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There are some dubious factual claims in the Overview section and I think the use of scare-quotes around International in the International Communist Party is highly POV. The factual claims I take issue with are:
The article cited is not a neutral source, and another article on leftcom.org [1] in fact explicitly contradicts these claims.-- Masque ( talk) 03:23, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
The relationship between the article on Bordiga, the article on the International Communist Party, and this article on the Internationalist Communist Party, is a mess. My understanding is that (contra to the Bordiga article) the party formed in 1943 was the Internationalist Communist Party (ie, the subject of this article); that Bordiga joined the Internationalist Communist Party either in the late 1940s or early 1950s, and that Bordiga's group then split from the Internationalist Communist Party to form the International Communist Party in 1953. If anyone has information that is different, I'd be pleased to know about it. Markaeologist ( talk) 14:48, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
Right now this page says:
>The origins of the party can be traced back to the Left Fraction which, between 1921-6, held a majority within the Communist Party of Italy. The International Communist Party itself was founded in 1943 by Onorato Damen and the group of revolutionaries around the journal Prometeo. It denounced the Second World War as imperialist and took an active part in the strike wave that shook northern Italy at the end of 1943. In 1952 Amadeo Bordiga split the party to form his own International Communist Party
(My bold)
Note that BOTH of those links to "International Communist Party" link to the SAME PAGE on the SAME PARTY. So, which is it then? Who DID found that party and in what year? Furthermore, when and by whom was THIS party founded? You know, the one the page is actually supposed to be about?
If I click the links to the respective official websites of the parties, as well as read how they are described here, the party described on this page SOUNDS more "Damenist", while the other one, the one linked to above, certainly sounds quite "Bordigist", but, either way, this page is just contradicting itself! StrexcorpEmployee ( talk) 16:43, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
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There are some dubious factual claims in the Overview section and I think the use of scare-quotes around International in the International Communist Party is highly POV. The factual claims I take issue with are:
The article cited is not a neutral source, and another article on leftcom.org [1] in fact explicitly contradicts these claims.-- Masque ( talk) 03:23, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
The relationship between the article on Bordiga, the article on the International Communist Party, and this article on the Internationalist Communist Party, is a mess. My understanding is that (contra to the Bordiga article) the party formed in 1943 was the Internationalist Communist Party (ie, the subject of this article); that Bordiga joined the Internationalist Communist Party either in the late 1940s or early 1950s, and that Bordiga's group then split from the Internationalist Communist Party to form the International Communist Party in 1953. If anyone has information that is different, I'd be pleased to know about it. Markaeologist ( talk) 14:48, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
Right now this page says:
>The origins of the party can be traced back to the Left Fraction which, between 1921-6, held a majority within the Communist Party of Italy. The International Communist Party itself was founded in 1943 by Onorato Damen and the group of revolutionaries around the journal Prometeo. It denounced the Second World War as imperialist and took an active part in the strike wave that shook northern Italy at the end of 1943. In 1952 Amadeo Bordiga split the party to form his own International Communist Party
(My bold)
Note that BOTH of those links to "International Communist Party" link to the SAME PAGE on the SAME PARTY. So, which is it then? Who DID found that party and in what year? Furthermore, when and by whom was THIS party founded? You know, the one the page is actually supposed to be about?
If I click the links to the respective official websites of the parties, as well as read how they are described here, the party described on this page SOUNDS more "Damenist", while the other one, the one linked to above, certainly sounds quite "Bordigist", but, either way, this page is just contradicting itself! StrexcorpEmployee ( talk) 16:43, 27 February 2023 (UTC)