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The linked image showing county divisions and county numbers appears to be way out of date. Officially, the state uses a different numbering system where the counties are numbered 1-99 in alpha order. e.g. Dallas County is #25, Polk County is #77. Anyone know why this map and numbering convention is used?
Alex3324 ( talk) 03:07, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Last I heard the official language bill was not passed, ergo Iowa has no official language. Unless I've missed some big news since like 5 years ago when it was the popular US thing to be doing, which I don't think I did, I'm reverting it back to "None" as the official language. If I'm wrong, accept my apologies and put a blurb here. I'd like to see some kind of reference. Cburnett 03:31, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
It would appear I'm wrong: IA Code, Change 1, Section 18. Cburnett 03:46, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
iowa is a potato country
User:BSveen, please provide cites for the old numbers and the new numbers. Also, please explain your objection to the way I reformatted your addition. -- Ben Brockert 17:49, Dec 13, 2004 (UTC)
Kosmin, B. & S. Lachman. One Nation Under God: Religion in Contemporary American Society; Harmony Books: New York; pg. 88-93. Religious Composition of State Populations. Self-identification of religious loyalty, phone survey w/ 113,000 people; by City U. of New York.
I moved the history to History of Iowa because it made Iowa rather long and I thought it deserved it's own article. I think a shortened history of Iowa should be added in its place but I'm not sure what it should include.
Also, the History of Iowa page can now be expanded as it's not limited to a subsection of Iowa.
Cburnett 05:28, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I helped by putting some Animals in the article. -- Relaxation 22:02, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761560308_2/Iowa.html
Hope this helps.
-- Relaxation 22:57, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
There are no Black Bears in Iowa! There may have been a few sightings in the past, but these are generally stray pets. The idea that there is anything even remotely close to a modern wild population of Black Bears in Iowa is absolutely ridiculous.
-- Johnnymv 22:57, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Just wondering if the colors in the list of senators is supposed to indicate party? If so, there are several errors. Identity0 08:34, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
Can someone who follows this article look at the changes today. There appears to be a lot of garbage that needs reverting. Vegaswikian 05:28, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
It seemed odd to me that the East-West distance was listed as the length of Iowa and the North-South as the width. So, I checked Minnesota and Massachusetts articles. They both followed the convention of referring to the 'horizontal' (East-West) as width, and the 'vertical' (North-South) as length. Dunno whether there is coverage of this issue in any Wikipedia style book or the like. Seems that a convention should be followed uniformly for all the states. Publius3 09:03, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
The Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. states format has been updated to include a new Sports section, that covers collegiate sports, amateur sports, and non-team sports (such as hunting and fishing). Please feel free to add this new heading, and supply information about sports in Iowa. Please see South_carolina#Sports_in_South_Carolina as an example. NorCalHistory 13:29, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that the Dubuque Thunderbirds is missing in the Hockey section. Not sure what league they are in, but I know that if the others are included, they should be as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.43.65.245 ( talk) 17:05, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
I would like to remind the Wikipedia Community that after the Inaguration and Oath of Office on Friday, January 12th, 2007, this article and possibly many others will need to be changed in order to reflect Chet Culver as Governor and Patty Judge as Lt. Governor of Iowa. I will try to remember and change that. But if someone reads this after Friday but before they are updated, go for it! 71.214.225.2 04:23, 11 January 2007 (UTC) Kshannon 03:09, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I noticed that under the category of Libraries, that the Cedar Falls Public Library is listed. I am curious as to why it is listed. - Diabolos 06:22, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
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I've temporarily removed the table of famous iowans. For some reason it was displaying after external links and eating into the iowa template and sisterlinks. Try as I might I couldn't figure out what was wrong with it. If any table-savvy editors want to give it a go find my revision in the history. Grey Wanderer ( talk) 20:52, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Vandalism is becoming more presistent and common on Iowa, most edits are now actually vandalism. Have requested temporary semi-protection, pending. This will prevent non-registered users from editing for a little while. For updates, see wp:Requests_for_page_protection Billwhittaker ( talk) 16:57, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Article is now under temporary semi-protection. If rampant vandalism continues after it expires, you can re-register with wp:Requests_for_page_protection. Billwhittaker ( talk) 13:26, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
In the Presidential elections results table there is a slight mistake. According to the table in 1988 45,07% voted for the republican candidate and in the same year over 55% voted for the democratic candidate. Together they make over 100%. The table has no source. Kasper kala ( talk) 17:09, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Someone with an account, please fix the climate table. I can see html code. I would have fixed it myself, but the page is semi-protected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.216.13.101 ( talk) 07:48, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Where does it say that Iowa is the best state ever in the official poll by schneukenpolls.com? I'll add it, but I haven't really edited before so tell me if it's in hte wrong format~-- Bandita Chinchilla ( talk) 21:22, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
She meets all three critera as listed in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Famous_Residents, therefore, I put her back in the list of Famous Iowans. 192.44.136.113 ( talk) 19:50, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Is now allowed - Iowa's Supreme Court has ruled that a ban on same-sex marriages was unconstitutional. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7981893.stm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.164.89.221 ( talk) 16:43, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
To change the subject, the Iowa article is looking much better overall, with better editing and a lot more graphics and sourced citations. A few months ago Iowa was a pretty generic article, but now it is actually something to be proud of, and a worthy introduction to the state. Those of you with copyediting skills should give the article a good going over, and with some cleanup I think Iowa has a chance of being promoted to "good" status. Thanks to everyone who has helped! Now if we can only clean up the embarrassing History of Iowa article... Bill Whittaker ( talk) 13:22, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
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User talk:68.108.28.66#Frank Gotch.)
Ctjf83, as the person who originated adding names to the Notable Persons section for Iowa, I am curious as to the criteria you are using as to who is notable and who is not. Frank Gotch was a world-famous wrestler and international champion in a sport that is significant to Iowa. In the first half of the 20th century, wrestling was as popular as boxing is today. If you are the decider, explain to me why B celebrity actors like Lara Flynn Boyle and Ashton Kutcher remain on the list and someone who was the greatest in his sport is not. Have you read of Gotch's legacy? If you did, you would know how great his popularity was and how great his contributions were to the sport. —Preceding
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Does it really deserve its own section? We don't know if this will last, lets bring the article more in line with Massachusetts/California on the topic. - Schrandit ( talk) 02:41, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) It shouldn't be that hard to source most of the slave, separate but equal, etc. stuff directly to the Varnum v. Brien opinion, pages 17-18. Not a great permanent source, but it should be sufficient for now. Also note that any citations to Varnum will need to be updated (including page numbers) once the opinion is assigned a volume and page number in the regional reporter. -- Philosopher Let us reason together. 09:05, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
(outdent)And now, should it be mentioned in the intro? While Massachusetts does, Connecticut, California and Vermont do not. Owing that this was not the first occurrence of this in the nation and that it was a court ruling I figure it probably doesn't need its own sentence in the into. Thoughts? - Schrandit ( talk) 13:58, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
(outdent)1.Iowa's ruling will affect other states. D.C., for example, will recognize all Iowa marriages. NY appears to be in play now, too.
2.Why do restrictionistas bring up bestiality...they seem far to interested and knowledgeable on the subject for me to be comfortable with. Besides, all things are legal until laws are enacted restricting certain actions. Iowa does have a track record of acknowledging rights before the rest of the nation - read the civil rights section of the Iowa page for examples.
3.I really don't believe I'm being shortsighted, although I do admit to not knowing everything. As I stated before, I have yet to hear an argument for suppressing the rights of others regarding marriage that wasn't fundamentally faith-based. Never. Really. And I've listened to many folks discuss this issue for many years now, and I re-read the
same-sex marriage article after reading your response above.
Disclosure: I'm heterosexual, so this right doesn't directly affect me...then again, as I'm also male, neither do rights for women. Still, we let 'em vote, despite 'traditional' arguments made to try to stop 'em (seems they can even talk in church now, despite Biblical prohibitions).
Cheers! --
averagejoe (
talk) 20:40, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
I was doing some online studying for this subject and came across this section. I was amazed to find that you are debating whether it is important enough to keep. It would be a real shame if this section were to be removed. The landmark ruling by the Iowa Supreme Court has been in the news and had effects across the country and people want to know all of the issues at hand. Do not delete this section, please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.177.5.37 ( talk) 21:46, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
I still believe that it belongs in the lede. I can't imagine how anybody who has lived through the past month can believe that the Iowa decision has not had a significant impact on other states. There is certainly no consensus to remove it. -- Ramsey2006 ( talk) 14:36, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
I think it'd be a good idea to create an article for the Iowa Constitution. I followed the U.S. state constitutions infobox link to Iowa only to find that it just went to the government section of the main article on Iowa. Particularly with the recent same-sex marriage case, more people are going to be interested in knowing about the constitution specifically. Plus, it seems like all the other states have separate articles for their constitutions. Anyone want to take this up? Noble-savage ( talk) 17:16, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Why is there a mention here of the free land offers? Isn't it the case that only Kansas is giving away free land? Someone correct me if am wrong, and if I am right perhaps we should delete the mention of free land offers -- User:kenallen 27 October 2006
Iowa has gained population since 1990. It is not accurate to suggest Iowa is losing population.
While there is no doubt that the population of the state increasingly lives in cities, I would suggest that the chart illustrating rural flight is invalid. This is because it compares the age distribution of Pocahontas County females to the general population of Johnson County. Of course, the population of Johnson County is skewed towards the 18-24 range because of the student population connected with the University of Iowa (over 30,000). A more reasonable comparison would compare the age distribution of the general population in a typical rural county to that of a more typical urban county, such as Polk or Scott. In addition, it would do so over time.
As a consequence, I propose deletion of that chart. Justus R ( talk) 18:00, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
If Polk County is switched in:
If this is better, feel free to change, of if you don't like this at all, go ahead and delete. Bill Whittaker ( talk) 13:11, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
SEE THE NEW THREAD, Proposed Guidelines for Notable Iowans BELOW. Bill Whittaker ( talk) 19:54, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Glad to see the Iowa#Famous Iowans section getting fleshed out, but we should probably discuss some criteria for who gets included, and how. I've been removing non-natives who didn't do anything notable to their career/life while in Iowa (Ronald Reagan, for one); on the other hand Hayden Fry gets in because he's hugely famous for what he did in the state. The Wright Brothers were questionable, but as I recall the Eastern Iowa Airport has some famous memorabilia about their stay here.
I've also been trying to put them in roughly date order, oldest to newest, but some don't have firm dates yet. -- nae'blis (talk) 18:22, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Should Alan_E._Nourse be included in the famous Iowans section? Gweeks 01:13, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Any thoughts on adding Simon_Estes. Born & raised in Centerville, IA. Attended Univ of Iowa. FYI, he's a distinguished opera singer who teaches at the Juilliard School of Music —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.206.215.66 ( talk) 20:03, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
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>≡– 04:27, 25 September 2007 (UTC)So do we have criteria? I noticed a lot of people missing from the list that were on it before Christmas. I'm new to editing here, so I would like some guidance as to what is approaprtiate. Obviously I need to be factual and relativley unbiased for an article like this one. I'm more curious about things like my uncle, Bill Lapham. He played pro football the last time the Eagles won a national championship. Born in Iowa, retired in Iowa. Played pro ball in Minnesota and Philly. Should he be in or out? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Murdochst ( talk • contribs) 15:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
I was looking at the list and we have some big holes. Norman Borlaug, Henry Wallace, Lou Henry Hoover, just to name a few. Any idea what's up? murdochst —Preceding comment was added at 16:04, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Not sure why the response was sent to my talk page rather than here. Here's what I was told
Please do not put Bill Lapham in, because he does not have a wikipedia page. Also, we are most likely going to delete this section all together, or put very strict standards on who is going to be allowed to be listed Ctjf83
So as I understand this, if I make a wikipedia page for Bill Lapham, I can add him to the list of famous Iowans.
Also, there was mention that the list may be removed. As a social studies teacher in Iowa, who teaches an Iowa History course, I find that the list is very helpful. I can't remember everyone from our state who has done recognizable things. The list helps me show my students the role Iowans play or played in the world. So what if it is over 100 people long. I think that a Nobel Laureate, a U.S. Vice-President, and a First Lady should definetly be listed before Ashton Kutcher. murdochst
Done added Mott.
CTJF83
Talk 06:05, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
I was about to add Edna Griffin to the list of famous Iowans a while back, but couldn't without more extensive editing, since she was not born in Iowa. It would be nice to word the list so that influential Iowans who were not born in the state could be added. I see that her name now appears in the article, but still not in the list. -- Ramsey2006 ( talk) 14:22, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
I've restored the James T. Kirk from the Star Trek universe, and revised the birthplace to Riverside, Iowa. See the Riverside article for more info on the connection. Nothing I've seen here specifies 'real' as a criteria, and Kirk is arguably notable. -- averagejoe ( talk) 18:15, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
See the Proposed Guidelines for Notable Iowans thread below. "Notable Iowans section of the Iowa article should be limited to non-fictional people born in Iowa or who achieved their notability while living in Iowa" (Emphasis added). I agree with Alex, for the same reason that "River City" from The Music Man should not be listed as an Iowa town. Bill Whittaker ( talk) 19:54, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
I deleted the new geography button box put on by an anonymous editor. It is rather ugly, takes up a lot of space, and redundant with the info already in the article. Bill Whittaker ( talk) 14:02, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Everyone wants to place their favorite Iowans on the main Iowa article, but this causes the Notable Iowans section to become unwieldy and unreadable. The List of people from Iowa is a better place for most Iowans. This Notable Iowans section of the Iowa article should be limited to non-fictional people born in Iowa or who achieved their notability while living in Iowa, and meet one of the following criteria:
I have pruned back the section and converted it to prose from a list. This is likely to be unpopular, but it seems like everyone wants the list to be shortened, but no one want the onus of deleting names. Bill Whittaker ( talk) 14:48, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
If you want to make a separate article on Fictional people from Iowa, that would be great, but continuing to list Kirk as a notable Iowan is starting to look like vandalism. Bill Whittaker ( talk) 14:06, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Pp. 394-395 of the Iowa Official Register has a list of candidates for this section. They won't all merit inclusion here, but should give some good ideas for people adjusting the list. -- Philosopher Let us reason together. 05:18, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
I have started a drive to get Iowa up to WP:Good Article status. If anyone would like to help, I have started a subpage at User:Ctjf83/Iowa, with ideas/suggestions. Feel free to add/modify any of it. Any help would be greatly appreciated!! :) CTJF83 Talk 03:48, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
I propose deleting the US Highways subsection. It is a tedious enumeration no one will ever read and serves no point. (I have not read all of it, my lids keep closing....) We can leave the shorter Interstate Highways section. Bill Whittaker ( talk) 20:51, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
In case other folks are curious, this is the text in question:
Bill Whittaker ( talk) 18:15, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Heaven forbid if out-of-staters found out that Iowa has a major U.S. highway network beyond the interstate system and might discover a small town or two that doesn't lead to Des Moines. And yes, Bill, people do read the transportation section. You didn't propose anything. You took it upon yourself to take out a section that bored you. Getting a better map that shows all major highways would be an improvement. —Preceding
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{{ Request edit}} I wish to add information to the Iowa article from Frontier Forts of Iowa (University of Iowa Press, 2009), a book I helped create; I know it is a bit weird to ask others to make these edits (since I edit the Iowa page often), but I don’t want to run afoul of COI. For more info, see: User:Billwhittaker/Forts.
This is the info I’d like you to change:
The first known European explorers to document Iowa were Jacques Marquette and Louis Jolliet who traveled the Mississippi River in 1673 documenting several Indian villages on the Iowa side. [2] [3] The area of Iowa was claimed for France and remained a French territory until 1763. When the French, realizing defeat in the French and Indian War, they transferred ownership to its ally, Spain. Spain practiced very loose control over the Iowa region, granting trading licenses to French and British traders, who established trading posts along the Mississippi and Des Moines Rivers. [2] Iowa was part of a territory known as La Louisiane or Louisiana, and European traders were interested in lead and furs obtained by Indians. The Sauk and Meskwaki effectively controlled trade on the Mississippi in the late 18th and early 19th century. Among the early traders on the Mississippi were Julien Dubuque, Robert La Salle, and Paul Marin. [2] Along the Missouri River at least five French and English trading houses were built prior to 1808. [4] In 1800, Napoleon Bonaparte took control of Louisiana from Spain in a treaty. After the 1803 Louisiana Purchase, Iowa was placed under United States control. Much of Iowa was mapped by Zebulon Pike in 1805, [5] but it was not until the construction of Fort Madison in 1808 that the U.S. established tenuous military control over the region. [6]
Fort Madison was built to control trade and establish U.S. dominance over the Upper Mississippi, but it was poorly designed and disliked by the Sauk and Ho-Chunk, many of whom allied with the British, who had not abandoned claims to the territory. [6] [7] Fort Madison was defeated by British-supported Indians in 1813 during the War of 1812, and Fort Shelby in Prairie du Chien, Wisconsin, also fell to the British. Black Hawk took part in the siege of Fort Madison. [8] [9] After the war, the U.S. reestablished control of the region through the construction of Fort Armstrong, Fort Snelling in Minnesota, and Fort Atkinson (Nebraska) in Nebraska. [10]
Yes, JD lived in Iowa for a few years, he ran a mill along the Yellow River in Allamakee County; it has been mentioned in several histories eg: http://www.sharylscabin.com/Allamakee/history4/yellowriver_41.htm I didn't put a citation in the article, since none of the other notable Iowans had citations. Archaeologists from UW-Lacross found the mill location a few years ago.... Bill Whittaker ( talk) 21:25, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
The article currently claims that Iowa proportionally contributed more personnel to the Union than any other state. I have heard from several sources (in person, so I can't cite anything concrete) that this statistic might be inflated. Iowa was the westernmost state that supported the Union (having been admitted in 1846). Settlers that had been in the west (Nebraska, Colorado, and Dakota Territories) traveled back to fight. The first Union state they encountered was Iowa, so they signed on to units associated with that state. I have no civil war academic credentials, so if somebody who knows about this could dig up evidence for or against, that would be swell. 72.225.131.167 ( talk) 00:34, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
This is laid out in the French and India War article and in that article's links/sources. I don't see what the objection to that phrases' inclusion is. - Schrandit ( talk) 13:16, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
How popular are the 55 "Notable Iowans"? Here is the number of visits to each person's page in March, from Grok, ordered descending:
MEAN SCORE: 25493.49 (Andy Williams and higher)
Note: Slipknot should not have been included, since it is not a person, just like the Iowa State Fair and Iowa caucus are not persons.
I propose we delete all entertainers, writers, and athletes who have a score of less than 5,000, and take a hard look at all others less than 2500. If someone can't garner 2500 visits, they really need to win a Nobel to be included, I think. Perhaps I am being too draconian again... Thoughts? Bill Whittaker ( talk) 18:18, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
I propose we get rid of the nav box at the bottom of the article just under "Realted Information". I find it hard to believe there are many folks who use these things to get around WP; IMHO it is pretty ugly as well... Bill Whittaker ( talk) 16:00, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Bill Whittaker ( talk) 17:49, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
While I appreciate Hawkeye-Cyclone rivarly, search of google for "Cyclone state" came up with no reliable refs to the term being used for the state as a whole, just a passing reference to a billboard put up by a Cyclone fan. A few blog/facebook entries from Cyclone fans, but nothing from newspapers, books, etc. to indicate this is a widespread nickname. May have been put up because of the Saturday UI-ISU game. Can anyone find a better ref? Bill Whittaker ( talk) 17:31, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
The Cities section (changed, inexplicably, from "Attractions") has become a spammy dumping ground for info about cities that probably belong in each city's article. Anyone care to pare it back? Perhaps call it "Attractions" again, since it has a "Statewide" section? Bill Whittaker ( talk) 17:22, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
Changed title back to "Attractions" I removed references to all “attractions” that lack an article page (but made 2 redlinks to things that should have articles). I removed some things that are not actually attractions, such as the Ames Straw Poll (no one can visit a straw poll). Got rid of a lot of puffery and low-level attractions such as the Englert Theater (nothing personal, I love the Englert, but it is not worthy of being on the Iowa page.) Removed a lot of wordage explaining why things are interesting; if someone want to know why, they can just look on those pages. I agree with Al H., need an expanded Culture of Iowa page. I'm not opposed to renaming "Attractions" to "Culture" Bill Whittaker ( talk) 02:19, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
I have a concern about the use of the word "boasts" in this section. Is it not a "peacock" term? I almost made changes but as I am fairly new at Wiki editing I am looking for a more experienced editor to make the call. RifeIdeas Talk 05:11, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
I came on this page hoping to know what U.S. states pile up vertically below Minnesota and Iowa. I haven't been able to find a map of the U.S.A. with the names of the different states. So I hopped from article to article... until I came on this one and realized that, contrary to what was on previous articles and allowed me to know where all western states from Washington+Oregon+California to the Dakotas-Texas line were, there's no indication of the neighboring states of Iowa. I think borders are relevant and even necessary in an article about a state or country. Amenel ( talk) 10:08, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
I couldn't help noticing that this article made no mention of the famous "Iowa Corn Song" ("Io-way, Io-way, that's where the tall corn grows!"), a stirring musical work inextricably associated with the honest, hardworking people of this prototypical Midwestern state. Needless to say, but I'll say it anyway, this is a disappointment. I believe this article should not only mention the "Iowa Corn Song", but should link to a dedicated "Iowa Corn Song" article. Had I the time to consider writing such an article, I'd certainly do same---if only to honor the stoic image of these modern-day pioneers as they take a stand for freedom, decency, and other traditional Midwestern values, as well as, naturally, corn of unimpeachable quality. SomeAvailableName ( talk) 22:19, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
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The linked image showing county divisions and county numbers appears to be way out of date. Officially, the state uses a different numbering system where the counties are numbered 1-99 in alpha order. e.g. Dallas County is #25, Polk County is #77. Anyone know why this map and numbering convention is used?
Alex3324 ( talk) 03:07, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Last I heard the official language bill was not passed, ergo Iowa has no official language. Unless I've missed some big news since like 5 years ago when it was the popular US thing to be doing, which I don't think I did, I'm reverting it back to "None" as the official language. If I'm wrong, accept my apologies and put a blurb here. I'd like to see some kind of reference. Cburnett 03:31, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
It would appear I'm wrong: IA Code, Change 1, Section 18. Cburnett 03:46, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
iowa is a potato country
User:BSveen, please provide cites for the old numbers and the new numbers. Also, please explain your objection to the way I reformatted your addition. -- Ben Brockert 17:49, Dec 13, 2004 (UTC)
Kosmin, B. & S. Lachman. One Nation Under God: Religion in Contemporary American Society; Harmony Books: New York; pg. 88-93. Religious Composition of State Populations. Self-identification of religious loyalty, phone survey w/ 113,000 people; by City U. of New York.
I moved the history to History of Iowa because it made Iowa rather long and I thought it deserved it's own article. I think a shortened history of Iowa should be added in its place but I'm not sure what it should include.
Also, the History of Iowa page can now be expanded as it's not limited to a subsection of Iowa.
Cburnett 05:28, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I helped by putting some Animals in the article. -- Relaxation 22:02, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761560308_2/Iowa.html
Hope this helps.
-- Relaxation 22:57, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
There are no Black Bears in Iowa! There may have been a few sightings in the past, but these are generally stray pets. The idea that there is anything even remotely close to a modern wild population of Black Bears in Iowa is absolutely ridiculous.
-- Johnnymv 22:57, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Just wondering if the colors in the list of senators is supposed to indicate party? If so, there are several errors. Identity0 08:34, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
Can someone who follows this article look at the changes today. There appears to be a lot of garbage that needs reverting. Vegaswikian 05:28, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
It seemed odd to me that the East-West distance was listed as the length of Iowa and the North-South as the width. So, I checked Minnesota and Massachusetts articles. They both followed the convention of referring to the 'horizontal' (East-West) as width, and the 'vertical' (North-South) as length. Dunno whether there is coverage of this issue in any Wikipedia style book or the like. Seems that a convention should be followed uniformly for all the states. Publius3 09:03, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
The Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. states format has been updated to include a new Sports section, that covers collegiate sports, amateur sports, and non-team sports (such as hunting and fishing). Please feel free to add this new heading, and supply information about sports in Iowa. Please see South_carolina#Sports_in_South_Carolina as an example. NorCalHistory 13:29, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that the Dubuque Thunderbirds is missing in the Hockey section. Not sure what league they are in, but I know that if the others are included, they should be as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.43.65.245 ( talk) 17:05, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
I would like to remind the Wikipedia Community that after the Inaguration and Oath of Office on Friday, January 12th, 2007, this article and possibly many others will need to be changed in order to reflect Chet Culver as Governor and Patty Judge as Lt. Governor of Iowa. I will try to remember and change that. But if someone reads this after Friday but before they are updated, go for it! 71.214.225.2 04:23, 11 January 2007 (UTC) Kshannon 03:09, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I noticed that under the category of Libraries, that the Cedar Falls Public Library is listed. I am curious as to why it is listed. - Diabolos 06:22, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Starting with the landmark court case of Alvarez vs. Owen in 1931, Hispanic heritage is considered separate from race. Hispanic individuals can be White, Black, American Indian, Asian, or of any other race. It is important that in articles such as this, we not misuse census data to racialize Hispanic heritage. -- Node ( talk) 17:43, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
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I've temporarily removed the table of famous iowans. For some reason it was displaying after external links and eating into the iowa template and sisterlinks. Try as I might I couldn't figure out what was wrong with it. If any table-savvy editors want to give it a go find my revision in the history. Grey Wanderer ( talk) 20:52, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Vandalism is becoming more presistent and common on Iowa, most edits are now actually vandalism. Have requested temporary semi-protection, pending. This will prevent non-registered users from editing for a little while. For updates, see wp:Requests_for_page_protection Billwhittaker ( talk) 16:57, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Article is now under temporary semi-protection. If rampant vandalism continues after it expires, you can re-register with wp:Requests_for_page_protection. Billwhittaker ( talk) 13:26, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
In the Presidential elections results table there is a slight mistake. According to the table in 1988 45,07% voted for the republican candidate and in the same year over 55% voted for the democratic candidate. Together they make over 100%. The table has no source. Kasper kala ( talk) 17:09, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Someone with an account, please fix the climate table. I can see html code. I would have fixed it myself, but the page is semi-protected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.216.13.101 ( talk) 07:48, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Where does it say that Iowa is the best state ever in the official poll by schneukenpolls.com? I'll add it, but I haven't really edited before so tell me if it's in hte wrong format~-- Bandita Chinchilla ( talk) 21:22, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
She meets all three critera as listed in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Famous_Residents, therefore, I put her back in the list of Famous Iowans. 192.44.136.113 ( talk) 19:50, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Is now allowed - Iowa's Supreme Court has ruled that a ban on same-sex marriages was unconstitutional. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7981893.stm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.164.89.221 ( talk) 16:43, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
To change the subject, the Iowa article is looking much better overall, with better editing and a lot more graphics and sourced citations. A few months ago Iowa was a pretty generic article, but now it is actually something to be proud of, and a worthy introduction to the state. Those of you with copyediting skills should give the article a good going over, and with some cleanup I think Iowa has a chance of being promoted to "good" status. Thanks to everyone who has helped! Now if we can only clean up the embarrassing History of Iowa article... Bill Whittaker ( talk) 13:22, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
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User talk:68.108.28.66#Frank Gotch.)
Ctjf83, as the person who originated adding names to the Notable Persons section for Iowa, I am curious as to the criteria you are using as to who is notable and who is not. Frank Gotch was a world-famous wrestler and international champion in a sport that is significant to Iowa. In the first half of the 20th century, wrestling was as popular as boxing is today. If you are the decider, explain to me why B celebrity actors like Lara Flynn Boyle and Ashton Kutcher remain on the list and someone who was the greatest in his sport is not. Have you read of Gotch's legacy? If you did, you would know how great his popularity was and how great his contributions were to the sport. —Preceding
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Does it really deserve its own section? We don't know if this will last, lets bring the article more in line with Massachusetts/California on the topic. - Schrandit ( talk) 02:41, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) It shouldn't be that hard to source most of the slave, separate but equal, etc. stuff directly to the Varnum v. Brien opinion, pages 17-18. Not a great permanent source, but it should be sufficient for now. Also note that any citations to Varnum will need to be updated (including page numbers) once the opinion is assigned a volume and page number in the regional reporter. -- Philosopher Let us reason together. 09:05, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
(outdent)And now, should it be mentioned in the intro? While Massachusetts does, Connecticut, California and Vermont do not. Owing that this was not the first occurrence of this in the nation and that it was a court ruling I figure it probably doesn't need its own sentence in the into. Thoughts? - Schrandit ( talk) 13:58, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
(outdent)1.Iowa's ruling will affect other states. D.C., for example, will recognize all Iowa marriages. NY appears to be in play now, too.
2.Why do restrictionistas bring up bestiality...they seem far to interested and knowledgeable on the subject for me to be comfortable with. Besides, all things are legal until laws are enacted restricting certain actions. Iowa does have a track record of acknowledging rights before the rest of the nation - read the civil rights section of the Iowa page for examples.
3.I really don't believe I'm being shortsighted, although I do admit to not knowing everything. As I stated before, I have yet to hear an argument for suppressing the rights of others regarding marriage that wasn't fundamentally faith-based. Never. Really. And I've listened to many folks discuss this issue for many years now, and I re-read the
same-sex marriage article after reading your response above.
Disclosure: I'm heterosexual, so this right doesn't directly affect me...then again, as I'm also male, neither do rights for women. Still, we let 'em vote, despite 'traditional' arguments made to try to stop 'em (seems they can even talk in church now, despite Biblical prohibitions).
Cheers! --
averagejoe (
talk) 20:40, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
I was doing some online studying for this subject and came across this section. I was amazed to find that you are debating whether it is important enough to keep. It would be a real shame if this section were to be removed. The landmark ruling by the Iowa Supreme Court has been in the news and had effects across the country and people want to know all of the issues at hand. Do not delete this section, please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.177.5.37 ( talk) 21:46, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
I still believe that it belongs in the lede. I can't imagine how anybody who has lived through the past month can believe that the Iowa decision has not had a significant impact on other states. There is certainly no consensus to remove it. -- Ramsey2006 ( talk) 14:36, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
I think it'd be a good idea to create an article for the Iowa Constitution. I followed the U.S. state constitutions infobox link to Iowa only to find that it just went to the government section of the main article on Iowa. Particularly with the recent same-sex marriage case, more people are going to be interested in knowing about the constitution specifically. Plus, it seems like all the other states have separate articles for their constitutions. Anyone want to take this up? Noble-savage ( talk) 17:16, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Why is there a mention here of the free land offers? Isn't it the case that only Kansas is giving away free land? Someone correct me if am wrong, and if I am right perhaps we should delete the mention of free land offers -- User:kenallen 27 October 2006
Iowa has gained population since 1990. It is not accurate to suggest Iowa is losing population.
While there is no doubt that the population of the state increasingly lives in cities, I would suggest that the chart illustrating rural flight is invalid. This is because it compares the age distribution of Pocahontas County females to the general population of Johnson County. Of course, the population of Johnson County is skewed towards the 18-24 range because of the student population connected with the University of Iowa (over 30,000). A more reasonable comparison would compare the age distribution of the general population in a typical rural county to that of a more typical urban county, such as Polk or Scott. In addition, it would do so over time.
As a consequence, I propose deletion of that chart. Justus R ( talk) 18:00, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
If Polk County is switched in:
If this is better, feel free to change, of if you don't like this at all, go ahead and delete. Bill Whittaker ( talk) 13:11, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
SEE THE NEW THREAD, Proposed Guidelines for Notable Iowans BELOW. Bill Whittaker ( talk) 19:54, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Glad to see the Iowa#Famous Iowans section getting fleshed out, but we should probably discuss some criteria for who gets included, and how. I've been removing non-natives who didn't do anything notable to their career/life while in Iowa (Ronald Reagan, for one); on the other hand Hayden Fry gets in because he's hugely famous for what he did in the state. The Wright Brothers were questionable, but as I recall the Eastern Iowa Airport has some famous memorabilia about their stay here.
I've also been trying to put them in roughly date order, oldest to newest, but some don't have firm dates yet. -- nae'blis (talk) 18:22, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Should Alan_E._Nourse be included in the famous Iowans section? Gweeks 01:13, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Any thoughts on adding Simon_Estes. Born & raised in Centerville, IA. Attended Univ of Iowa. FYI, he's a distinguished opera singer who teaches at the Juilliard School of Music —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.206.215.66 ( talk) 20:03, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
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>≡– 04:27, 25 September 2007 (UTC)So do we have criteria? I noticed a lot of people missing from the list that were on it before Christmas. I'm new to editing here, so I would like some guidance as to what is approaprtiate. Obviously I need to be factual and relativley unbiased for an article like this one. I'm more curious about things like my uncle, Bill Lapham. He played pro football the last time the Eagles won a national championship. Born in Iowa, retired in Iowa. Played pro ball in Minnesota and Philly. Should he be in or out? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Murdochst ( talk • contribs) 15:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
I was looking at the list and we have some big holes. Norman Borlaug, Henry Wallace, Lou Henry Hoover, just to name a few. Any idea what's up? murdochst —Preceding comment was added at 16:04, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Not sure why the response was sent to my talk page rather than here. Here's what I was told
Please do not put Bill Lapham in, because he does not have a wikipedia page. Also, we are most likely going to delete this section all together, or put very strict standards on who is going to be allowed to be listed Ctjf83
So as I understand this, if I make a wikipedia page for Bill Lapham, I can add him to the list of famous Iowans.
Also, there was mention that the list may be removed. As a social studies teacher in Iowa, who teaches an Iowa History course, I find that the list is very helpful. I can't remember everyone from our state who has done recognizable things. The list helps me show my students the role Iowans play or played in the world. So what if it is over 100 people long. I think that a Nobel Laureate, a U.S. Vice-President, and a First Lady should definetly be listed before Ashton Kutcher. murdochst
Done added Mott.
CTJF83
Talk 06:05, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
I was about to add Edna Griffin to the list of famous Iowans a while back, but couldn't without more extensive editing, since she was not born in Iowa. It would be nice to word the list so that influential Iowans who were not born in the state could be added. I see that her name now appears in the article, but still not in the list. -- Ramsey2006 ( talk) 14:22, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
I've restored the James T. Kirk from the Star Trek universe, and revised the birthplace to Riverside, Iowa. See the Riverside article for more info on the connection. Nothing I've seen here specifies 'real' as a criteria, and Kirk is arguably notable. -- averagejoe ( talk) 18:15, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
See the Proposed Guidelines for Notable Iowans thread below. "Notable Iowans section of the Iowa article should be limited to non-fictional people born in Iowa or who achieved their notability while living in Iowa" (Emphasis added). I agree with Alex, for the same reason that "River City" from The Music Man should not be listed as an Iowa town. Bill Whittaker ( talk) 19:54, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
I deleted the new geography button box put on by an anonymous editor. It is rather ugly, takes up a lot of space, and redundant with the info already in the article. Bill Whittaker ( talk) 14:02, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Everyone wants to place their favorite Iowans on the main Iowa article, but this causes the Notable Iowans section to become unwieldy and unreadable. The List of people from Iowa is a better place for most Iowans. This Notable Iowans section of the Iowa article should be limited to non-fictional people born in Iowa or who achieved their notability while living in Iowa, and meet one of the following criteria:
I have pruned back the section and converted it to prose from a list. This is likely to be unpopular, but it seems like everyone wants the list to be shortened, but no one want the onus of deleting names. Bill Whittaker ( talk) 14:48, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
If you want to make a separate article on Fictional people from Iowa, that would be great, but continuing to list Kirk as a notable Iowan is starting to look like vandalism. Bill Whittaker ( talk) 14:06, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Pp. 394-395 of the Iowa Official Register has a list of candidates for this section. They won't all merit inclusion here, but should give some good ideas for people adjusting the list. -- Philosopher Let us reason together. 05:18, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
I have started a drive to get Iowa up to WP:Good Article status. If anyone would like to help, I have started a subpage at User:Ctjf83/Iowa, with ideas/suggestions. Feel free to add/modify any of it. Any help would be greatly appreciated!! :) CTJF83 Talk 03:48, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
I propose deleting the US Highways subsection. It is a tedious enumeration no one will ever read and serves no point. (I have not read all of it, my lids keep closing....) We can leave the shorter Interstate Highways section. Bill Whittaker ( talk) 20:51, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
In case other folks are curious, this is the text in question:
Bill Whittaker ( talk) 18:15, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Heaven forbid if out-of-staters found out that Iowa has a major U.S. highway network beyond the interstate system and might discover a small town or two that doesn't lead to Des Moines. And yes, Bill, people do read the transportation section. You didn't propose anything. You took it upon yourself to take out a section that bored you. Getting a better map that shows all major highways would be an improvement. —Preceding
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{{ Request edit}} I wish to add information to the Iowa article from Frontier Forts of Iowa (University of Iowa Press, 2009), a book I helped create; I know it is a bit weird to ask others to make these edits (since I edit the Iowa page often), but I don’t want to run afoul of COI. For more info, see: User:Billwhittaker/Forts.
This is the info I’d like you to change:
The first known European explorers to document Iowa were Jacques Marquette and Louis Jolliet who traveled the Mississippi River in 1673 documenting several Indian villages on the Iowa side. [2] [3] The area of Iowa was claimed for France and remained a French territory until 1763. When the French, realizing defeat in the French and Indian War, they transferred ownership to its ally, Spain. Spain practiced very loose control over the Iowa region, granting trading licenses to French and British traders, who established trading posts along the Mississippi and Des Moines Rivers. [2] Iowa was part of a territory known as La Louisiane or Louisiana, and European traders were interested in lead and furs obtained by Indians. The Sauk and Meskwaki effectively controlled trade on the Mississippi in the late 18th and early 19th century. Among the early traders on the Mississippi were Julien Dubuque, Robert La Salle, and Paul Marin. [2] Along the Missouri River at least five French and English trading houses were built prior to 1808. [4] In 1800, Napoleon Bonaparte took control of Louisiana from Spain in a treaty. After the 1803 Louisiana Purchase, Iowa was placed under United States control. Much of Iowa was mapped by Zebulon Pike in 1805, [5] but it was not until the construction of Fort Madison in 1808 that the U.S. established tenuous military control over the region. [6]
Fort Madison was built to control trade and establish U.S. dominance over the Upper Mississippi, but it was poorly designed and disliked by the Sauk and Ho-Chunk, many of whom allied with the British, who had not abandoned claims to the territory. [6] [7] Fort Madison was defeated by British-supported Indians in 1813 during the War of 1812, and Fort Shelby in Prairie du Chien, Wisconsin, also fell to the British. Black Hawk took part in the siege of Fort Madison. [8] [9] After the war, the U.S. reestablished control of the region through the construction of Fort Armstrong, Fort Snelling in Minnesota, and Fort Atkinson (Nebraska) in Nebraska. [10]
Yes, JD lived in Iowa for a few years, he ran a mill along the Yellow River in Allamakee County; it has been mentioned in several histories eg: http://www.sharylscabin.com/Allamakee/history4/yellowriver_41.htm I didn't put a citation in the article, since none of the other notable Iowans had citations. Archaeologists from UW-Lacross found the mill location a few years ago.... Bill Whittaker ( talk) 21:25, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
The article currently claims that Iowa proportionally contributed more personnel to the Union than any other state. I have heard from several sources (in person, so I can't cite anything concrete) that this statistic might be inflated. Iowa was the westernmost state that supported the Union (having been admitted in 1846). Settlers that had been in the west (Nebraska, Colorado, and Dakota Territories) traveled back to fight. The first Union state they encountered was Iowa, so they signed on to units associated with that state. I have no civil war academic credentials, so if somebody who knows about this could dig up evidence for or against, that would be swell. 72.225.131.167 ( talk) 00:34, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
This is laid out in the French and India War article and in that article's links/sources. I don't see what the objection to that phrases' inclusion is. - Schrandit ( talk) 13:16, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
How popular are the 55 "Notable Iowans"? Here is the number of visits to each person's page in March, from Grok, ordered descending:
MEAN SCORE: 25493.49 (Andy Williams and higher)
Note: Slipknot should not have been included, since it is not a person, just like the Iowa State Fair and Iowa caucus are not persons.
I propose we delete all entertainers, writers, and athletes who have a score of less than 5,000, and take a hard look at all others less than 2500. If someone can't garner 2500 visits, they really need to win a Nobel to be included, I think. Perhaps I am being too draconian again... Thoughts? Bill Whittaker ( talk) 18:18, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
I propose we get rid of the nav box at the bottom of the article just under "Realted Information". I find it hard to believe there are many folks who use these things to get around WP; IMHO it is pretty ugly as well... Bill Whittaker ( talk) 16:00, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Bill Whittaker ( talk) 17:49, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
While I appreciate Hawkeye-Cyclone rivarly, search of google for "Cyclone state" came up with no reliable refs to the term being used for the state as a whole, just a passing reference to a billboard put up by a Cyclone fan. A few blog/facebook entries from Cyclone fans, but nothing from newspapers, books, etc. to indicate this is a widespread nickname. May have been put up because of the Saturday UI-ISU game. Can anyone find a better ref? Bill Whittaker ( talk) 17:31, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
The Cities section (changed, inexplicably, from "Attractions") has become a spammy dumping ground for info about cities that probably belong in each city's article. Anyone care to pare it back? Perhaps call it "Attractions" again, since it has a "Statewide" section? Bill Whittaker ( talk) 17:22, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
Changed title back to "Attractions" I removed references to all “attractions” that lack an article page (but made 2 redlinks to things that should have articles). I removed some things that are not actually attractions, such as the Ames Straw Poll (no one can visit a straw poll). Got rid of a lot of puffery and low-level attractions such as the Englert Theater (nothing personal, I love the Englert, but it is not worthy of being on the Iowa page.) Removed a lot of wordage explaining why things are interesting; if someone want to know why, they can just look on those pages. I agree with Al H., need an expanded Culture of Iowa page. I'm not opposed to renaming "Attractions" to "Culture" Bill Whittaker ( talk) 02:19, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
I have a concern about the use of the word "boasts" in this section. Is it not a "peacock" term? I almost made changes but as I am fairly new at Wiki editing I am looking for a more experienced editor to make the call. RifeIdeas Talk 05:11, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
I came on this page hoping to know what U.S. states pile up vertically below Minnesota and Iowa. I haven't been able to find a map of the U.S.A. with the names of the different states. So I hopped from article to article... until I came on this one and realized that, contrary to what was on previous articles and allowed me to know where all western states from Washington+Oregon+California to the Dakotas-Texas line were, there's no indication of the neighboring states of Iowa. I think borders are relevant and even necessary in an article about a state or country. Amenel ( talk) 10:08, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
I couldn't help noticing that this article made no mention of the famous "Iowa Corn Song" ("Io-way, Io-way, that's where the tall corn grows!"), a stirring musical work inextricably associated with the honest, hardworking people of this prototypical Midwestern state. Needless to say, but I'll say it anyway, this is a disappointment. I believe this article should not only mention the "Iowa Corn Song", but should link to a dedicated "Iowa Corn Song" article. Had I the time to consider writing such an article, I'd certainly do same---if only to honor the stoic image of these modern-day pioneers as they take a stand for freedom, decency, and other traditional Midwestern values, as well as, naturally, corn of unimpeachable quality. SomeAvailableName ( talk) 22:19, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
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