue? - RiverHockey 01:11, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
OK, while I understand the ease of doing individual pics over the collages, we're now back to the problem of five men and only one woman. Per the general consensus last time this came up, I think we need to rectify this. - Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦ ♫ 06:17, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
OK, so Tighe and Morgan - who wrote some largely forgotten novels and poems - are apparently more important than Callan who only invented the induction coil which laid the foundation for the ENTIRE age of electronics. It is still used in every spark plug and camera flash. Moreover:
Yet for these, the Duke of Wellington, Robert Boyle (the FOUNDER OF CHEMISTRY!), James Joyce (considered the world over as one of history's finest writers), Boole and Hamilton (two very significant mathematicians) must make way. Is the purpose of this page to show significant Irish people who excelled in their field, or is it to show that half of Irish people are men and half are women? True balance would show babies and children. EamonnPKeane ( talk) 02:19, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Once again, my hat is off to the person(s) who've been busy on the photos. Good selection, well edited and presented. Pats on the backs all round! Fergananim —Preceding comment was added at 16:34, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
-- MaxPride ( talk) 20:54, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I noticed on the demographics of Ireland that Irish travellers are not considered white/European; they have their own category. I dont knnow much about them so I am just wondering if they are the same as the gypsies of Europe. I read about them on Wikipedia, and it does not suggest that they are gypsies like those in Europe! Any information please! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Galati ( talk • contribs) 18:40, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Can someone please tell me what this is? Google's no help. Doug Weller ( talk) 13:41, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Oppenheimer does not mention an Atlantic chromosome either although he does discuss types of Y chromosomes in arguing that Irish ancestry is Basque, not Celtic, and that is covered in the article. It would be nice to see what Y chromosome Sykes is talking about. I'm puzzled that the only mentions of 'Atlantic chromosome' come from Wikipedia, I shall get his book from the library and see what he says. Doug Weller ( talk) 15:18, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, the highest levels of these chromosomes are in Atlantic Europe and it is the largest "genetic family" in Europe as a whole. Spain and Portugal have the largest percentages and following very closely the British Isles. One of the many surprises of population genetics. Jan.
You, irish, are really cool people. -- 82.209.225.33 ( talk) 17:59, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
I know aren't we, not that I'm being modest or anything!!! hehe!!! (Emmie) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.99.77.2 ( talk) 17:04, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
This article doesn't seem to have made up its mind about whether it is about an ethnicity or a nationality. At first glance, I think it should stick with the nationality side, for several reasons:
-- Allen ( talk) 17:51, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria. I'm specifically going over all of the "Culture and Society" articles. I believe the article currently meets the majority of the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. However, in reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues that need to be addressed. I have made minor corrections and have included several points below that need to be addressed for the article to remain a GA. Please address them within seven days and the article will maintain its GA status. If progress is being made and issues are addressed, the article will remain listed as a Good article. Otherwise, it may be delisted. If improved after it has been delisted, it may be nominated at WP:GAN. If you disagree with any of the issues, leave a comment after the specific issue and I'll be happy to discuss/agree with you. To keep tabs on your progress so far, either strike through the completed tasks or put checks next to them.
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This article covers the topic well and if the above issues are addressed, I believe the article can remain a GA. I will leave the article on hold for seven days, but if progress is being made and an extension is needed (due to the large number of issues), I will be happy to extend the deadline. I will leave messages on the talk pages of the main contributors to the article along with the related WikiProjects so that the workload can be shared. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Happy editing! -- Nehrams2020 ( talk) 04:03, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. I have removed the unsourced statements from the article, which can be readded once sources are found. The list of these statements are the ones in the above "needs inline citations" section. Continue to improve the article making sure all new information is properly sourced and neutral. It would also be beneficial to go through the article and update all of the access dates of the online inline citations and fix any dead links. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. I have updated the article history to reflect this review. Happy editing! -- Nehrams2020 ( talk) 02:56, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
I have removed this list because it doesn't add anything to the article — if readers want to see a list of Irish people, we already have the main article, List of Irish people. Most of the names from the orginal list are now part of the prose of the article, but the remainder are here in case anyone wants to reinsert some back into the article at any point. -- Grimhelm ( talk) 08:35, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
With regard to the Flag of the Republic of Ireland in the infobox of at the top of the article, a footnote makes clear as to the geographical area covered:
"The Republic of Ireland 2006 census reports 3,609,556 people who were born on the island of Ireland. The 2001 UK census, in Northern Ireland, reports 1,573,319 people born on the island of Ireland. The combined total is 5,182,875."
As the area covered includes both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, it is inappropriate to have the flag of either state next to the geographical description "Ireland". To that end, I had changed the flag to one which represented, and still represents, the whole of the island - as that is what the combined figure represents. I have therefore also reverted a revert of my initial edit by User:Windyjarhead.
I would also like to point out that I do not appreciate being goaded nor childishly called names. -- Setanta747 ( talk) 10:53, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
I am hoping some members can take a look at the Francis Bacon page. Bacon was born in Ireland, the child of an Australian father and an Irish mother, all grandparents were English. He was raised in Ireland till age 16 when he ran away to London. He is listed on Wikipedia as a British artist, which I am disputing. My arguements are listed here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Francis_Bacon_(painter)#Evidence_that_Francis_Bacon.E2.80.99s_Nationality_was_Irish —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.114.226.172 ( talk) 16:15, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
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It is cited that Cork was founded by Vikings, but was it not a monastic settlement which was founded by St. Finbarr and later overrun by Vikings? I see the provided notation and of course the Vikings instituted a more city like layout, but isn't this an unresolved or rather ambiguous historical issue? - RiverHockey 01:11, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
OK, while I understand the ease of doing individual pics over the collages, we're now back to the problem of five men and only one woman. Per the general consensus last time this came up, I think we need to rectify this. - Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦ ♫ 06:17, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
OK, so Tighe and Morgan - who wrote some largely forgotten novels and poems - are apparently more important than Callan who only invented the induction coil which laid the foundation for the ENTIRE age of electronics. It is still used in every spark plug and camera flash. Moreover:
Yet for these, the Duke of Wellington, Robert Boyle (the FOUNDER OF CHEMISTRY!), James Joyce (considered the world over as one of history's finest writers), Boole and Hamilton (two very significant mathematicians) must make way. Is the purpose of this page to show significant Irish people who excelled in their field, or is it to show that half of Irish people are men and half are women? True balance would show babies and children. EamonnPKeane ( talk) 02:19, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Once again, my hat is off to the person(s) who've been busy on the photos. Good selection, well edited and presented. Pats on the backs all round! Fergananim —Preceding comment was added at 16:34, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
-- MaxPride ( talk) 20:54, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I noticed on the demographics of Ireland that Irish travellers are not considered white/European; they have their own category. I dont knnow much about them so I am just wondering if they are the same as the gypsies of Europe. I read about them on Wikipedia, and it does not suggest that they are gypsies like those in Europe! Any information please! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Galati ( talk • contribs) 18:40, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Can someone please tell me what this is? Google's no help. Doug Weller ( talk) 13:41, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Oppenheimer does not mention an Atlantic chromosome either although he does discuss types of Y chromosomes in arguing that Irish ancestry is Basque, not Celtic, and that is covered in the article. It would be nice to see what Y chromosome Sykes is talking about. I'm puzzled that the only mentions of 'Atlantic chromosome' come from Wikipedia, I shall get his book from the library and see what he says. Doug Weller ( talk) 15:18, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, the highest levels of these chromosomes are in Atlantic Europe and it is the largest "genetic family" in Europe as a whole. Spain and Portugal have the largest percentages and following very closely the British Isles. One of the many surprises of population genetics. Jan.
You, irish, are really cool people. -- 82.209.225.33 ( talk) 17:59, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
I know aren't we, not that I'm being modest or anything!!! hehe!!! (Emmie) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.99.77.2 ( talk) 17:04, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
This article doesn't seem to have made up its mind about whether it is about an ethnicity or a nationality. At first glance, I think it should stick with the nationality side, for several reasons:
-- Allen ( talk) 17:51, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria. I'm specifically going over all of the "Culture and Society" articles. I believe the article currently meets the majority of the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. However, in reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues that need to be addressed. I have made minor corrections and have included several points below that need to be addressed for the article to remain a GA. Please address them within seven days and the article will maintain its GA status. If progress is being made and issues are addressed, the article will remain listed as a Good article. Otherwise, it may be delisted. If improved after it has been delisted, it may be nominated at WP:GAN. If you disagree with any of the issues, leave a comment after the specific issue and I'll be happy to discuss/agree with you. To keep tabs on your progress so far, either strike through the completed tasks or put checks next to them.
Needs inline citations:
Other issues:
This article covers the topic well and if the above issues are addressed, I believe the article can remain a GA. I will leave the article on hold for seven days, but if progress is being made and an extension is needed (due to the large number of issues), I will be happy to extend the deadline. I will leave messages on the talk pages of the main contributors to the article along with the related WikiProjects so that the workload can be shared. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Happy editing! -- Nehrams2020 ( talk) 04:03, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. I have removed the unsourced statements from the article, which can be readded once sources are found. The list of these statements are the ones in the above "needs inline citations" section. Continue to improve the article making sure all new information is properly sourced and neutral. It would also be beneficial to go through the article and update all of the access dates of the online inline citations and fix any dead links. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. I have updated the article history to reflect this review. Happy editing! -- Nehrams2020 ( talk) 02:56, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
I have removed this list because it doesn't add anything to the article — if readers want to see a list of Irish people, we already have the main article, List of Irish people. Most of the names from the orginal list are now part of the prose of the article, but the remainder are here in case anyone wants to reinsert some back into the article at any point. -- Grimhelm ( talk) 08:35, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
With regard to the Flag of the Republic of Ireland in the infobox of at the top of the article, a footnote makes clear as to the geographical area covered:
"The Republic of Ireland 2006 census reports 3,609,556 people who were born on the island of Ireland. The 2001 UK census, in Northern Ireland, reports 1,573,319 people born on the island of Ireland. The combined total is 5,182,875."
As the area covered includes both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, it is inappropriate to have the flag of either state next to the geographical description "Ireland". To that end, I had changed the flag to one which represented, and still represents, the whole of the island - as that is what the combined figure represents. I have therefore also reverted a revert of my initial edit by User:Windyjarhead.
I would also like to point out that I do not appreciate being goaded nor childishly called names. -- Setanta747 ( talk) 10:53, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
I am hoping some members can take a look at the Francis Bacon page. Bacon was born in Ireland, the child of an Australian father and an Irish mother, all grandparents were English. He was raised in Ireland till age 16 when he ran away to London. He is listed on Wikipedia as a British artist, which I am disputing. My arguements are listed here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Francis_Bacon_(painter)#Evidence_that_Francis_Bacon.E2.80.99s_Nationality_was_Irish —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.114.226.172 ( talk) 16:15, 21 October 2008 (UTC)