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(Although groups like the Beach Boys and Jan and Dean were identified with surfing as subject matter, they are usually called ' surf pop' and not considered surf music proper.)
I don't think that's true, the rise of groups like The Surfaris that were equally competent in both surf pop and surf instrumental music made it more logical to see it as a single genre. See surf music for this more developed. Andrewa 13:04, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Moved the introductory paragraph into a body tag titled "History of Instrumental Rock", separated the list of instrumental rock musicians into bands and separate artists, and added a small section on Modern Instrumental rock. Removed reference to a few bands who are not within the instrumental rock genre.
Would appreciate more info on instrumental rock bands, particularly modern ones.
Also added a quick sentence or two on television theme songs, which often are instrumental. More examples would be great.
Clockwise music 06:06, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
I have removed the "After the poor reviews of Cacophony's sophomore album Go Off! in 1988" line, as I think a few citations would be needed to make this claim. Can anyone find any poor reviews of "Go Off" dated to 1988?
Other than that the anonymous tidy-ups were very good - thanks mr mystery (wo)man! Clockwise music 02:17, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
I removed The Fucking Champs from the opening. They are an indie stationed in Calfornia and do not have much notoriety elsewhere. I replaced them with Trans-Siberian Orchestra which is much more well known. I also added that some bands like Metallica and Rush also record instrumental tracks and enjoy much success. Aurocker49 21:16, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
This is mostly for User:Laneo12345 but others should add their input as well. I would argue that The Shadows and Fleetwood Mac should not be included with artists who are primarily known for instrumental music. In particular, I disagree with the claim that The Shadows "specialize in the style", especially since they are listed as an "instrumental and vocal rock and roll group" in their article, which also mentions numerous vocal releases. In a similar vein, I've never heard it claimed that Fleetwood Mac are "noted for instrumentals". Now I'm not claiming that these bands don't do instrumental tracks, which they clearly do, they're just not known for it like the rest of the bands listed in the opening paragraphs. Thoughts? Wyatt Riot ( talk) 13:21, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:“Hank B. Marvin, is an English guitarist, lead guitarist for The Shadows. The group, which primarily performed instrumentals, was formed as a backing band for singer Cliff Richard.”- From Hank Marvin page.
[[User: Laneo12345( talk) 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Wyatt Riot ( talk)
eg. Family Man and The Process of Weeding Out.
Should this be mentioned?
-- The Laxative ( talk) 17:25, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
There is an Allman Brothers mention, but what else should be done in this article's treatment of rock bands who aren't Instrumental Rock -focused but who do instrumental songs occasionally? Specifically, I'm thinking of "Moby Dick", the John Bonham extended drum solo, and "Orion" from Metallica's "Master of Puppets"
KingAlanI ( talk) 03:06, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Instrumental rock is a type of rock and roll which emphasizes musical instruments, and which features no or very little singing.
Rock music is 60's, Instrumental rock is 1958. Can you change this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mago266 ( talk • contribs) 20:27, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Hello everyone. I recently added Animals as Leaders to the article as they compose and produce instrumental metal music exclusively. My edit was reverted by User:Sabrebd though, apparently because to him, my edit looked like an advertisement. Only in '2000s' section, mentioned are various artists without any references to cover their notability. I'm wondering, what is different this time about my edit? Thanks. -- Λeternus (talk) 12:14, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Numerous instrumental metal acts are mentioned in the article, but there is no reference to them being metal acts, and there is no mention of the instrumental metal scene in general. Instrumental metal is an important part of the instrumental rock scene, especially when popularity of metal guitarists in the 80's created a new demand for instrumental rock, and it should be mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.6.22.12 ( talk) 01:39, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Removed section claiming Hot Rats is instrumental rock. It features a track with vocals and is closer to jazz than rock. It is also misleading to suggest that Frank Zappa was an instrumental rock musician. Twelvetoner ( talk) 16:00, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
I think this article needs to be almost completely rewritten. The writing style seems incredibly unprofessional in places, and doesn't contain enough information to accurately convey the genre. The history section is also messy, it seems to feature a pretty random list of artists, most of which aren't even significant instrumental rock artists. For example, in the 1970's section it surely would be better to include a paragraph about instrumental jazz fusion, and then quote musicians like Jeff Beck, instead of just randomly referencing musicians. Your thoughts? Twelvetoner ( talk) 16:06, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
I feel like maybe the infobox should be removed since instrumental rock isn't really a genre. It's simply any kind of rock music without vocals. For example, the electronic rock article used to have an infobox, but it was removed because it isn't just one genre. I Am A Sandwich ( talk) 06:21, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Ah, lookit this! Love a term-paper length article on a non-obscure subject with exactly one ' reference' -- pointing only to a 404 page prominently featuring some washed-up rocker holding his 'guitar' in an ascendant position... presumably aspirational for certain biological equivalents? This may be one of the saddest Wiki articles I've seen in some time. "This article has multiple issues"... for over seven years now! The article's issues (and they're quite real, oh yes) are full-on Little People now. All graduated from Kindergarten and such.
Ah who am I kidding, I'm quite drunk. For Love's Luck though, burn this article to the ground. Haven't signed in since before that much-deserved warning box was slapped on this article, but apparently this has pushed me over the edge. Sad because clearly some folk have put work into this. But without references, reading this article is roughly equivalent to listening to an obnoxious music 'expert' at the office Christmas party... Antepenultimate ( talk) 07:51, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
In this article, it says "...mainstream bands like Metallica, Rush, Jethro Tull...". How can someone even come up with the idea of calling one of the past century's most innovative bands "mainstream"? Sick... - 194.71.176.221 ( talk) 10:22, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
"How can someone even come up with the idea of calling one of the past century's most innovative bands "mainstream"?" Most innovative bands which are influential are mainstream. It's not an insult. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.187.97.18 ( talk) 00:12, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
This article completely leaves out Eric Johnson, who was pretty much the only guitarist to have radio play in the '90s with his instrumental "Cliffs of Dover" along with other instrumentals from his album "Ah Via Musicom."— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.3.223.215 ( talk • contribs) 06:52, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
There is also the curious omission (in the actual article) of players like Tony MacAlpine, Greg Howe, and Vinnie Moore, along with the prevalance of other artists from Shrapnel Records in the '80s instrumental scene.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.3.223.215 ( talk • contribs) 06:55, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Hey, I just noticed that this article is missing mentions of a couple of notable early instrumental rock tracks: "Rumble" by Link Wray and "Raunchy" by Bill Justis. I mean, "Rumble" was banned in a few places for being suggestive. 159.83.54.2 ( talk) 02:27, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
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Rem text:
(Although groups like the Beach Boys and Jan and Dean were identified with surfing as subject matter, they are usually called ' surf pop' and not considered surf music proper.)
I don't think that's true, the rise of groups like The Surfaris that were equally competent in both surf pop and surf instrumental music made it more logical to see it as a single genre. See surf music for this more developed. Andrewa 13:04, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Moved the introductory paragraph into a body tag titled "History of Instrumental Rock", separated the list of instrumental rock musicians into bands and separate artists, and added a small section on Modern Instrumental rock. Removed reference to a few bands who are not within the instrumental rock genre.
Would appreciate more info on instrumental rock bands, particularly modern ones.
Also added a quick sentence or two on television theme songs, which often are instrumental. More examples would be great.
Clockwise music 06:06, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
I have removed the "After the poor reviews of Cacophony's sophomore album Go Off! in 1988" line, as I think a few citations would be needed to make this claim. Can anyone find any poor reviews of "Go Off" dated to 1988?
Other than that the anonymous tidy-ups were very good - thanks mr mystery (wo)man! Clockwise music 02:17, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
I removed The Fucking Champs from the opening. They are an indie stationed in Calfornia and do not have much notoriety elsewhere. I replaced them with Trans-Siberian Orchestra which is much more well known. I also added that some bands like Metallica and Rush also record instrumental tracks and enjoy much success. Aurocker49 21:16, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
This is mostly for User:Laneo12345 but others should add their input as well. I would argue that The Shadows and Fleetwood Mac should not be included with artists who are primarily known for instrumental music. In particular, I disagree with the claim that The Shadows "specialize in the style", especially since they are listed as an "instrumental and vocal rock and roll group" in their article, which also mentions numerous vocal releases. In a similar vein, I've never heard it claimed that Fleetwood Mac are "noted for instrumentals". Now I'm not claiming that these bands don't do instrumental tracks, which they clearly do, they're just not known for it like the rest of the bands listed in the opening paragraphs. Thoughts? Wyatt Riot ( talk) 13:21, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:“Hank B. Marvin, is an English guitarist, lead guitarist for The Shadows. The group, which primarily performed instrumentals, was formed as a backing band for singer Cliff Richard.”- From Hank Marvin page.
[[User: Laneo12345( talk) 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Wyatt Riot ( talk)
eg. Family Man and The Process of Weeding Out.
Should this be mentioned?
-- The Laxative ( talk) 17:25, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
There is an Allman Brothers mention, but what else should be done in this article's treatment of rock bands who aren't Instrumental Rock -focused but who do instrumental songs occasionally? Specifically, I'm thinking of "Moby Dick", the John Bonham extended drum solo, and "Orion" from Metallica's "Master of Puppets"
KingAlanI ( talk) 03:06, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Instrumental rock is a type of rock and roll which emphasizes musical instruments, and which features no or very little singing.
Rock music is 60's, Instrumental rock is 1958. Can you change this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mago266 ( talk • contribs) 20:27, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Hello everyone. I recently added Animals as Leaders to the article as they compose and produce instrumental metal music exclusively. My edit was reverted by User:Sabrebd though, apparently because to him, my edit looked like an advertisement. Only in '2000s' section, mentioned are various artists without any references to cover their notability. I'm wondering, what is different this time about my edit? Thanks. -- Λeternus (talk) 12:14, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Numerous instrumental metal acts are mentioned in the article, but there is no reference to them being metal acts, and there is no mention of the instrumental metal scene in general. Instrumental metal is an important part of the instrumental rock scene, especially when popularity of metal guitarists in the 80's created a new demand for instrumental rock, and it should be mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.6.22.12 ( talk) 01:39, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Removed section claiming Hot Rats is instrumental rock. It features a track with vocals and is closer to jazz than rock. It is also misleading to suggest that Frank Zappa was an instrumental rock musician. Twelvetoner ( talk) 16:00, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
I think this article needs to be almost completely rewritten. The writing style seems incredibly unprofessional in places, and doesn't contain enough information to accurately convey the genre. The history section is also messy, it seems to feature a pretty random list of artists, most of which aren't even significant instrumental rock artists. For example, in the 1970's section it surely would be better to include a paragraph about instrumental jazz fusion, and then quote musicians like Jeff Beck, instead of just randomly referencing musicians. Your thoughts? Twelvetoner ( talk) 16:06, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
I feel like maybe the infobox should be removed since instrumental rock isn't really a genre. It's simply any kind of rock music without vocals. For example, the electronic rock article used to have an infobox, but it was removed because it isn't just one genre. I Am A Sandwich ( talk) 06:21, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Ah, lookit this! Love a term-paper length article on a non-obscure subject with exactly one ' reference' -- pointing only to a 404 page prominently featuring some washed-up rocker holding his 'guitar' in an ascendant position... presumably aspirational for certain biological equivalents? This may be one of the saddest Wiki articles I've seen in some time. "This article has multiple issues"... for over seven years now! The article's issues (and they're quite real, oh yes) are full-on Little People now. All graduated from Kindergarten and such.
Ah who am I kidding, I'm quite drunk. For Love's Luck though, burn this article to the ground. Haven't signed in since before that much-deserved warning box was slapped on this article, but apparently this has pushed me over the edge. Sad because clearly some folk have put work into this. But without references, reading this article is roughly equivalent to listening to an obnoxious music 'expert' at the office Christmas party... Antepenultimate ( talk) 07:51, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
In this article, it says "...mainstream bands like Metallica, Rush, Jethro Tull...". How can someone even come up with the idea of calling one of the past century's most innovative bands "mainstream"? Sick... - 194.71.176.221 ( talk) 10:22, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
"How can someone even come up with the idea of calling one of the past century's most innovative bands "mainstream"?" Most innovative bands which are influential are mainstream. It's not an insult. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.187.97.18 ( talk) 00:12, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
This article completely leaves out Eric Johnson, who was pretty much the only guitarist to have radio play in the '90s with his instrumental "Cliffs of Dover" along with other instrumentals from his album "Ah Via Musicom."— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.3.223.215 ( talk • contribs) 06:52, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
There is also the curious omission (in the actual article) of players like Tony MacAlpine, Greg Howe, and Vinnie Moore, along with the prevalance of other artists from Shrapnel Records in the '80s instrumental scene.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.3.223.215 ( talk • contribs) 06:55, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Hey, I just noticed that this article is missing mentions of a couple of notable early instrumental rock tracks: "Rumble" by Link Wray and "Raunchy" by Bill Justis. I mean, "Rumble" was banned in a few places for being suggestive. 159.83.54.2 ( talk) 02:27, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
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