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I feel that this article is pretty good at the moment, but the thing that bugs me is the timeline. I suggest that we edit the timeline to include more prose, or that we incorporate the timeline into the article. My personal view is that the 'timeline' section lets the article down. Is there any consensus on how to deal with this? I'm not around for another few days, at least, to spend enough time on the subject. I'm comfortable with adding prose and description to the timeline, but not with adjusting the rest of the article accordingly. Is it possible that we make a group effort on the timeline? Blammermouth ( talk) 02:35, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
In the info box Pamela Wright is listed as a spouse. The two were never married, and the surname is a coincidence. She was not involved in the case. I do not think she should be listed as his spouse. Granted they lived together and shared a surname, but I don't see the inclusion of her name as important, or relevant. And by the way spouse redirects to marriage. Blammermouth ( talk) 02:41, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
There are several redirects such as Suffolk Strangler and Ipswich ripper that link to this page. Should they continue to link here, or should be perhaps re-direct them to the Steve Wright biography? I'm not sure really. Million_Moments ( talk) 10:27, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
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Originally, I was going to place this GA on hold, but as I dug deeper into the issue with sourcing, I feel there are far too many issues than can be fixed within a reasonable time. As such, I feel no choice but to fail at this time. When the issues noted below have been addressed, including a copyedit, feel free to renominate.
AnmaFinotera ( talk) 20:18, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Could someone fix the date refs in the appeal section? I can't seem to make it work no matter what I change it to...must be having a mental block. Million_Moments ( talk) 21:12, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
The archive box isn't working does anyone know how to fix it? Million_Moments ( talk) 10:59, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Looks much better except for the overbleed into the next section and that the images start to move away from the information about the person. I originally did the "criss-cross" layout to crudely overcome both problems. This layout is better if the two can be solved. Edmund Patrick ( confer work) 14:38, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
I was wondering if it would be better if we used this serial killer info box: {{Infobox Serial Killer | name= | image= | caption= | birthname= | alias= | birth= | location= | death= | cause= | victims= | country= | states= | beginyear= | endyear= | apprehended= | penalty= }}
rather than the current one in this article. Though you lose info like spouse and parents I feel that for this article this infobox would be better at summarizing it and the other infobox would remain on the actual Steve Wright biographical article. Sound like a plan? Million_Moments ( talk) 12:12, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I took this photo of the memorial garden near to where Paula & Annette were found. It doesn't really fit under any of the current article headings. Blammermouth ( talk) 20:09, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Do we mean replacing the image of Wright? Blammermouth ( talk) 21:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
I put it under 'verdict' in the end, it just seemed best to maintain aesthetic balance as well as being at least slightly relevant. Blammermouth ( talk) 16:04, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
I think we are only a couple of references away (where I have placed {{ fact}} tags) from being able to re-nominate this article for GA but i am really struggling to find references for all this data concerning how many officers were involved and how much CCTV footage they went through. Anyone know of a reference? Or a way we could rewrite it to use a different reference perhaps? Million_Moments ( talk) 17:47, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
I think since this news story suggests that police are not really pursing a link between Lamplugh and Wright we should remove this section of the article and perhaps intergrate a line or two elsewhere, perhaps in the Wright biography section. Million_Moments ( talk) 21:07, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to cut down the Steve Wright section a little as per Wikipedia:Summary style since he has his own article. It also will help prevent this article from getting to long. Somebody has proposed that Steve Wright (serial killer) be merged into this article but I disagree. However with most of that article repeated here you can see why they would propose it. Million_Moments ( talk) 14:41, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
I thought this news was interesting and certainly relavent but feel there is no real place to put it. Should we perhaps create a new "aftermath" section, and is there anything else we could put in it? Million_Moments ( talk) 17:54, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
A comment from a Craig Bradshaw is included, but nothing to say who he is. Since he called for the death penalty in this case perhaps some elucidation of this is needed. I found out elsewhere that he was the brother in law of Paula Clennell. Soarhead77 ( talk) 16:52, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm worried this article is a little heavy on non-free images. Does anyone have an opinion on which ones we could remove? I like having the images in the victim section but I think that they might not actually meet the non-free criteria as they do not significantly increase the readers understanding. Million_Moments ( talk) 17:29, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
I have removed the other non free images. 82.28.16.166 ( talk) 00:58, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Hello, all,
To quote the article: "Anneli Sarah Alderton...aged 24, a mother of one who was also in the early stages of pregnancy...."
However, there is no other mention of pregnancy in the article in its present form. Isn't an amendment to the article in order?
Georgejdorner ( talk) 15:36, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
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I feel that this article is pretty good at the moment, but the thing that bugs me is the timeline. I suggest that we edit the timeline to include more prose, or that we incorporate the timeline into the article. My personal view is that the 'timeline' section lets the article down. Is there any consensus on how to deal with this? I'm not around for another few days, at least, to spend enough time on the subject. I'm comfortable with adding prose and description to the timeline, but not with adjusting the rest of the article accordingly. Is it possible that we make a group effort on the timeline? Blammermouth ( talk) 02:35, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
In the info box Pamela Wright is listed as a spouse. The two were never married, and the surname is a coincidence. She was not involved in the case. I do not think she should be listed as his spouse. Granted they lived together and shared a surname, but I don't see the inclusion of her name as important, or relevant. And by the way spouse redirects to marriage. Blammermouth ( talk) 02:41, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
There are several redirects such as Suffolk Strangler and Ipswich ripper that link to this page. Should they continue to link here, or should be perhaps re-direct them to the Steve Wright biography? I'm not sure really. Million_Moments ( talk) 10:27, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
Originally, I was going to place this GA on hold, but as I dug deeper into the issue with sourcing, I feel there are far too many issues than can be fixed within a reasonable time. As such, I feel no choice but to fail at this time. When the issues noted below have been addressed, including a copyedit, feel free to renominate.
AnmaFinotera ( talk) 20:18, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Could someone fix the date refs in the appeal section? I can't seem to make it work no matter what I change it to...must be having a mental block. Million_Moments ( talk) 21:12, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
The archive box isn't working does anyone know how to fix it? Million_Moments ( talk) 10:59, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Looks much better except for the overbleed into the next section and that the images start to move away from the information about the person. I originally did the "criss-cross" layout to crudely overcome both problems. This layout is better if the two can be solved. Edmund Patrick ( confer work) 14:38, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
I was wondering if it would be better if we used this serial killer info box: {{Infobox Serial Killer | name= | image= | caption= | birthname= | alias= | birth= | location= | death= | cause= | victims= | country= | states= | beginyear= | endyear= | apprehended= | penalty= }}
rather than the current one in this article. Though you lose info like spouse and parents I feel that for this article this infobox would be better at summarizing it and the other infobox would remain on the actual Steve Wright biographical article. Sound like a plan? Million_Moments ( talk) 12:12, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I took this photo of the memorial garden near to where Paula & Annette were found. It doesn't really fit under any of the current article headings. Blammermouth ( talk) 20:09, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Do we mean replacing the image of Wright? Blammermouth ( talk) 21:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
I put it under 'verdict' in the end, it just seemed best to maintain aesthetic balance as well as being at least slightly relevant. Blammermouth ( talk) 16:04, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
I think we are only a couple of references away (where I have placed {{ fact}} tags) from being able to re-nominate this article for GA but i am really struggling to find references for all this data concerning how many officers were involved and how much CCTV footage they went through. Anyone know of a reference? Or a way we could rewrite it to use a different reference perhaps? Million_Moments ( talk) 17:47, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
I think since this news story suggests that police are not really pursing a link between Lamplugh and Wright we should remove this section of the article and perhaps intergrate a line or two elsewhere, perhaps in the Wright biography section. Million_Moments ( talk) 21:07, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to cut down the Steve Wright section a little as per Wikipedia:Summary style since he has his own article. It also will help prevent this article from getting to long. Somebody has proposed that Steve Wright (serial killer) be merged into this article but I disagree. However with most of that article repeated here you can see why they would propose it. Million_Moments ( talk) 14:41, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
I thought this news was interesting and certainly relavent but feel there is no real place to put it. Should we perhaps create a new "aftermath" section, and is there anything else we could put in it? Million_Moments ( talk) 17:54, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
A comment from a Craig Bradshaw is included, but nothing to say who he is. Since he called for the death penalty in this case perhaps some elucidation of this is needed. I found out elsewhere that he was the brother in law of Paula Clennell. Soarhead77 ( talk) 16:52, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm worried this article is a little heavy on non-free images. Does anyone have an opinion on which ones we could remove? I like having the images in the victim section but I think that they might not actually meet the non-free criteria as they do not significantly increase the readers understanding. Million_Moments ( talk) 17:29, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
I have removed the other non free images. 82.28.16.166 ( talk) 00:58, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Hello, all,
To quote the article: "Anneli Sarah Alderton...aged 24, a mother of one who was also in the early stages of pregnancy...."
However, there is no other mention of pregnancy in the article in its present form. Isn't an amendment to the article in order?
Georgejdorner ( talk) 15:36, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
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