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You reverted the edits I had done on Interstitial Cystitis stating that I wasn't following the Mos. Could you please give me more feedback than that?? What caught your eye that I was doing wrong. I'm recovering from surgery and had some hours to spare.. and would hate to lose these updates.. especially when this page had been clearly changed by industry.. promoting neuromodulation, etc. etc. Aruaidh ( talk) 02:57, 25 September 2010 (UTC)Aruaidh
I attempted several edits yesterday to include new research and protocols released during the AUA 2010 annual meeting. The nomenclature debate for IC has been going on for over a decade... and the problem that I have with the text as written is that it assumes that the world is now following the ESSIC name/criteria of Bladder Pain Syndrome. Simply not the case. The problem with the ESSIC criteria is that it excludes patients who have frequency/urgency without pain from a diagnosis. There are comparatively few practitioners in the rest of the world who follow these guidelines. I attended the NIH/NIDDK meeting at which this was discussed and there is, by no means, an international consensus of the ESSIC guidelines. They will never be implemented in the United States as written.
In 2008, when the Japanese Urology community issued their standards, they chose the name "Hypersensitive Bladder Syndrome" to avoid the exclusion of patients without pain and because they felt that sensitivity was a more accurate description of what is happening in the bladder wall. This is quite likely the best article written on IC to date discussing the nomenclature debate. In 2009, the Indian Guidelines were released, revealing that they would be using the term "Interstitial Cystitis/Painful Bladder Syndrome." In 2010, the American Urology Association introduced the AUA Guidelines and they will be using the name "Interstitial Cystitis/Bladder Pain Syndrome" for the foreseeable future in large part because our understanding of IC has changed so dramatically in the past year that what we thought we knew may be completely incorrect. Research now suggests that IC is an afferent gating disorder.. with systemic implications or, at the very least, a neurosensitivity disorder. Thus, if any name has the potential of being used in the future, it would be the Japanese approach.
For those who are interested, there are some webcasts from the AUA meeting which discuss the pros and cons of name changes What's in a name: What Happened to Interstitial Cystitis and the new AUA standards.
The other critical development is the new phenotyping methodology which now assesses AND TREATS patients with respect to six specific domains, including the presence of infection pelvic floor muscle tension, the presence of psycho social problems (anxiety, catastrophic thinking), organ specific issues (i.e. Hunner's Ulcers).. etc. etc.. which also blows out of the water the implication that IC is a bladder specific disease.
I propose that we return to using IC or IC/BPS or IC/BPS/HBS... rather than BPS/IC for this discussion. Comments? Interestingly, the website UROTODAY uses IC/PBS/BPS/HBS in their discussions.
I attempted several edits that were reverted yesterday and would appreciate your review of these again. The treatment discussion, in particular, was poorly organized, did not differentiate between oral medications, intravesical instillations, etc. The neuromodulation area was misleading at best given the fact that there is substantial risk, including numerous fatalities when using this methodology. Please check those out and give me feedback. I am recovering from surgery so am still in a painful recovery process.
Jill Osborne - Interstitial Cystitis Network President & Founder ( talk) 18:14, 25 September 2010 (UTC) Aruaidh
I think that reference to NRSI and SSRI drug entries could be more generalized. Duloxetine and amitryptaline (and escitalopram) may provide a therapeutic effect in a small subset of cases.
eg. this article promotes duloxetine for IC Given that people who read this may be desperately seeking pain relief, and may have not tried all drugs, all should be mentioned as possible treatments with efficacy in a subset of cases. Let the patient pursue the best treatment given their own response.
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This article should be referenced to high quality sources such as review articles rather than to primary research papers and the popular press. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 12:08, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
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Unfortunately I say this article does not yet meet the good article criteria. It appears to need a cleanup and updating in sourcing. Right now I see the sentence "A Harvard University study concluded, 'the impact of interstitial cystitis on quality of life is severe and debilitating' " in the lead. Although, there shouldn't be a reason to name drop "Harvard" like this (see WP:MEDREV). That paper is from 2000 and is a primary research paper. Per WP:MEDDATE, we try to use recent review articles if possible, and I see it has been cited by three review articles. The most recent is PMID 19548999 "Clinical guidelines for interstitial cystitis and hypersensitive bladder syndrome" (2009). That would be a good source to rewrite content with. And then we have "A Harvard Medical School guide...", which sounds like further name dropping and it is cited to a teriary source, which is not ideal in this case. A clinical practice guideline is one type of secondary WP:MEDRS and review articles are another. These should be cited for most of the content in a medical article (when they can be located, and it appears they can be in this case). I have tagged the article as needing WP:MEDRS, because it cites questionable sources such as old primary research. For example, the statement "Neuromodulation can be successful in treating IC/BPS symptoms, including pain" is cited to a 1994 paper. I encourage the nominator to work on the article and contact me if help identifying secondary sources would be helpful. If the nominator would like to work on this article for the next few weeks, I can leave this review open. Biosthmors ( talk) 20:53, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
The history section should be prose and sourced to secondary sources. It's OK for good articles to have some short sections, so perhaps three sentences is all that is needed here. Right now there are all these [53], [54], etc. things that make no sense and look like an old copy/paste job from a former version. Biosthmors ( talk) 17:10, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
There appears to be an excessive amount of sections in the body of the article, which makes for a long table of contents. See Dengue fever for an idea of how many subsections are generally acceptable. There is also a tendency for the article to have one paragraph sentences, which is not ideal. Can we consolidate things into more prose/paragraphs? Biosthmors ( talk) 23:14, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
The WP:LEAD currently contains a paragraph discussing how the condition is disabling. I don't understand why this is necessary. Trim? I think this it is currently WP:UNDUE and against WP:MEDMOS. Biosthmors ( talk) 05:01, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
The lead also talks about the epidemiology in this way: a 2009 study said X. a 2010 study and y, and a 2012 study said z! But this is a poor format. We are an encyclopedia and we are based off of WP:SECONDARY sources, not primary sources. We state the best evidence without trying to give a quasi-historical play by play of recent primary studies. This is also undue in my opinion. Biosthmors ( talk) 05:01, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
Sentences such as " In 2005, understanding of IC/BPS improved dramatically and these therapies are now no longer used." are historical statements. They belong in the history section, not the medication section, where we should summarize the most current WP:MEDRS, in my opinion. Biosthmors ( talk) 05:01, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
A numbered list ( Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Lists#Numbered_lists -- ignore the html box) could be done for the "six step" guideline portion. However, first line, second line, etc. suggests order of prominence, while "six step" sounds like all things should be done in succession. Clarify by saying something like, "the following six options are suggested, with lower numbers indicating more preferred treatement options"? Biosthmors ( talk) 19:16, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
Comment. I closed this review due to being short on time with the consent of the nominator [1] and under the expectation this article will go to peer review, get comments, and then be resubmitted for GA status. Biosthmors ( talk) 18:35, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
The DMSO page mentions use for treatment - yet this page lacks any mention.
Shirley SW, Stewart BH, Mirelman S.; Stewart; Mirelman (March 1978). "Dimethyl Sulfoxide in Treatment of Inflammatory Genitourinary Disorders". Urology. 11 (3): 215–220. doi: 10.1016/0090-4295(78)90118-8. PMID 636125. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.243.106.82 ( talk) 16:33, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
I put quantify after "IC/BPS can result" in the lead because it is vague. Is it 1/1000 or 4/10? Biosthmors ( talk) 16:04, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
My edit on Kegel exercises was reversed, but the text still has essentially the same meaning, except it's unclear, hinting that kegels can help IC. I'm not aware of papers that claim they are helpful. Got any? Ratel ( talk) 07:19, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
The study in question references another study by the same author (see it here ) where the claim is made that IC is linked to gluten somehow with frequency "undetermined". No data is presented in this original study, and no sources for the claim. I see they also linked "ingrown hairs" to gluten, and other unfounded claims. Junk science. Gluten probably IS linked to IC, but this is not proof. Ratel ( talk) 01:24, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
References
Yes, I agree that there is "some evidence" of an association of NCGS with chronic pelvic pain (IC and CP/CPPS), but as you have discovered yourself, it all goes back to anecdotal evidence, as in the case report you offer above (who also seems to be the source of all the other "undetermined" maladies, like "ingrown hairs"). I accept your modification, but rather than citing only the review study (Carlo Catassi reviewing his own studies), I'll insert a cite to the case report too. Ratel ( talk) 21:54, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Doc James, you removed reference to links to fibromyalgia and IBS. But "For example, epidemiological studies have revealed that IC/BPS is commonly associated with other chronic pain conditions, including fibromyalgia, irritable bowel syndrome and chronic fatigue syndrome." This from a review study, and Pubmed full of other evidence to support. Please re-insert. Ratel ( talk) 21:06, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
I would like to see some coverage of Cystistat. When I first looked at the literature there seemed like a lot of good studies of it - for example Long-term results of intravesical hyaluronan therapy in bladder pain syndrome/interstitial cystitis. (2011) found half in remission after five years which is discussed in Review of intravesical therapies for bladder pain syndrome/interstitial cystitis (2015) but without much in the way of interesting commentary or critique. Apparently Cystistat is approved in many countries (Canada, EU per this) but not the U.S. II | ( t - c) 21:49, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
Hey Doc James ( talk · contribs), what is the problem with the source added here? II | ( t - c) 17:55, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
Decent source. Added a summary of it here [2].
Yes to bring Wikipedia to the next level of quality is going to be hard work. It however is much much less difficult editing WP than trying to publish in a major peer reviewed medical journal. And peer reviewed medical journals have no lack of people interested in writing in them.
I am not convinced that the difficulty of editing Wikipedia is the cause for the flat lining of our editor numbers. Part of the evidence I see for this is what little effect VE had on people editing. VE is much easier to edit with but it did not lead to an increase in editors. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 09:46, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
Source of more information:
Singapore Med J. 2015 Dec; 56(12): 660–665. doi: 10.11622/smedj.2015185 PMCID: PMC4678404 PMID: 26702160 The clinical presentation and diagnosis of ketamine-associated urinary tract dysfunction in Singapore
Jacklyn Yek, MBBS, MRCS,1 Palaniappan Sundaram, MBBS, MRCS,1 Hakan Aydin, MB, Am Bd Pathology,2 Tricia Kuo, MBBS, MRCS,1 and Lay Guat Ng, MBBS, FRCS1 1. Winstock AR, Mitcheson L, Gillatt DA, Cottrell AM. The prevalence and natural history of urinary symptoms among recreational ketamine users. BJU Int. 2012;110:1762–6.
Chu PS, Ma WK, Wong SC, et al. The destruction of the lower urinary tract by ketamine abuse: a new syndrome? BJU Int. 2008;102:1616–22.
Middela S, Pearce I. Ketamine-induced vesicopathy: a literature review. Int J Clin Pract. 2011;65:27–30.
Tsai TH, Cha TL, Lin CM, et al. Ketamine-associated bladder dysfunction. Int J Urol. 2009;16:826–9.
Hanno PM, Burks DA, Clemens JQ, et al. Diagnosis and treatment of interstitial cystitis/bladder pain syndrome, amended 2014. American Urological Association Available at: https://www.auanet.org/education/guidelines/ic-bladder-pain-syndrome.cfm .
Lee CL, Jiang YH, Kuo HC. Increased apoptosis and suburothelial inflammation in patients with ketamine-related cystitis: a comparison with non-ulcerative interstitial cystitis and controls. BJU Int. 2013;112:1156–62.
95.146.100.219 ( talk) 16:45, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
I have had IC for 24 years. The information on this page is so wrong I can’t even believe it.
We (my grandmother and mother) all had cystograms which identified the deterioration of the lining of the bladder. That is what IC is. What kind of crack pot wrote this description I can’t imagine. It’s not a ruling out disease. You make it seem like a mental health issue. We live in chronic pain. The best treatment is cystostat which is inserted via catheter. 70.50.99.74 ( talk) 19:32, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
IC is not exclusive to females. I am male and have been dealing with it for 5 years. About 2% of sufferers are male. JW0419 ( talk) 17:09, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
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You reverted the edits I had done on Interstitial Cystitis stating that I wasn't following the Mos. Could you please give me more feedback than that?? What caught your eye that I was doing wrong. I'm recovering from surgery and had some hours to spare.. and would hate to lose these updates.. especially when this page had been clearly changed by industry.. promoting neuromodulation, etc. etc. Aruaidh ( talk) 02:57, 25 September 2010 (UTC)Aruaidh
I attempted several edits yesterday to include new research and protocols released during the AUA 2010 annual meeting. The nomenclature debate for IC has been going on for over a decade... and the problem that I have with the text as written is that it assumes that the world is now following the ESSIC name/criteria of Bladder Pain Syndrome. Simply not the case. The problem with the ESSIC criteria is that it excludes patients who have frequency/urgency without pain from a diagnosis. There are comparatively few practitioners in the rest of the world who follow these guidelines. I attended the NIH/NIDDK meeting at which this was discussed and there is, by no means, an international consensus of the ESSIC guidelines. They will never be implemented in the United States as written.
In 2008, when the Japanese Urology community issued their standards, they chose the name "Hypersensitive Bladder Syndrome" to avoid the exclusion of patients without pain and because they felt that sensitivity was a more accurate description of what is happening in the bladder wall. This is quite likely the best article written on IC to date discussing the nomenclature debate. In 2009, the Indian Guidelines were released, revealing that they would be using the term "Interstitial Cystitis/Painful Bladder Syndrome." In 2010, the American Urology Association introduced the AUA Guidelines and they will be using the name "Interstitial Cystitis/Bladder Pain Syndrome" for the foreseeable future in large part because our understanding of IC has changed so dramatically in the past year that what we thought we knew may be completely incorrect. Research now suggests that IC is an afferent gating disorder.. with systemic implications or, at the very least, a neurosensitivity disorder. Thus, if any name has the potential of being used in the future, it would be the Japanese approach.
For those who are interested, there are some webcasts from the AUA meeting which discuss the pros and cons of name changes What's in a name: What Happened to Interstitial Cystitis and the new AUA standards.
The other critical development is the new phenotyping methodology which now assesses AND TREATS patients with respect to six specific domains, including the presence of infection pelvic floor muscle tension, the presence of psycho social problems (anxiety, catastrophic thinking), organ specific issues (i.e. Hunner's Ulcers).. etc. etc.. which also blows out of the water the implication that IC is a bladder specific disease.
I propose that we return to using IC or IC/BPS or IC/BPS/HBS... rather than BPS/IC for this discussion. Comments? Interestingly, the website UROTODAY uses IC/PBS/BPS/HBS in their discussions.
I attempted several edits that were reverted yesterday and would appreciate your review of these again. The treatment discussion, in particular, was poorly organized, did not differentiate between oral medications, intravesical instillations, etc. The neuromodulation area was misleading at best given the fact that there is substantial risk, including numerous fatalities when using this methodology. Please check those out and give me feedback. I am recovering from surgery so am still in a painful recovery process.
Jill Osborne - Interstitial Cystitis Network President & Founder ( talk) 18:14, 25 September 2010 (UTC) Aruaidh
I think that reference to NRSI and SSRI drug entries could be more generalized. Duloxetine and amitryptaline (and escitalopram) may provide a therapeutic effect in a small subset of cases.
eg. this article promotes duloxetine for IC Given that people who read this may be desperately seeking pain relief, and may have not tried all drugs, all should be mentioned as possible treatments with efficacy in a subset of cases. Let the patient pursue the best treatment given their own response.
StephenSmith (
talk)
06:21, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
This article should be referenced to high quality sources such as review articles rather than to primary research papers and the popular press. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 12:08, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Biosthmors ( talk · contribs) 20:53, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Unfortunately I say this article does not yet meet the good article criteria. It appears to need a cleanup and updating in sourcing. Right now I see the sentence "A Harvard University study concluded, 'the impact of interstitial cystitis on quality of life is severe and debilitating' " in the lead. Although, there shouldn't be a reason to name drop "Harvard" like this (see WP:MEDREV). That paper is from 2000 and is a primary research paper. Per WP:MEDDATE, we try to use recent review articles if possible, and I see it has been cited by three review articles. The most recent is PMID 19548999 "Clinical guidelines for interstitial cystitis and hypersensitive bladder syndrome" (2009). That would be a good source to rewrite content with. And then we have "A Harvard Medical School guide...", which sounds like further name dropping and it is cited to a teriary source, which is not ideal in this case. A clinical practice guideline is one type of secondary WP:MEDRS and review articles are another. These should be cited for most of the content in a medical article (when they can be located, and it appears they can be in this case). I have tagged the article as needing WP:MEDRS, because it cites questionable sources such as old primary research. For example, the statement "Neuromodulation can be successful in treating IC/BPS symptoms, including pain" is cited to a 1994 paper. I encourage the nominator to work on the article and contact me if help identifying secondary sources would be helpful. If the nominator would like to work on this article for the next few weeks, I can leave this review open. Biosthmors ( talk) 20:53, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
The history section should be prose and sourced to secondary sources. It's OK for good articles to have some short sections, so perhaps three sentences is all that is needed here. Right now there are all these [53], [54], etc. things that make no sense and look like an old copy/paste job from a former version. Biosthmors ( talk) 17:10, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
There appears to be an excessive amount of sections in the body of the article, which makes for a long table of contents. See Dengue fever for an idea of how many subsections are generally acceptable. There is also a tendency for the article to have one paragraph sentences, which is not ideal. Can we consolidate things into more prose/paragraphs? Biosthmors ( talk) 23:14, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
The WP:LEAD currently contains a paragraph discussing how the condition is disabling. I don't understand why this is necessary. Trim? I think this it is currently WP:UNDUE and against WP:MEDMOS. Biosthmors ( talk) 05:01, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
The lead also talks about the epidemiology in this way: a 2009 study said X. a 2010 study and y, and a 2012 study said z! But this is a poor format. We are an encyclopedia and we are based off of WP:SECONDARY sources, not primary sources. We state the best evidence without trying to give a quasi-historical play by play of recent primary studies. This is also undue in my opinion. Biosthmors ( talk) 05:01, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
Sentences such as " In 2005, understanding of IC/BPS improved dramatically and these therapies are now no longer used." are historical statements. They belong in the history section, not the medication section, where we should summarize the most current WP:MEDRS, in my opinion. Biosthmors ( talk) 05:01, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
A numbered list ( Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Lists#Numbered_lists -- ignore the html box) could be done for the "six step" guideline portion. However, first line, second line, etc. suggests order of prominence, while "six step" sounds like all things should be done in succession. Clarify by saying something like, "the following six options are suggested, with lower numbers indicating more preferred treatement options"? Biosthmors ( talk) 19:16, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
Comment. I closed this review due to being short on time with the consent of the nominator [1] and under the expectation this article will go to peer review, get comments, and then be resubmitted for GA status. Biosthmors ( talk) 18:35, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
The DMSO page mentions use for treatment - yet this page lacks any mention.
Shirley SW, Stewart BH, Mirelman S.; Stewart; Mirelman (March 1978). "Dimethyl Sulfoxide in Treatment of Inflammatory Genitourinary Disorders". Urology. 11 (3): 215–220. doi: 10.1016/0090-4295(78)90118-8. PMID 636125. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.243.106.82 ( talk) 16:33, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
I put quantify after "IC/BPS can result" in the lead because it is vague. Is it 1/1000 or 4/10? Biosthmors ( talk) 16:04, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
My edit on Kegel exercises was reversed, but the text still has essentially the same meaning, except it's unclear, hinting that kegels can help IC. I'm not aware of papers that claim they are helpful. Got any? Ratel ( talk) 07:19, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
The study in question references another study by the same author (see it here ) where the claim is made that IC is linked to gluten somehow with frequency "undetermined". No data is presented in this original study, and no sources for the claim. I see they also linked "ingrown hairs" to gluten, and other unfounded claims. Junk science. Gluten probably IS linked to IC, but this is not proof. Ratel ( talk) 01:24, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
References
Yes, I agree that there is "some evidence" of an association of NCGS with chronic pelvic pain (IC and CP/CPPS), but as you have discovered yourself, it all goes back to anecdotal evidence, as in the case report you offer above (who also seems to be the source of all the other "undetermined" maladies, like "ingrown hairs"). I accept your modification, but rather than citing only the review study (Carlo Catassi reviewing his own studies), I'll insert a cite to the case report too. Ratel ( talk) 21:54, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Doc James, you removed reference to links to fibromyalgia and IBS. But "For example, epidemiological studies have revealed that IC/BPS is commonly associated with other chronic pain conditions, including fibromyalgia, irritable bowel syndrome and chronic fatigue syndrome." This from a review study, and Pubmed full of other evidence to support. Please re-insert. Ratel ( talk) 21:06, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
I would like to see some coverage of Cystistat. When I first looked at the literature there seemed like a lot of good studies of it - for example Long-term results of intravesical hyaluronan therapy in bladder pain syndrome/interstitial cystitis. (2011) found half in remission after five years which is discussed in Review of intravesical therapies for bladder pain syndrome/interstitial cystitis (2015) but without much in the way of interesting commentary or critique. Apparently Cystistat is approved in many countries (Canada, EU per this) but not the U.S. II | ( t - c) 21:49, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
Hey Doc James ( talk · contribs), what is the problem with the source added here? II | ( t - c) 17:55, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
Decent source. Added a summary of it here [2].
Yes to bring Wikipedia to the next level of quality is going to be hard work. It however is much much less difficult editing WP than trying to publish in a major peer reviewed medical journal. And peer reviewed medical journals have no lack of people interested in writing in them.
I am not convinced that the difficulty of editing Wikipedia is the cause for the flat lining of our editor numbers. Part of the evidence I see for this is what little effect VE had on people editing. VE is much easier to edit with but it did not lead to an increase in editors. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 09:46, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
Source of more information:
Singapore Med J. 2015 Dec; 56(12): 660–665. doi: 10.11622/smedj.2015185 PMCID: PMC4678404 PMID: 26702160 The clinical presentation and diagnosis of ketamine-associated urinary tract dysfunction in Singapore
Jacklyn Yek, MBBS, MRCS,1 Palaniappan Sundaram, MBBS, MRCS,1 Hakan Aydin, MB, Am Bd Pathology,2 Tricia Kuo, MBBS, MRCS,1 and Lay Guat Ng, MBBS, FRCS1 1. Winstock AR, Mitcheson L, Gillatt DA, Cottrell AM. The prevalence and natural history of urinary symptoms among recreational ketamine users. BJU Int. 2012;110:1762–6.
Chu PS, Ma WK, Wong SC, et al. The destruction of the lower urinary tract by ketamine abuse: a new syndrome? BJU Int. 2008;102:1616–22.
Middela S, Pearce I. Ketamine-induced vesicopathy: a literature review. Int J Clin Pract. 2011;65:27–30.
Tsai TH, Cha TL, Lin CM, et al. Ketamine-associated bladder dysfunction. Int J Urol. 2009;16:826–9.
Hanno PM, Burks DA, Clemens JQ, et al. Diagnosis and treatment of interstitial cystitis/bladder pain syndrome, amended 2014. American Urological Association Available at: https://www.auanet.org/education/guidelines/ic-bladder-pain-syndrome.cfm .
Lee CL, Jiang YH, Kuo HC. Increased apoptosis and suburothelial inflammation in patients with ketamine-related cystitis: a comparison with non-ulcerative interstitial cystitis and controls. BJU Int. 2013;112:1156–62.
95.146.100.219 ( talk) 16:45, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
I have had IC for 24 years. The information on this page is so wrong I can’t even believe it.
We (my grandmother and mother) all had cystograms which identified the deterioration of the lining of the bladder. That is what IC is. What kind of crack pot wrote this description I can’t imagine. It’s not a ruling out disease. You make it seem like a mental health issue. We live in chronic pain. The best treatment is cystostat which is inserted via catheter. 70.50.99.74 ( talk) 19:32, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
IC is not exclusive to females. I am male and have been dealing with it for 5 years. About 2% of sufferers are male. JW0419 ( talk) 17:09, 27 March 2024 (UTC)