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I am making this a separate article. In one sense, the word "investor" merely means a party who makes investments. However, the word has taken on specific meanings and it is important in the world of business to understand the different types of parties who act as investors, as distinct from the nature or form of the investment. Wikidemo 19:50, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
This edit [1] appears a bit odd. The word "investor" is a broad term. The following dictionary definition is as good as any: "the purchase of a financial product or other item of value with an expectation of favorable future returns". [2] This article contains a list of different types of personal and organizational investors. That's an important concept, even if the article is very rudimentary: the activity of investing in order to accumulate capital (or achieve annuities, or hedge, diversify, or otherwise improve one's financial condition) is a fundamental one that underpins most of the world economy. Although there is a distinction to be made between investing in original Securities offerings and investing in subsequent secondary markets, placing capital in either of them is generally considered an investment. From the investor's point of view the distinction between buying a security directly from the issuer, and buying it from an intermediary or someone who has held it before, is relevant but not fundamental... in fact, it's the saleability in the secondary market that makes a security a security.
Indeed, the body of the article talks about investing in derivatives, stock markets, artwork, investment trusts, hedge funds, etc., none of which are necessarily direct investments in an enterprise. What you can say is that someone is only an investor in a particular company if they purchase an original issuance. But that's not what this article is about. A couple more technical points. It's not encyclopedic in tone to introduce something by saying "it is important to note". The presumption is that if it's in the encyclopedia it's important enough to note. Further, a citation to a book should include a specific reference to a passage in the book that supports the encyclopedia content in question, and if the source is challenged and behind a pay wall it's useful to include the direct quote in the citation. - Wikidemon ( talk) 08:05, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
I want to post the following and it was deleted. I was asked to discuss it here. What is incorrect about this post? "It is important to note that shareholders and bondholders are "investors" if and only if they are the original purchasers of the debt or equity. All others are in the secondary market. That is, while the secondary market indirectly supports the primary market, it does not contribute original capital to the issuing organization. Therefore, those in the secondary market are NOT investors. [1] " — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sigiheri ( talk • contribs) 19:03, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
I adjusted the article to reflect that your definition does not distinguish between those in the primary or secondary markets, or speculators. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sigiheri ( talk • contribs) 01:09, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
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The assumption of risk in anticipation of gain but recognizing a higher than average possibility of loss. The term speculation implies that a business or investment risk can be analyzed and measured, and its distinction from the term Investment is one of degree of risk. It differs from gambling, which is based on random outcomes. [1] There is nothing in the act of speculating or investing that suggests holding times, have anything to do with the difference in the degree of risk separating speculation from investing.
Speculation from 14c., "contemplation, consideration, contemplation, observation, to look at, view" (see scope). Disparaging sense of "mere conjecture" is recorded from 1570s. Meaning "buying and selling in search of profit from rise and fall of market value" is recorded from 1774. [3]
Scope sense of "distance the mind can reach, extent of view" first recorded c.1600. [4]
Investment 1590s, “act of putting on vestments, commercial sense is from 1610s, originally of the finances of the East India Company; general use is from 1740 in the general sense of “conversion of money to property in hopes of profit,” and by 1837 in the sense “amount of money so invested; property viewed as a vehicle for profit.” [5]
What is significant to note is the change from a passive to an active form of use. Specifically from a strict observer to one who contemplates what they observe then further to one who contemplates and acts on what they observe.
With these changes, the word as now commonly used, describes one who observes an object, event, or situation and takes some form of action with regard to the observed, all the while aware they may not know all the facts or factors regarding or affecting that which they observe. E.g. the financial speculator, one who understands and accepts he may not know all the facts or risks involved with a venture, yet chooses to invest his capital in the venture for the possibility of receiving greater capital in return.
-oo0(GoldTrader)0oo- ( talk) 05:00, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
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Explain it to me as a beginner 192.145.174.142 ( talk) 10:10, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Financier was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 10 August 2017 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Investor. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
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I am making this a separate article. In one sense, the word "investor" merely means a party who makes investments. However, the word has taken on specific meanings and it is important in the world of business to understand the different types of parties who act as investors, as distinct from the nature or form of the investment. Wikidemo 19:50, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
This edit [1] appears a bit odd. The word "investor" is a broad term. The following dictionary definition is as good as any: "the purchase of a financial product or other item of value with an expectation of favorable future returns". [2] This article contains a list of different types of personal and organizational investors. That's an important concept, even if the article is very rudimentary: the activity of investing in order to accumulate capital (or achieve annuities, or hedge, diversify, or otherwise improve one's financial condition) is a fundamental one that underpins most of the world economy. Although there is a distinction to be made between investing in original Securities offerings and investing in subsequent secondary markets, placing capital in either of them is generally considered an investment. From the investor's point of view the distinction between buying a security directly from the issuer, and buying it from an intermediary or someone who has held it before, is relevant but not fundamental... in fact, it's the saleability in the secondary market that makes a security a security.
Indeed, the body of the article talks about investing in derivatives, stock markets, artwork, investment trusts, hedge funds, etc., none of which are necessarily direct investments in an enterprise. What you can say is that someone is only an investor in a particular company if they purchase an original issuance. But that's not what this article is about. A couple more technical points. It's not encyclopedic in tone to introduce something by saying "it is important to note". The presumption is that if it's in the encyclopedia it's important enough to note. Further, a citation to a book should include a specific reference to a passage in the book that supports the encyclopedia content in question, and if the source is challenged and behind a pay wall it's useful to include the direct quote in the citation. - Wikidemon ( talk) 08:05, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
I want to post the following and it was deleted. I was asked to discuss it here. What is incorrect about this post? "It is important to note that shareholders and bondholders are "investors" if and only if they are the original purchasers of the debt or equity. All others are in the secondary market. That is, while the secondary market indirectly supports the primary market, it does not contribute original capital to the issuing organization. Therefore, those in the secondary market are NOT investors. [1] " — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sigiheri ( talk • contribs) 19:03, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
I adjusted the article to reflect that your definition does not distinguish between those in the primary or secondary markets, or speculators. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sigiheri ( talk • contribs) 01:09, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
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The assumption of risk in anticipation of gain but recognizing a higher than average possibility of loss. The term speculation implies that a business or investment risk can be analyzed and measured, and its distinction from the term Investment is one of degree of risk. It differs from gambling, which is based on random outcomes. [1] There is nothing in the act of speculating or investing that suggests holding times, have anything to do with the difference in the degree of risk separating speculation from investing.
Speculation from 14c., "contemplation, consideration, contemplation, observation, to look at, view" (see scope). Disparaging sense of "mere conjecture" is recorded from 1570s. Meaning "buying and selling in search of profit from rise and fall of market value" is recorded from 1774. [3]
Scope sense of "distance the mind can reach, extent of view" first recorded c.1600. [4]
Investment 1590s, “act of putting on vestments, commercial sense is from 1610s, originally of the finances of the East India Company; general use is from 1740 in the general sense of “conversion of money to property in hopes of profit,” and by 1837 in the sense “amount of money so invested; property viewed as a vehicle for profit.” [5]
What is significant to note is the change from a passive to an active form of use. Specifically from a strict observer to one who contemplates what they observe then further to one who contemplates and acts on what they observe.
With these changes, the word as now commonly used, describes one who observes an object, event, or situation and takes some form of action with regard to the observed, all the while aware they may not know all the facts or factors regarding or affecting that which they observe. E.g. the financial speculator, one who understands and accepts he may not know all the facts or risks involved with a venture, yet chooses to invest his capital in the venture for the possibility of receiving greater capital in return.
-oo0(GoldTrader)0oo- ( talk) 05:00, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
References
Explain it to me as a beginner 192.145.174.142 ( talk) 10:10, 12 September 2022 (UTC)