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Love the images, but there's too many as is. Need a gallery, or to put some at commons. -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 06:11, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
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The bridges carrying I-15 over the Virgin River in Arizona are numbered from 1 to 7, increasing in number in the northbound direction. The original plans called for 7 separate bridges; however, a change order during construction combined Bridges 2 & 3 into a single continuous bridge from milepost 13.12 to 13.43. ADOT record systems still continue to keep separate entries for the two bridge segments, since they use slightly different structure types and details, but the reality is that there are only six actual bridges (abutment to abutment) on I-15 in Arizona, and four in the heart of the gorge. RCMoeur ( talk) 00:29, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
We might want to change the images; the two Cedar Pocket ones are very similar. We should probably move them to Commons too so we can link to the others. -- NE2 14:03, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I came here to say that too - the two ones at Cedar Pocket are virtally identical bar the weather conditions. Greater variety of images should be used, especially in a FA - it's a long road!. 81.156.126.30 ( talk) 08:39, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
I-15 wouldn't be Transcontinental as stated in the first line, seeing as it runs north south and not east west across the continent. If anything it is trans-national. Bigal888 ( talk) 17:19, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
this was a featured article ru high? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.18.171.153 ( talk) 02:10, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
A couple users have reverted my edits to the exit list and the mileage length. Maybe these users don't "agree" with these numbers, but I took them directly from ADOT Highway Log [2] so I don't see how there can be a dispute from them. At the bottom of page 99, it clearly states "29.39" for the total number of miles. It has been reverted to 29.3 and I'm not sure why, since this source clearly indicated otherwise. All my changes have been clearly cited - I would not make such changes without a citation in the first place. The mile marker for exits 9 and 18 have also been reverted. The log says the following:
Exit | On-ramp marker | Off-ramp marker |
---|---|---|
Farm Rd (9) | 9.83 | 10.03 |
Cedar Pocket (18) | 18.32 | 18.60 |
I don't see how the mile marker for these exits can be higher or lower than these numbers since the interchange can't take place before or after the on-/off-ramps. If there is a source that does say otherwise, then cite it properly, which does not mean to add a hidden comment next to the information. – Dream out loud ( talk) 15:42, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Here is what I see for mileage figures at exit 18 and the Utah/Arizona State line:
IMO the appropriate figure to use for exit 18 is 18.35. I think I know what you are missing. Remember that when two essentially parallel carriageways or roadbeds that both make a 90 degree curve, one roadbed will be slightly longer that the other, due to the differences in the radii of curvature. Specifically the roadbed on the inside of the curve will be slightly shorter. So if mileages are measured along the roadbed for that direction of travel (which is what ADOT has done) the mileages for the same feature will NOT line up. The only way to make them lineup is if the distances along both roadbeds are measured along a common line, such as the median. However, in mountainous terrain, where the distance between the median and each roadbed can vary significantly, this is not always practical. What those figures tell me is that a car driving from the NV/AZ state line to the bridge for exit 18 will have actually traveled slightly less than a car making the opposite drive on the southbound lanes. However the situation reverses itself by the time that northbound driver reaches the Utah state line. For the entire drive across the state, a northbound driver will have actually driven slightly farther than a southbound driver.
The question is, Is figure of 18.35 for the bridge measured along the northbound lanes, southbound lanes or some "neutral" line (i.e. median)? This guide hints a neutral line, as most mileage figures are followed by a code "C" or "N", however the bridge figure is followed by a code "A". Unfortunately there is no legend; however, it's fairly obvious that C= Cardinal (i.e. Northbound lanes), N = Non-Cardinal (i.e. Southbound Lanes). If I had to guess A = "Average". This also means that the "best" figure for statewide length is 29.4, and someone was correct to round the figures to the nearest level where they agree. For the record, what I've done for longer roads (where I don't want to spend the hours to decode all this crap) is just use the figures for what AZ calls the cardinal direction. However, I see why this was complicated, Utah and Colorado make this slightly easier to do, as their formatting for this information is easier to follow. Dave ( talk) 23:26, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
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Love the images, but there's too many as is. Need a gallery, or to put some at commons. -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 06:11, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I am glad to report that this article nominee for good article status has been promoted. This is how the article, as of August 14, 2007, compares against the six good article criteria:
If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to a GA review. Thank you to all of the editors who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations. Senators Talk | Contribs 22:42, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
The bridges carrying I-15 over the Virgin River in Arizona are numbered from 1 to 7, increasing in number in the northbound direction. The original plans called for 7 separate bridges; however, a change order during construction combined Bridges 2 & 3 into a single continuous bridge from milepost 13.12 to 13.43. ADOT record systems still continue to keep separate entries for the two bridge segments, since they use slightly different structure types and details, but the reality is that there are only six actual bridges (abutment to abutment) on I-15 in Arizona, and four in the heart of the gorge. RCMoeur ( talk) 00:29, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
We might want to change the images; the two Cedar Pocket ones are very similar. We should probably move them to Commons too so we can link to the others. -- NE2 14:03, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I came here to say that too - the two ones at Cedar Pocket are virtally identical bar the weather conditions. Greater variety of images should be used, especially in a FA - it's a long road!. 81.156.126.30 ( talk) 08:39, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
I-15 wouldn't be Transcontinental as stated in the first line, seeing as it runs north south and not east west across the continent. If anything it is trans-national. Bigal888 ( talk) 17:19, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
this was a featured article ru high? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.18.171.153 ( talk) 02:10, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
A couple users have reverted my edits to the exit list and the mileage length. Maybe these users don't "agree" with these numbers, but I took them directly from ADOT Highway Log [2] so I don't see how there can be a dispute from them. At the bottom of page 99, it clearly states "29.39" for the total number of miles. It has been reverted to 29.3 and I'm not sure why, since this source clearly indicated otherwise. All my changes have been clearly cited - I would not make such changes without a citation in the first place. The mile marker for exits 9 and 18 have also been reverted. The log says the following:
Exit | On-ramp marker | Off-ramp marker |
---|---|---|
Farm Rd (9) | 9.83 | 10.03 |
Cedar Pocket (18) | 18.32 | 18.60 |
I don't see how the mile marker for these exits can be higher or lower than these numbers since the interchange can't take place before or after the on-/off-ramps. If there is a source that does say otherwise, then cite it properly, which does not mean to add a hidden comment next to the information. – Dream out loud ( talk) 15:42, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Here is what I see for mileage figures at exit 18 and the Utah/Arizona State line:
IMO the appropriate figure to use for exit 18 is 18.35. I think I know what you are missing. Remember that when two essentially parallel carriageways or roadbeds that both make a 90 degree curve, one roadbed will be slightly longer that the other, due to the differences in the radii of curvature. Specifically the roadbed on the inside of the curve will be slightly shorter. So if mileages are measured along the roadbed for that direction of travel (which is what ADOT has done) the mileages for the same feature will NOT line up. The only way to make them lineup is if the distances along both roadbeds are measured along a common line, such as the median. However, in mountainous terrain, where the distance between the median and each roadbed can vary significantly, this is not always practical. What those figures tell me is that a car driving from the NV/AZ state line to the bridge for exit 18 will have actually traveled slightly less than a car making the opposite drive on the southbound lanes. However the situation reverses itself by the time that northbound driver reaches the Utah state line. For the entire drive across the state, a northbound driver will have actually driven slightly farther than a southbound driver.
The question is, Is figure of 18.35 for the bridge measured along the northbound lanes, southbound lanes or some "neutral" line (i.e. median)? This guide hints a neutral line, as most mileage figures are followed by a code "C" or "N", however the bridge figure is followed by a code "A". Unfortunately there is no legend; however, it's fairly obvious that C= Cardinal (i.e. Northbound lanes), N = Non-Cardinal (i.e. Southbound Lanes). If I had to guess A = "Average". This also means that the "best" figure for statewide length is 29.4, and someone was correct to round the figures to the nearest level where they agree. For the record, what I've done for longer roads (where I don't want to spend the hours to decode all this crap) is just use the figures for what AZ calls the cardinal direction. However, I see why this was complicated, Utah and Colorado make this slightly easier to do, as their formatting for this information is easier to follow. Dave ( talk) 23:26, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
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