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I've made a number of edits intended to make the article easier to follow eg simplify language (remove repetition, superfluous detail), more logical time flow, add Map, check and add references. I don't think they change the sense so I hope they're not controversial.
However, there are two specific statements where the current wording potentially impacts the balance of the article. In part, this is because the standalone quotes provided are selected from a much wider and more balanced discussion, but there are a also couple of unsourced additions.
(1) Historian Nicholas Canny writes, "most insurgents seemed anxious for a resolution of their immediate economic difficulties by seizing the property of any of the settlers. These popular attacks did not usually result in loss of life, nor was it the purpose of the insurgents to kill their victims. They nevertheless were gruesome affairs because they involved face to face confrontations between people who had long known each other. A typical attack involved a group of Irish descending upon a Protestant family and demanding, at knifepoint, that they surrender their moveable goods. Killings usually only occurred where Protestants resisted".
(2) Historian Nicholas Canny suggests that attacks on settlers escalated after a failed rebel assault on Lisnagarvey in November 1641, after which the settlers killed several hundred captured rebels. Canny writes, "the bloody-mindedness of the settlers in taking revenge when they gained the upper hand in battle seems to have made such a deep impression on the insurgents that, as one deponent put it, 'the slaughter of the English' could be dated from this encounter".
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I've made a number of edits intended to make the article easier to follow eg simplify language (remove repetition, superfluous detail), more logical time flow, add Map, check and add references. I don't think they change the sense so I hope they're not controversial.
However, there are two specific statements where the current wording potentially impacts the balance of the article. In part, this is because the standalone quotes provided are selected from a much wider and more balanced discussion, but there are a also couple of unsourced additions.
(1) Historian Nicholas Canny writes, "most insurgents seemed anxious for a resolution of their immediate economic difficulties by seizing the property of any of the settlers. These popular attacks did not usually result in loss of life, nor was it the purpose of the insurgents to kill their victims. They nevertheless were gruesome affairs because they involved face to face confrontations between people who had long known each other. A typical attack involved a group of Irish descending upon a Protestant family and demanding, at knifepoint, that they surrender their moveable goods. Killings usually only occurred where Protestants resisted".
(2) Historian Nicholas Canny suggests that attacks on settlers escalated after a failed rebel assault on Lisnagarvey in November 1641, after which the settlers killed several hundred captured rebels. Canny writes, "the bloody-mindedness of the settlers in taking revenge when they gained the upper hand in battle seems to have made such a deep impression on the insurgents that, as one deponent put it, 'the slaughter of the English' could be dated from this encounter".