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Hi. I'm not a wikipedian, just someone who came to read an article and found it frightfully bad. I'm a person who knows a fair bit about music, I know what relative minor or secondary dominant are, I can explain to you why one might ever want a double sharp. But I couldn't make head nor tail out of this article. Having read it, I still can't tell you what the ionian mode is, other than that it is apparently quite similar to major mode (but how it differs remains a mystery). I cannot BELIEVE that someone put up an article about a mode without listing one single concrete example of that mode applied to a scale! If C is the tonic, WHAT ARE THE FRIGGING NOTES OF AN IONIAN SCALE????????? This article is apparently written only for people who already know modes inside and out. I am now going to get up and go in the other room and pull out my music dictionary and actually learn what the ionian mode is, since wikipedia has utterly failed me.
The mode articles are a mess when taken together. The articles need to be standardized and some of the general information consolidated into the Musical mode article and removed from all the articles about specific modes.
a few specific propositions:
corresponding information
Information about modes in general
Greek vs. modern terminology confusion'
avoiding articl style divergence with later editors not privy to the standardization project
Am I getting across the idea here? What do you guys think about such a project? I know there is a way to set up a wikiproject for this sort of thing, but I've never done it before. I'll look into how to do it. Any other ideas on how to make the articles fit better together? Any objections or improvements to the above suggestions? Brentt 09:23, 23 May 2006 (UTC) PS please respond and discuss at the Musical mode talk page
“ | The twelfth mode was the plagal version of the Ionian mode, called Hypionian (under Ionian) | ” |
Shouldn't it be called "hypoionian", if it means "under ionian"? This is a random passerby's observations... could be a spelling mistake, I dunno... Kareeser| Talk! 03:31, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
This article is older than its history page shows. There was a botched page move in December 2006. The article had more accurate information before the move. I've asked for help repairing the page history, and I have re-added information that was lost. The Greek Ionian mode was a G-G natural scale, when someone changed that to C-C, the article failed to make sense. — Gareth Hughes 17:16, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
I have changed a blatant error in the passage that says it is-
based around the relative natural scale in G (that is, the same as playing all the 'white notes' of a piano from G to G)
when it is actually based around the natural scale in C (as is said later in the article).
I think the link to the Major mode should be mention in the introduction, saying something like The Ionian mode is a musical mode of diatonic scale, corresponding to the Major mode in the Major/Minor system. This will give all readers with any musical knowledge a quick understanding of what the scale is. 203.51.33.127 ( talk) 03:20, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Looking at Ionian Mode, it seems to have the same pattern as a major scale - base note, W, W, H, W, W, W, H... is it any different from the major scale, or is it an ancestor? This article is very unclear... 70.44.144.56 ( talk) 22:19, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
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Hi. I'm not a wikipedian, just someone who came to read an article and found it frightfully bad. I'm a person who knows a fair bit about music, I know what relative minor or secondary dominant are, I can explain to you why one might ever want a double sharp. But I couldn't make head nor tail out of this article. Having read it, I still can't tell you what the ionian mode is, other than that it is apparently quite similar to major mode (but how it differs remains a mystery). I cannot BELIEVE that someone put up an article about a mode without listing one single concrete example of that mode applied to a scale! If C is the tonic, WHAT ARE THE FRIGGING NOTES OF AN IONIAN SCALE????????? This article is apparently written only for people who already know modes inside and out. I am now going to get up and go in the other room and pull out my music dictionary and actually learn what the ionian mode is, since wikipedia has utterly failed me.
The mode articles are a mess when taken together. The articles need to be standardized and some of the general information consolidated into the Musical mode article and removed from all the articles about specific modes.
a few specific propositions:
corresponding information
Information about modes in general
Greek vs. modern terminology confusion'
avoiding articl style divergence with later editors not privy to the standardization project
Am I getting across the idea here? What do you guys think about such a project? I know there is a way to set up a wikiproject for this sort of thing, but I've never done it before. I'll look into how to do it. Any other ideas on how to make the articles fit better together? Any objections or improvements to the above suggestions? Brentt 09:23, 23 May 2006 (UTC) PS please respond and discuss at the Musical mode talk page
“ | The twelfth mode was the plagal version of the Ionian mode, called Hypionian (under Ionian) | ” |
Shouldn't it be called "hypoionian", if it means "under ionian"? This is a random passerby's observations... could be a spelling mistake, I dunno... Kareeser| Talk! 03:31, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
This article is older than its history page shows. There was a botched page move in December 2006. The article had more accurate information before the move. I've asked for help repairing the page history, and I have re-added information that was lost. The Greek Ionian mode was a G-G natural scale, when someone changed that to C-C, the article failed to make sense. — Gareth Hughes 17:16, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
I have changed a blatant error in the passage that says it is-
based around the relative natural scale in G (that is, the same as playing all the 'white notes' of a piano from G to G)
when it is actually based around the natural scale in C (as is said later in the article).
I think the link to the Major mode should be mention in the introduction, saying something like The Ionian mode is a musical mode of diatonic scale, corresponding to the Major mode in the Major/Minor system. This will give all readers with any musical knowledge a quick understanding of what the scale is. 203.51.33.127 ( talk) 03:20, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Looking at Ionian Mode, it seems to have the same pattern as a major scale - base note, W, W, H, W, W, W, H... is it any different from the major scale, or is it an ancestor? This article is very unclear... 70.44.144.56 ( talk) 22:19, 12 January 2009 (UTC)