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"[Staple Inn] is now used as the headquarters of the Institute of Actuaries" is a bit misleading. They still use the hall and a couple of offices, but most of the building is now generic City short-lease office space – see their website. – iride scent 22:38, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Having quickly scan-read through the article a couple of times, it appears to be fairly comprehensive, illustrated and well-referenced; and about GA standard. I'll, therefore, continue with the review in some detail, section by section, but leaving the WP:Lead until last. Pyrotec ( talk) 20:06, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
I prefer to leave the WP:lead until last. It is intended to form two functions: provide an introduction to the article and to summarise the main points. By reviewing it last, it is far easier to evaluate whether it does both jobs. However, in this case, it needs to be considered first.
Conundrum - Summarising the article in about a paragraph. The lead states that the Inns were legal institutions that changed their function over time, died out and were demolished. The History section discusses training of baristers and then the provision of accommodation and offices, later dinning clubs. The Inns section gives a history of the individual inns and whom they were named after, etc. At least one of which was an inn, i.e. a hostel.
From this, I believe that the WP:lead is inadeqate, possibly other sections might need consideration as well. The Inns were buildings that housed a function that changed over time; and the functions became legal institutions. The History section is mostly about what happened in the Inns, i.e. the functions/legal institutions and the Inns section is mostly about the buildings, who they were named after, and sometimes notable occupants.
I'm put the article On Hold at this point for the nominator to consider the article as a whole: i.e is the lead adequate and the two sections, their titles and content, fit for purpose? Inns of Chancery can mean both the buildings and the fuctions, is the article balanced, you can't demolish a legal institution? The article is (appears) to be well-referenced, so I assume at this point it is compliant with WP:verify; and the prose is OK. Pyrotec ( talk) 20:55, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Pyrotec ( talk) 21:28, 8 September 2009 (UTC)"New Inn, originally St. George's Inn or Our Lady Inn, was founded in the 15th century from our Lady Inn, a hostel.[3] Noted students included Sir Thomas More, who attended New Inn before going to Lincoln's Inn. The buildings of New Inn were pulled down in 1902 to make way for a road between Holborn and The Strand.[3] After the destruction of Strand Inn, New Inn was the only Inn of Chancery left attached to the Middle Temple.[17] Furnival's Inn was founded before or during the reign of Henry IV and named after the Lords Furnival.[18] During the 1820s the Inn was completely rebuilt by Inigo Jones.[19] Noted tenants include Charles Dickens, who began to write The Pickwick Papers when there.[19] The Inn was demolished in 1897.[20] Thavie's Inn was the second oldest Inn of Chancery, and was founded around 1349. It was sold in 1769.[1]
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
A interesting well-referenced article.
Congratulations on the quality of the article: a well-referenced and researched article. I'm awarding GA-status. Pyrotec ( talk) 21:43, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
In the text it says 'John Fortescue wrote of ten Inns of Chancery': only 9 are listed and 'others were "never acknowledged by anybody".' So what became of the 10th and would implying 'others of a transient nature/did not leave traces in the records' be more appropriate? Jackiespeel ( talk) 18:09, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
As St George's Inn pre-dates the existence of Middle Temple Inn, it must be older than the 15th century. That might be when it became New Inn. Richard75 ( talk) 19:53, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
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John Fortescue listed ten
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"[Staple Inn] is now used as the headquarters of the Institute of Actuaries" is a bit misleading. They still use the hall and a couple of offices, but most of the building is now generic City short-lease office space – see their website. – iride scent 22:38, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Having quickly scan-read through the article a couple of times, it appears to be fairly comprehensive, illustrated and well-referenced; and about GA standard. I'll, therefore, continue with the review in some detail, section by section, but leaving the WP:Lead until last. Pyrotec ( talk) 20:06, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
I prefer to leave the WP:lead until last. It is intended to form two functions: provide an introduction to the article and to summarise the main points. By reviewing it last, it is far easier to evaluate whether it does both jobs. However, in this case, it needs to be considered first.
Conundrum - Summarising the article in about a paragraph. The lead states that the Inns were legal institutions that changed their function over time, died out and were demolished. The History section discusses training of baristers and then the provision of accommodation and offices, later dinning clubs. The Inns section gives a history of the individual inns and whom they were named after, etc. At least one of which was an inn, i.e. a hostel.
From this, I believe that the WP:lead is inadeqate, possibly other sections might need consideration as well. The Inns were buildings that housed a function that changed over time; and the functions became legal institutions. The History section is mostly about what happened in the Inns, i.e. the functions/legal institutions and the Inns section is mostly about the buildings, who they were named after, and sometimes notable occupants.
I'm put the article On Hold at this point for the nominator to consider the article as a whole: i.e is the lead adequate and the two sections, their titles and content, fit for purpose? Inns of Chancery can mean both the buildings and the fuctions, is the article balanced, you can't demolish a legal institution? The article is (appears) to be well-referenced, so I assume at this point it is compliant with WP:verify; and the prose is OK. Pyrotec ( talk) 20:55, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Pyrotec ( talk) 21:28, 8 September 2009 (UTC)"New Inn, originally St. George's Inn or Our Lady Inn, was founded in the 15th century from our Lady Inn, a hostel.[3] Noted students included Sir Thomas More, who attended New Inn before going to Lincoln's Inn. The buildings of New Inn were pulled down in 1902 to make way for a road between Holborn and The Strand.[3] After the destruction of Strand Inn, New Inn was the only Inn of Chancery left attached to the Middle Temple.[17] Furnival's Inn was founded before or during the reign of Henry IV and named after the Lords Furnival.[18] During the 1820s the Inn was completely rebuilt by Inigo Jones.[19] Noted tenants include Charles Dickens, who began to write The Pickwick Papers when there.[19] The Inn was demolished in 1897.[20] Thavie's Inn was the second oldest Inn of Chancery, and was founded around 1349. It was sold in 1769.[1]
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
A interesting well-referenced article.
Congratulations on the quality of the article: a well-referenced and researched article. I'm awarding GA-status. Pyrotec ( talk) 21:43, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
In the text it says 'John Fortescue wrote of ten Inns of Chancery': only 9 are listed and 'others were "never acknowledged by anybody".' So what became of the 10th and would implying 'others of a transient nature/did not leave traces in the records' be more appropriate? Jackiespeel ( talk) 18:09, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
As St George's Inn pre-dates the existence of Middle Temple Inn, it must be older than the 15th century. That might be when it became New Inn. Richard75 ( talk) 19:53, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:
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