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I can't find any info on this executive order which freezes Libyan assets and declares a national emergency: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/2011libya.eo_.rel_.pdf What are the ramifications? Historical Precedents? It isn't on any major news source that I can find yet... Spreggo ( talk) 16:58, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Should we create a new sub-section for countries that have cut relations with Libya now that Peru has, or simply move those states to the top of the list? user:mnw2000 18:48, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
The USA has cut Canada suspended and Mexico neither 86.26.79.254 ( talk) 10:06, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
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In the map, Chad is shown as taking sides with Gaddafi. Nothing is mentioned of this in the article, and someone really needs to provide a citation that this is true. After all, to put it mildly, Chad versus Gaddafi relations have historically been extremely problematic (see e.g., Chadian–Libyan conflict), and it was only in 2007 a few of the final major Chadian groups signed a peace treaty with Libya. Sure there have been recent attempts of increasing peaceful co-existence in the region, but that's a long way from them supporting Gaddafi during this mess. Keep in mind that just because some of Gaddafi's mercenaries (supposedly) are from Chad, that does not mean the country supports Gaddafi (otherwise we should add South Africa to the supporters of Gaddafi, as some of his mercenaries supposedly are from that country; based on the little info that has escaped, he has mercenaries from large parts of Sub-Saharan Africa, notably the Sahel and expats from the Congo wars). Unless someone can provide a citation that Chad–the country–supports Gaddafi in this conflict, Chad should be removed as a supporting nation on the map. 62.107.209.191 ( talk) 09:26, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Prior to international reaction being moved to its own page here, the Egypt reaction was moved out of that section as it wasn't from a voice of someone who represents an official of the country authorized to speak on its behalf, which is what this section is for. That Egypt reaction has been reinstated here for some reason. Please remove it as the person making the statement is not an official spokesman for the country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.203.19.1 ( talk) 15:55, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Done Kevdav63 ( talk) 20:56, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
per this page and the MENA page where Western Sahara is part of Morocco (and more reocnigsed than kosovo) and Palestine is not termed as such (again more reognition and declaration of independece) then we cant go about labeling kosovo as its own entity because that is pov (where Palestine is not labeled on this page either). Lihaas ( talk) 00:20, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
I take exception to shoving non-UN member states down to the bottom and out of the categories of their respective continents. Usually these sorts of changes are made by editors trying to strike at the legitimacy of one of the listed governments. - Canadian Bobby ( talk) 19:45, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-to-let-300-palestinians-return-to-west-bank-from-libya-1.345272 -- Israel allowed 300 Palestinians to go from Libya to the West Bank. It's very small compared to the total there, but it's something and it's a reaction to the situation there. Ha'aretz is a liberal paper btw (some more conservative Israelis (and Ultra-Zionist Jews such as moi) would say the voice of the PA or at least not a good paper for Israel). TheArchaeologist Say Herro 03:51, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Why does this article inhabit Category:2010–2011 Arab world protests ? It is the only non-main article which has its own category to exist in that does this. Every other international reactions article only inhabits the subcategory (in this case it would be Category:2011 Libyan protests ). This clearly should be diffused into the subcategory, and not be in the main category. 65.93.15.125 ( talk) 05:14, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
getting a little long. i propose removing the mesia part, adding more to clean it and then adding it to some other page. Lihaas ( talk) 07:54, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
I have found the relevant UN Security Council resolution online at http://www.dipublico.com.ar/english/news/full-text-of-resolution-1970-2011-libya/ which is fortunate because it doesn't seem to have appeared on the (apparently underfunded) UN website yet. I've added a reference in the text of this article, but it would be good if someone with time and knowledge could begin work on an article for United Nations Security Council Resolution 1970, summing up its provisions and saying something about its political context (tricky business of getting states which oppose the ICC to agree to Libya's referral to it, etc.) Hope this helps 82.46.43.33 ( talk) 17:08, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
a good edit shortened the quopte (we needed a 2nd eye), but i added back a little more and NOT the whole agenda/quotefarm for just a little context, the fact of an oncoming clash is pertinent to reaction here as you can see the reactions change by region. Lihaas ( talk) 01:09, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Can anyone see what reactions these governments have had if any? It's not very important I know, but still (fill in the blank). I found this little one on a Morroccan site claiming hundreds of Western Sahara soldiers are fighting as mercs in Libya, but the bias is pretty obvious. This is the only source I can find on them though. Too sleepy to look for the others though. By Russian Satellites I mean South Ossetia, Abkhazia, that little breakaway area in Moldova etc. TheArchaeologist Say Herro 23:13, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
User:Närking found this story from a source called SIPRI about Gadaffi's son taking various items to Belarus and trading them for arms: http://www.charter97.org/en/news/2011/3/1/36417/ Look like a good source? Anyone want to add info, if so, under Belarus? TheArchaeologist Say Herro 23:49, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
All we have are Hamas reactions, not the PA (the lesser of two evils to me =p). Here is a report in the Centrist Jerusalem Post citing the PA's Security Chief about 43 PA Policemen training in Libya trying to get home. [2] There is also an article from the Palestinian News Agency about the PA trying to get 104 Palestinian students from Gaza and the West Bank out of Libya. [3] Thanks. TheArchaeologist Say Herro 04:20, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
Eight members of the SAS were captured by the rebels while escorting a secret diplomatic mission and the delegation is returning home now. The rebels were concerned they might give Gadaffi an excuse for more evil. [5] [6] [7] [8] Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie, AKA TheArchaeologist Say Herro 20:24, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Russia, China, India, Brazil and Germany were abstainers. Germany and Russia are Pro-Libya. All others voted to make a NFZ and protect civilians[ [9]] Military strikes against Libya will take place "swiftly" and France will definitely participate, according to the French government spokesman Francois Baroin said in an interview on the 18th with RTL radio.[ [10]]
Nation | United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973 Vote | Political Side |
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France[ BBC News] [ [11] | Yes | Rebels |
Bosnia-Hercegovina[ BBC News] [ [12] | Yes | Rebels |
Colombia[ BBC News] [ [13] | Yes | Rebels |
Gabon[ BBC News] [ [14] | Yes | Rebels |
Nigeria[ BBC News] [ [15] | Yes | Rebels |
Lebanon[ BBC News] [ [16] | Yes | Rebels |
Portugal[ BBC News] [ [17] | Yes | Rebels |
South Africa[ BBC News] [ [18] | Yes | Rebels |
United Kingdom[ BBC News] [ [19] | Yes | Rebels |
United States[ BBC News] [ [20] | A reluctant yes | Undecided |
Brazil[[ The Guardian Live Blog | Abstain | Neutral |
Germany[[ The Guardian Live Blog | A reluctant abstain | Pro-Gadhafi |
India[[ The Guardian Live Blog | Abstain | Neutral |
China[[ The Guardian Live Blog | Abstain | Neutral |
Russia[[ The Guardian Live Blog | A reluctant abstain | Pro-Gadhafi |
Wipsenade ( talk) 10:11, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
We should specifically note if countries have closed their embassies in Tripoli or not. It has been done for some countries, but many more have taken this step and it's not mentioned in the respective reactions. - Canadian Bobby ( talk) 18:28, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
Illegal arms exports? Wipsenade ( talk) 15:08, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
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I think this page should be moved to "International reactions to the 2011 Libyan civil war" now that the main article has moved. - Kudzu1 ( talk) 08:14, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
Someone please update the page to reflect this [21] - Canadian Bobby ( talk) 21:24, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Would it be possible for someone with better graphical skills than me to build a global map identifying which counties recognize the Gaddafi government and which recognize the National Transnational Council (presumably in green and red respectively based on the colors of the respective flags)? Or failing that perhaps a table identifying who has recognized the Council and when they recognized them?-- Ndunruh ( talk) 23:51, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
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Why is this not a section of the article on the 2011 Libyan Civil War? I don't think it should be its own article. Edinyuma ( talk) 16:48, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
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I can't find any info on this executive order which freezes Libyan assets and declares a national emergency: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/2011libya.eo_.rel_.pdf What are the ramifications? Historical Precedents? It isn't on any major news source that I can find yet... Spreggo ( talk) 16:58, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Should we create a new sub-section for countries that have cut relations with Libya now that Peru has, or simply move those states to the top of the list? user:mnw2000 18:48, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
The USA has cut Canada suspended and Mexico neither 86.26.79.254 ( talk) 10:06, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
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In the map, Chad is shown as taking sides with Gaddafi. Nothing is mentioned of this in the article, and someone really needs to provide a citation that this is true. After all, to put it mildly, Chad versus Gaddafi relations have historically been extremely problematic (see e.g., Chadian–Libyan conflict), and it was only in 2007 a few of the final major Chadian groups signed a peace treaty with Libya. Sure there have been recent attempts of increasing peaceful co-existence in the region, but that's a long way from them supporting Gaddafi during this mess. Keep in mind that just because some of Gaddafi's mercenaries (supposedly) are from Chad, that does not mean the country supports Gaddafi (otherwise we should add South Africa to the supporters of Gaddafi, as some of his mercenaries supposedly are from that country; based on the little info that has escaped, he has mercenaries from large parts of Sub-Saharan Africa, notably the Sahel and expats from the Congo wars). Unless someone can provide a citation that Chad–the country–supports Gaddafi in this conflict, Chad should be removed as a supporting nation on the map. 62.107.209.191 ( talk) 09:26, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Prior to international reaction being moved to its own page here, the Egypt reaction was moved out of that section as it wasn't from a voice of someone who represents an official of the country authorized to speak on its behalf, which is what this section is for. That Egypt reaction has been reinstated here for some reason. Please remove it as the person making the statement is not an official spokesman for the country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.203.19.1 ( talk) 15:55, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Done Kevdav63 ( talk) 20:56, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
per this page and the MENA page where Western Sahara is part of Morocco (and more reocnigsed than kosovo) and Palestine is not termed as such (again more reognition and declaration of independece) then we cant go about labeling kosovo as its own entity because that is pov (where Palestine is not labeled on this page either). Lihaas ( talk) 00:20, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
I take exception to shoving non-UN member states down to the bottom and out of the categories of their respective continents. Usually these sorts of changes are made by editors trying to strike at the legitimacy of one of the listed governments. - Canadian Bobby ( talk) 19:45, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-to-let-300-palestinians-return-to-west-bank-from-libya-1.345272 -- Israel allowed 300 Palestinians to go from Libya to the West Bank. It's very small compared to the total there, but it's something and it's a reaction to the situation there. Ha'aretz is a liberal paper btw (some more conservative Israelis (and Ultra-Zionist Jews such as moi) would say the voice of the PA or at least not a good paper for Israel). TheArchaeologist Say Herro 03:51, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Why does this article inhabit Category:2010–2011 Arab world protests ? It is the only non-main article which has its own category to exist in that does this. Every other international reactions article only inhabits the subcategory (in this case it would be Category:2011 Libyan protests ). This clearly should be diffused into the subcategory, and not be in the main category. 65.93.15.125 ( talk) 05:14, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
getting a little long. i propose removing the mesia part, adding more to clean it and then adding it to some other page. Lihaas ( talk) 07:54, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
I have found the relevant UN Security Council resolution online at http://www.dipublico.com.ar/english/news/full-text-of-resolution-1970-2011-libya/ which is fortunate because it doesn't seem to have appeared on the (apparently underfunded) UN website yet. I've added a reference in the text of this article, but it would be good if someone with time and knowledge could begin work on an article for United Nations Security Council Resolution 1970, summing up its provisions and saying something about its political context (tricky business of getting states which oppose the ICC to agree to Libya's referral to it, etc.) Hope this helps 82.46.43.33 ( talk) 17:08, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
a good edit shortened the quopte (we needed a 2nd eye), but i added back a little more and NOT the whole agenda/quotefarm for just a little context, the fact of an oncoming clash is pertinent to reaction here as you can see the reactions change by region. Lihaas ( talk) 01:09, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Can anyone see what reactions these governments have had if any? It's not very important I know, but still (fill in the blank). I found this little one on a Morroccan site claiming hundreds of Western Sahara soldiers are fighting as mercs in Libya, but the bias is pretty obvious. This is the only source I can find on them though. Too sleepy to look for the others though. By Russian Satellites I mean South Ossetia, Abkhazia, that little breakaway area in Moldova etc. TheArchaeologist Say Herro 23:13, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
User:Närking found this story from a source called SIPRI about Gadaffi's son taking various items to Belarus and trading them for arms: http://www.charter97.org/en/news/2011/3/1/36417/ Look like a good source? Anyone want to add info, if so, under Belarus? TheArchaeologist Say Herro 23:49, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
All we have are Hamas reactions, not the PA (the lesser of two evils to me =p). Here is a report in the Centrist Jerusalem Post citing the PA's Security Chief about 43 PA Policemen training in Libya trying to get home. [2] There is also an article from the Palestinian News Agency about the PA trying to get 104 Palestinian students from Gaza and the West Bank out of Libya. [3] Thanks. TheArchaeologist Say Herro 04:20, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
Eight members of the SAS were captured by the rebels while escorting a secret diplomatic mission and the delegation is returning home now. The rebels were concerned they might give Gadaffi an excuse for more evil. [5] [6] [7] [8] Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie, AKA TheArchaeologist Say Herro 20:24, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Russia, China, India, Brazil and Germany were abstainers. Germany and Russia are Pro-Libya. All others voted to make a NFZ and protect civilians[ [9]] Military strikes against Libya will take place "swiftly" and France will definitely participate, according to the French government spokesman Francois Baroin said in an interview on the 18th with RTL radio.[ [10]]
Nation | United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973 Vote | Political Side |
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France[ BBC News] [ [11] | Yes | Rebels |
Bosnia-Hercegovina[ BBC News] [ [12] | Yes | Rebels |
Colombia[ BBC News] [ [13] | Yes | Rebels |
Gabon[ BBC News] [ [14] | Yes | Rebels |
Nigeria[ BBC News] [ [15] | Yes | Rebels |
Lebanon[ BBC News] [ [16] | Yes | Rebels |
Portugal[ BBC News] [ [17] | Yes | Rebels |
South Africa[ BBC News] [ [18] | Yes | Rebels |
United Kingdom[ BBC News] [ [19] | Yes | Rebels |
United States[ BBC News] [ [20] | A reluctant yes | Undecided |
Brazil[[ The Guardian Live Blog | Abstain | Neutral |
Germany[[ The Guardian Live Blog | A reluctant abstain | Pro-Gadhafi |
India[[ The Guardian Live Blog | Abstain | Neutral |
China[[ The Guardian Live Blog | Abstain | Neutral |
Russia[[ The Guardian Live Blog | A reluctant abstain | Pro-Gadhafi |
Wipsenade ( talk) 10:11, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
We should specifically note if countries have closed their embassies in Tripoli or not. It has been done for some countries, but many more have taken this step and it's not mentioned in the respective reactions. - Canadian Bobby ( talk) 18:28, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
Illegal arms exports? Wipsenade ( talk) 15:08, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
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I think this page should be moved to "International reactions to the 2011 Libyan civil war" now that the main article has moved. - Kudzu1 ( talk) 08:14, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
Someone please update the page to reflect this [21] - Canadian Bobby ( talk) 21:24, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Would it be possible for someone with better graphical skills than me to build a global map identifying which counties recognize the Gaddafi government and which recognize the National Transnational Council (presumably in green and red respectively based on the colors of the respective flags)? Or failing that perhaps a table identifying who has recognized the Council and when they recognized them?-- Ndunruh ( talk) 23:51, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
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Why is this not a section of the article on the 2011 Libyan Civil War? I don't think it should be its own article. Edinyuma ( talk) 16:48, 20 May 2021 (UTC)