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![]() | On 1 April 2014, it was proposed that this article be moved from Italian-American internment to Internment of Italian Americans. The result of the discussion was moved. |
The original stub sentence contained the claim that "hundreds of thousands of citizens of Italian descent" were interned. With all due respect, my research did not substantiate the severity of that claim. I have no axe to grind and tried to write as NPOV and honest an account as I could. The article certainly needs work, especially the lead--and probably elsewhere. I welcome all comments and help. Jeffmatt 07:44, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
The claim of "hundreds of thousands of citizens of Italian descent" is absurd, but one of the most important facts regarding this topic is the number of Italian residents interned, broken down according to citizens and noncitizens. At present, the article contains no hint of these numbers. This fact has become even more important to be included in the article as a result of the recent decision by the nationally influential Texas Board of Education to require history textbooks to include a discussion of German and Italian internment as "proof" that racism was not relevant to internment in WW2 ( New York Times, 3/14/2010). Aftermath ( talk) 17:55, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
JCDenton2052 has improperly categorized this as a " War crime", notwithstanding the fact that it does not match the guidelines for the related topic. Looks like excessive POV-editing, which is not helped by his frequent edits of user pages accusing other editors of vandalism. Tedickey ( talk) 18:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
"Defined in terms of national origin, it was the largest community in the United States, having been supplied by a steady flow of immigrants from Italy between the 1880s and 1930."
Americans of German, Irish, and English heritage have always been more numerous than Italian Americans. If this statement is supposed apply to the number of naturalized immigrants from the country of Italy during the 1940s compared to the number of immigrants from other countries living during the 1940s, which very well could be the case, it isn't very clear. -- 98.114.176.218 ( talk) 02:53, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Unfortunately, this article repeats the same claim that only "enemy aliens," i.e. non-naturalized or native-born Italian Americans, were rounded up, by pointing to a short New York Times article. Actually, the record shows otherwise, as mentioned in the Congressional report listed. I know I'm just wasting my breath saying this, but if you actually want to write an encyclopedia, there are better resources to use than newspaper articles written on a tight deadline, namely primary sources such as FBI records, and the DOJ investigative report. The person who wrote this line apparently posted a similar line in the German-American internment article, too, with no proof at all. 66.102.16.25 ( talk) 23:10, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
There should be a clear statement of the numbers (Italian US citizens and foreign citizens) provided in the article. Both articles for the German and Japanese articles make these numbers clear. I would also suggest that such statements should be found in the lede as the numbers are probably fairly high on what people are interested in when they come to each of these articles. Would it also make sense to have the numbers in the infobox (we have then when, but not the how many). — al-Shimoni ( talk) 13:11, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:German-American internment which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 20:59, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Docile words in the article when discussing extermination camps in which thousands of italians, germans and japaneses dissappeared during World War 2. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.178.44.111 ( talk) 02:40, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
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![]() | On 1 April 2014, it was proposed that this article be moved from Italian-American internment to Internment of Italian Americans. The result of the discussion was moved. |
The original stub sentence contained the claim that "hundreds of thousands of citizens of Italian descent" were interned. With all due respect, my research did not substantiate the severity of that claim. I have no axe to grind and tried to write as NPOV and honest an account as I could. The article certainly needs work, especially the lead--and probably elsewhere. I welcome all comments and help. Jeffmatt 07:44, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
The claim of "hundreds of thousands of citizens of Italian descent" is absurd, but one of the most important facts regarding this topic is the number of Italian residents interned, broken down according to citizens and noncitizens. At present, the article contains no hint of these numbers. This fact has become even more important to be included in the article as a result of the recent decision by the nationally influential Texas Board of Education to require history textbooks to include a discussion of German and Italian internment as "proof" that racism was not relevant to internment in WW2 ( New York Times, 3/14/2010). Aftermath ( talk) 17:55, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
JCDenton2052 has improperly categorized this as a " War crime", notwithstanding the fact that it does not match the guidelines for the related topic. Looks like excessive POV-editing, which is not helped by his frequent edits of user pages accusing other editors of vandalism. Tedickey ( talk) 18:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
"Defined in terms of national origin, it was the largest community in the United States, having been supplied by a steady flow of immigrants from Italy between the 1880s and 1930."
Americans of German, Irish, and English heritage have always been more numerous than Italian Americans. If this statement is supposed apply to the number of naturalized immigrants from the country of Italy during the 1940s compared to the number of immigrants from other countries living during the 1940s, which very well could be the case, it isn't very clear. -- 98.114.176.218 ( talk) 02:53, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Unfortunately, this article repeats the same claim that only "enemy aliens," i.e. non-naturalized or native-born Italian Americans, were rounded up, by pointing to a short New York Times article. Actually, the record shows otherwise, as mentioned in the Congressional report listed. I know I'm just wasting my breath saying this, but if you actually want to write an encyclopedia, there are better resources to use than newspaper articles written on a tight deadline, namely primary sources such as FBI records, and the DOJ investigative report. The person who wrote this line apparently posted a similar line in the German-American internment article, too, with no proof at all. 66.102.16.25 ( talk) 23:10, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
There should be a clear statement of the numbers (Italian US citizens and foreign citizens) provided in the article. Both articles for the German and Japanese articles make these numbers clear. I would also suggest that such statements should be found in the lede as the numbers are probably fairly high on what people are interested in when they come to each of these articles. Would it also make sense to have the numbers in the infobox (we have then when, but not the how many). — al-Shimoni ( talk) 13:11, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:German-American internment which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 20:59, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Docile words in the article when discussing extermination camps in which thousands of italians, germans and japaneses dissappeared during World War 2. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.178.44.111 ( talk) 02:40, 6 January 2018 (UTC)