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Is there a reason why the name in Japanese is notable for inclusion? It's not headquartered in Japan, nor does a Japanese company have a stake in it. I'd remove it, but I don't feel right doing so unilaterally. I'll wait a couple days, and if nobody has any objections, I'll do so then. -- MicahBrwn ( talk) 20:59, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Lets start analyzing this. Why is truth and clarifity so objected to in wikipedia.
International Airlines Group is not an certificated airline
yes or no?
but a multinational "holding" corporation.
yes or no?
This European holding company device differs from the holding company devices on the North American continent
yes or no?
in the sense it simply is a business device to overcome national investment boundaries.
yes or no?
In the United States, such holding company devices were initially used to assist business investment and acquisitions,
yes or no?
but soon after the advent of airline deregulation law signed by President Jimmy Carter,
yes or no?
were manipulated, corrupted and turned into union busting organizations
yes or no?
by the likes of private equity hedge fund capitalists and individuals such as
yes or no?
yes or no?
yes or no?
and robber baron (industrialist)s Carl Icahn
yes or no?
yes or no? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.200.137.22 ( talk) 19:35, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
- NO not discussing just pointing out facts —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.200.137.22 ( talk) 00:54, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
I have raised the issue of adding the fleet of subsidaries at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Airlines#Fleets in holding company_articles, thanks. MilborneOne ( talk) 11:17, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Normally, the first keyman in a company is the Chairman, so Chairman could be the first in the list and the CEO the second one.
Guttyvic ( talk) 22:15, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
WhisperToMe ( talk) 22:18, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
I changed the fleet list back to the originally summary but I have been reverted, the IAG has no aircraft and a detailed list is not really needed here. All the individual airlines each have detailed fleet information we have need to repeat or maintain it here. Refer also comment from 2010 when the fleet list was first changed to a summary. Note that IAG is a holding company not an airline. Suggest it is removed and reverted back to a summary. MilborneOne ( talk) 18:19, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
IMO there is no need for a fleet list here. This is a company that owns some airlines, not an airline. The same goes for Air France - KLM. YSSYguy ( talk) 06:33, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
I agree with MilborneOne on this one. As IAG are the holding company, there is no need to list the fleet numbers for each airline in the article, they can stay in the individual articles. Cloudbound ( talk) 20:28, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
I would agree with Rangoon11 on this, I have made some changes so that it is now correct for a specific date, but i would include a table to show all the planes which it has under the various subsidiaries. Each year IAG provide a table with all the info, like the one i used as a reference, so maintaining it would be quite easy to do once a year. NBNK1 ( talk) 19:18, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
"Morocco Royal Air Maroc (0.95% stake) Mauritius Air Mauritius (2.3% stake)" Could someone confirm this, with a reference 2.123.131.244 ( talk) 10:47, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
I now understand that the Royal Air Maroc stake is held by Iberia what about Air Mauritius? 2.123.131.244 ( talk) 13:02, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
Why aren't there those red and green arrows showing financial data? Njaohnt ( talk) 00:13, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
User 82.32.116.24 and I have recently been reverting each other's edits concerning constructions like " London, England, UK", both here and in other articles. 82.32.116.24 appears to have accepted that London should not be wikilinked (see WP:OVERLINKING). My view is that we can expect our readers to know where London is, and where England is, and that we should not state the obvious. The same applies to Madrid. I favour having simply "London", but would settle on either "London, UK" or "London, England". 82.32.116.24's latest edit has the summary "It was fine for months until May 29th" which is an extremely poor argument. Note that we have "British Airways" in the infobox. I will change the infobox to London and Madrid, but I am happy to discuss this here. This may be a trivial issue, but discussion is preferable to edit warring. Verbcatcher ( talk) 23:17, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
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Is there a reason why the name in Japanese is notable for inclusion? It's not headquartered in Japan, nor does a Japanese company have a stake in it. I'd remove it, but I don't feel right doing so unilaterally. I'll wait a couple days, and if nobody has any objections, I'll do so then. -- MicahBrwn ( talk) 20:59, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Lets start analyzing this. Why is truth and clarifity so objected to in wikipedia.
International Airlines Group is not an certificated airline
yes or no?
but a multinational "holding" corporation.
yes or no?
This European holding company device differs from the holding company devices on the North American continent
yes or no?
in the sense it simply is a business device to overcome national investment boundaries.
yes or no?
In the United States, such holding company devices were initially used to assist business investment and acquisitions,
yes or no?
but soon after the advent of airline deregulation law signed by President Jimmy Carter,
yes or no?
were manipulated, corrupted and turned into union busting organizations
yes or no?
by the likes of private equity hedge fund capitalists and individuals such as
yes or no?
yes or no?
yes or no?
and robber baron (industrialist)s Carl Icahn
yes or no?
yes or no? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.200.137.22 ( talk) 19:35, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
- NO not discussing just pointing out facts —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.200.137.22 ( talk) 00:54, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
I have raised the issue of adding the fleet of subsidaries at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Airlines#Fleets in holding company_articles, thanks. MilborneOne ( talk) 11:17, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Normally, the first keyman in a company is the Chairman, so Chairman could be the first in the list and the CEO the second one.
Guttyvic ( talk) 22:15, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
WhisperToMe ( talk) 22:18, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
I changed the fleet list back to the originally summary but I have been reverted, the IAG has no aircraft and a detailed list is not really needed here. All the individual airlines each have detailed fleet information we have need to repeat or maintain it here. Refer also comment from 2010 when the fleet list was first changed to a summary. Note that IAG is a holding company not an airline. Suggest it is removed and reverted back to a summary. MilborneOne ( talk) 18:19, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
IMO there is no need for a fleet list here. This is a company that owns some airlines, not an airline. The same goes for Air France - KLM. YSSYguy ( talk) 06:33, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
I agree with MilborneOne on this one. As IAG are the holding company, there is no need to list the fleet numbers for each airline in the article, they can stay in the individual articles. Cloudbound ( talk) 20:28, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
I would agree with Rangoon11 on this, I have made some changes so that it is now correct for a specific date, but i would include a table to show all the planes which it has under the various subsidiaries. Each year IAG provide a table with all the info, like the one i used as a reference, so maintaining it would be quite easy to do once a year. NBNK1 ( talk) 19:18, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
"Morocco Royal Air Maroc (0.95% stake) Mauritius Air Mauritius (2.3% stake)" Could someone confirm this, with a reference 2.123.131.244 ( talk) 10:47, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
I now understand that the Royal Air Maroc stake is held by Iberia what about Air Mauritius? 2.123.131.244 ( talk) 13:02, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
Why aren't there those red and green arrows showing financial data? Njaohnt ( talk) 00:13, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
User 82.32.116.24 and I have recently been reverting each other's edits concerning constructions like " London, England, UK", both here and in other articles. 82.32.116.24 appears to have accepted that London should not be wikilinked (see WP:OVERLINKING). My view is that we can expect our readers to know where London is, and where England is, and that we should not state the obvious. The same applies to Madrid. I favour having simply "London", but would settle on either "London, UK" or "London, England". 82.32.116.24's latest edit has the summary "It was fine for months until May 29th" which is an extremely poor argument. Note that we have "British Airways" in the infobox. I will change the infobox to London and Madrid, but I am happy to discuss this here. This may be a trivial issue, but discussion is preferable to edit warring. Verbcatcher ( talk) 23:17, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
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