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It's difficult to find an authorised translation for "Generalinspekteur der Bundeswehr" (or GenInspBw). You find "Chief of the Defence Staff", to which either "Bundeswehr" or "German Federal Armed Forces" are being added. That would be the most common, I suppose, as they're all "CHODs" when they meet at international conferences. You also find "Chief of Staff, Bundeswehr", which is the preferred term at the Federal Office for Linguistics and Terminology and all that (Bundessprachenamt), but the GenInspBw himself seems to like CHOD better - that's what it says on his business card, anyway. NATO [1] even lists him as "Chief of the General Staff, Federal Armed Forces of Germany" [2], but they also have the CHOD as his current position a little further down on that page. So, for all practical purposes this entry should be changed to CHOD with a reference to the Bundeswehr rather than the Federal Armed Forces (there's actually a ministerial decree against translating the term "Bundeswehr" at all). Long story short, one thing is absolutely certain: "Inspector General" is definitely wrong. By the way, I believe that's a term used only for the top internal anti-fraud auditors in the (US) Departments of Justice, HHS, Defence and so on. -- 193.17.232.2 ( talk) 12:55, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
In WW II Trettner was an air force officer (paratrooper). In the Bundeswehr he was in the army.
Whose genius idea was it to change this lemma to "Chief of Federal Armed Forces Staff"? There are different translations, but nobody uses this version, I'd go so far as to say a user made it up. -- Imladros ( talk) 23:26, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Page moved: no objections Ground Zero | t 16:59, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Chief of Federal Armed Forces Staff →
Inspector General of the Bundeswehr – or
Chief of Staff of the Federal Armed Forces. The current name doesn't make much sense in English, especially considering the German equivalents; you can find about a
half-dozen NATO or such uses of it via Google.
Official websites mostly seem to use "Chief of Staff…", as does the
English website of the German president, so that title would be fine too. However, "Inspector General of the Bundeswehr" has more Google Books results (50 vs 16), is used on plenty of official websites (including ISAF's), is a literal but still understandable translation, and uses the German name of the
Bundeswehr, as we usually do. —
innotata
21:08, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved DrStrauss talk 15:27, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
Inspector General of the Bundeswehr →
Chief of Defence (Germany) – According to the official website for the Germany
Federal Ministry of Defence, the leader of the armed forces is called the Chief of Defence
[3]
Skjoldbro (
talk) 14:46, 15 September 2017 (UTC)--Relisting. —usernamekiran
(talk)
13:44, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
I have removed the image of Heinz Trettner and substituted it by the generic placeholder icon. Even this generic icon is far better than the image that was used before.
There is an official image of Trettner as Inspector General available at the German Federal Ministry of Defence's web page here that should be public domain since it was created in service of the government. Please upload this image and add it to the list. Thanks!-- 91.221.58.22 ( talk) 09:03, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
I have now requested a photo on Trettner's article's talk page. In general, I don't agree with your reasoning. The photos in this list have the purpose to illustrate the topic. Trettner's Luftwaffe photo is not suitable as an illustration for this specific list, as it has nothing to do with its topic. Photos are no value on their own, they should only be just as illustrations in context. No illustration is still better than a misleading and plain wrong illustration. As I said above, the photo depicts an air force colonel, not an army general. However, I won't press the matter.-- 91.221.58.23 ( talk) 11:06, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
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It's difficult to find an authorised translation for "Generalinspekteur der Bundeswehr" (or GenInspBw). You find "Chief of the Defence Staff", to which either "Bundeswehr" or "German Federal Armed Forces" are being added. That would be the most common, I suppose, as they're all "CHODs" when they meet at international conferences. You also find "Chief of Staff, Bundeswehr", which is the preferred term at the Federal Office for Linguistics and Terminology and all that (Bundessprachenamt), but the GenInspBw himself seems to like CHOD better - that's what it says on his business card, anyway. NATO [1] even lists him as "Chief of the General Staff, Federal Armed Forces of Germany" [2], but they also have the CHOD as his current position a little further down on that page. So, for all practical purposes this entry should be changed to CHOD with a reference to the Bundeswehr rather than the Federal Armed Forces (there's actually a ministerial decree against translating the term "Bundeswehr" at all). Long story short, one thing is absolutely certain: "Inspector General" is definitely wrong. By the way, I believe that's a term used only for the top internal anti-fraud auditors in the (US) Departments of Justice, HHS, Defence and so on. -- 193.17.232.2 ( talk) 12:55, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
In WW II Trettner was an air force officer (paratrooper). In the Bundeswehr he was in the army.
Whose genius idea was it to change this lemma to "Chief of Federal Armed Forces Staff"? There are different translations, but nobody uses this version, I'd go so far as to say a user made it up. -- Imladros ( talk) 23:26, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Page moved: no objections Ground Zero | t 16:59, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Chief of Federal Armed Forces Staff →
Inspector General of the Bundeswehr – or
Chief of Staff of the Federal Armed Forces. The current name doesn't make much sense in English, especially considering the German equivalents; you can find about a
half-dozen NATO or such uses of it via Google.
Official websites mostly seem to use "Chief of Staff…", as does the
English website of the German president, so that title would be fine too. However, "Inspector General of the Bundeswehr" has more Google Books results (50 vs 16), is used on plenty of official websites (including ISAF's), is a literal but still understandable translation, and uses the German name of the
Bundeswehr, as we usually do. —
innotata
21:08, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved DrStrauss talk 15:27, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
Inspector General of the Bundeswehr →
Chief of Defence (Germany) – According to the official website for the Germany
Federal Ministry of Defence, the leader of the armed forces is called the Chief of Defence
[3]
Skjoldbro (
talk) 14:46, 15 September 2017 (UTC)--Relisting. —usernamekiran
(talk)
13:44, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
I have removed the image of Heinz Trettner and substituted it by the generic placeholder icon. Even this generic icon is far better than the image that was used before.
There is an official image of Trettner as Inspector General available at the German Federal Ministry of Defence's web page here that should be public domain since it was created in service of the government. Please upload this image and add it to the list. Thanks!-- 91.221.58.22 ( talk) 09:03, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
I have now requested a photo on Trettner's article's talk page. In general, I don't agree with your reasoning. The photos in this list have the purpose to illustrate the topic. Trettner's Luftwaffe photo is not suitable as an illustration for this specific list, as it has nothing to do with its topic. Photos are no value on their own, they should only be just as illustrations in context. No illustration is still better than a misleading and plain wrong illustration. As I said above, the photo depicts an air force colonel, not an army general. However, I won't press the matter.-- 91.221.58.23 ( talk) 11:06, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:
Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 07:51, 30 June 2021 (UTC)