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In light of recent revelations and admissions confirming that the Irish Catholic church has been guilty of decades of child abuse, the article should be expanded to explain in detail the position of those who were opposed to Irish Catholics in the United States. John Paul Parks ( talk) 06:19, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
I've reverted three paragraphs that were added recently, reproduced below. Some of this test was removed by a new-ish contributer (though not an 'unregistered' one), on Friday, but he was reverted, apparently because he forgot to use an edit summary, although he did attempt to discuss the additions on the contributor's talk page and was rebuked.
Only reverted italicized portion. Calvert wasn't Irish, he was English.
None of this is sourced, and reads like original research. The phrase "even Catholic Unionists in the present era are considered Irish Catholics" seems extremely POV, especially in light of the slur used on Iamlondon's talk page by the contributor. I hope this explains the reversion appropriately. -- Vary | Talk
Added these sections to help give ideas about things to add to this article. Maybe people will expand on this stuff! -- Jehan60188 ( talk) 16:53, 23 December 2008 (UTC) Wow Wow Wow Geezus. You guys are so dumb except iamlondon. An Irish Catholic is someone who has/is irish(heritage). The Irish have been on their own island nice and happy learning what Patrick told them. There does not have to be name calling you huys are like little girls. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gingerlax20 ( talk • contribs) 22:57, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
Irish Catholic should be deleted as a neologism, ever hear of Irish Protestant, that would be a neologism too. purple ( talk) 00:09, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
I realize that the term "Irish Catholic" has been used for a considerable time to describe persons who are both Irish and Roman Catholic, but I believe that there are many people today who mistakingly believe that "Irish Catholic" is a religion different and separate from " Roman Catholic" (such as " Anglo-Catholic", " Old Catholic", " Eastern Orthodox Catholic", etc., or else is a Autonomous ("sui iuris") Particular Church/Rite, e.g. Greek Catholic, Chaldean Catholic, etc.) which of course is completely erraneous (even though it might have been true to a LIMITED extent during the Middle Ages, before the Irish Church was brought back "into line" by Rome; since that time the Catholicism in Ireland has been one and the same as that of the rest of western Europe). In the vast majority of the cases in modern English, the term " Catholic" means "Roman Catholic". I believe the article should address and clarify this misunderstanding, but I'm gunshy to do it myself, since almost every time I attempt to edit an article it gets reverted. Shanoman ( talk) 16:48, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
I go to a Catholic school and most of us consider ourselves Irish Catholics. Which is like half of the school. The rest is Italian or you could say "Roman" catholic. But we have some good arguments. Between the Irish and the Italians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gingerlax20 ( talk • contribs) 23:41, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
This article needs inline citations, not just a list at the end. Have a look at Ulster Protestants for a textbook example of how to do this. Gob Lofa ( talk) 19:55, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
I really fail to see how the Easter Rising and Irish Civil War are more representative of Catholic-Protestant strife than the Home Rule Crisis, can you explain? Gob Lofa ( talk) 23:08, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
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This statement is misleading:
"Irish Catholics have a large diaspora, which includes more than 36 million Americans."
The 36 million number is somewhat accurate for Irish-Americans (it ranges from 33 million to 40 million), but the majority of them are Protestant, as evidenced here:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1525/rac.2006.16.1.25?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
and elsewhere.
Changes are in order. Jonathan f1 ( talk) 13:47, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
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In light of recent revelations and admissions confirming that the Irish Catholic church has been guilty of decades of child abuse, the article should be expanded to explain in detail the position of those who were opposed to Irish Catholics in the United States. John Paul Parks ( talk) 06:19, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
I've reverted three paragraphs that were added recently, reproduced below. Some of this test was removed by a new-ish contributer (though not an 'unregistered' one), on Friday, but he was reverted, apparently because he forgot to use an edit summary, although he did attempt to discuss the additions on the contributor's talk page and was rebuked.
Only reverted italicized portion. Calvert wasn't Irish, he was English.
None of this is sourced, and reads like original research. The phrase "even Catholic Unionists in the present era are considered Irish Catholics" seems extremely POV, especially in light of the slur used on Iamlondon's talk page by the contributor. I hope this explains the reversion appropriately. -- Vary | Talk
Added these sections to help give ideas about things to add to this article. Maybe people will expand on this stuff! -- Jehan60188 ( talk) 16:53, 23 December 2008 (UTC) Wow Wow Wow Geezus. You guys are so dumb except iamlondon. An Irish Catholic is someone who has/is irish(heritage). The Irish have been on their own island nice and happy learning what Patrick told them. There does not have to be name calling you huys are like little girls. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gingerlax20 ( talk • contribs) 22:57, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
Irish Catholic should be deleted as a neologism, ever hear of Irish Protestant, that would be a neologism too. purple ( talk) 00:09, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
I realize that the term "Irish Catholic" has been used for a considerable time to describe persons who are both Irish and Roman Catholic, but I believe that there are many people today who mistakingly believe that "Irish Catholic" is a religion different and separate from " Roman Catholic" (such as " Anglo-Catholic", " Old Catholic", " Eastern Orthodox Catholic", etc., or else is a Autonomous ("sui iuris") Particular Church/Rite, e.g. Greek Catholic, Chaldean Catholic, etc.) which of course is completely erraneous (even though it might have been true to a LIMITED extent during the Middle Ages, before the Irish Church was brought back "into line" by Rome; since that time the Catholicism in Ireland has been one and the same as that of the rest of western Europe). In the vast majority of the cases in modern English, the term " Catholic" means "Roman Catholic". I believe the article should address and clarify this misunderstanding, but I'm gunshy to do it myself, since almost every time I attempt to edit an article it gets reverted. Shanoman ( talk) 16:48, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
I go to a Catholic school and most of us consider ourselves Irish Catholics. Which is like half of the school. The rest is Italian or you could say "Roman" catholic. But we have some good arguments. Between the Irish and the Italians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gingerlax20 ( talk • contribs) 23:41, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
This article needs inline citations, not just a list at the end. Have a look at Ulster Protestants for a textbook example of how to do this. Gob Lofa ( talk) 19:55, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
I really fail to see how the Easter Rising and Irish Civil War are more representative of Catholic-Protestant strife than the Home Rule Crisis, can you explain? Gob Lofa ( talk) 23:08, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
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This statement is misleading:
"Irish Catholics have a large diaspora, which includes more than 36 million Americans."
The 36 million number is somewhat accurate for Irish-Americans (it ranges from 33 million to 40 million), but the majority of them are Protestant, as evidenced here:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1525/rac.2006.16.1.25?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
and elsewhere.
Changes are in order. Jonathan f1 ( talk) 13:47, 20 October 2018 (UTC)