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Did you know... that Inna Derusova(pictured) was the first woman to be posthumously awarded the title of
Hero of Ukraine?
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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... that Russian media accused Ukraine of faking a hospital visit video that appeared to show Inna Derusova(pictured) after she had died? Source:
https://observers.france24.com/en/europe/20220315-a-pre-recorded-video-the-pro-russian-hoax-suggesting-that-volodymyr-zelensky-has-left-ukraine "Russian media outlets, including Russia Today, are falsely claiming that the video of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky's visit to a Kyiv hospital on March 13 was recorded last month, fuelling speculation that he has fled the country... According to them, the video could not have been shot in March because the woman accompanying the president is believed to be Inna Derusova, a military nurse who died on February 26.... The woman is actually Tatyana Ostashchenko, commander of the Medical Service of the Ukrainian Armed Forces."
Alt 1 is better per notability. The first DYK text is unacceptable as written because it fails to point out that the accusation was false, and sounds like it’s still undetermined. —MichaelZ.16:51, 30 April 2022 (UTC)reply
I admit I don't like the modern Trump-reaction style of hitting the readers over the head with "false, false, false, you morons, false", especially when we're trying to draw them in to reading the article. I think "accused" and "appeared" are strong enough implications. But times do change, and I may be a dinosaur in giving the reader credit for intelligence, and falsely was
in my co-author's original suggestion, so if the reviewer prefers, here is ALT2: ... that Russian media falsely accused Ukraine of faking a hospital visit video that appeared to show Inna Derusova(pictured) after she had died? same source --
GRuban (
talk)
11:55, 1 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Interesting life on fine sources, foreign sources accepted AGF. Striking the original, as ALT1 is more about her merits. I wouldn't mind if you added a bit to that hook about the medal shown, to avoid confusion with the posthumous award. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk)
13:05, 9 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Wrong date of birth?
A new editor,
Derusovavaleriia, just
tried to change her birth date, with summary (translated from Russian) "Wrong date of birth. I am her niece." I reverted, but on translating the edit summary, it seems plausible. Can we double check if the source for the current date is reliable, and if there are any other sources listing a different date? {{u|Sdkb}}talk07:14, 3 May 2022 (UTC)reply
A fact from Inna Derusova appeared on Wikipedia's
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check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that Inna Derusova(pictured) was the first woman to be posthumously awarded the title of
Hero of Ukraine?
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ukraine, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Ukraine on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.UkraineWikipedia:WikiProject UkraineTemplate:WikiProject UkraineUkraine articles
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
... that Russian media accused Ukraine of faking a hospital visit video that appeared to show Inna Derusova(pictured) after she had died? Source:
https://observers.france24.com/en/europe/20220315-a-pre-recorded-video-the-pro-russian-hoax-suggesting-that-volodymyr-zelensky-has-left-ukraine "Russian media outlets, including Russia Today, are falsely claiming that the video of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky's visit to a Kyiv hospital on March 13 was recorded last month, fuelling speculation that he has fled the country... According to them, the video could not have been shot in March because the woman accompanying the president is believed to be Inna Derusova, a military nurse who died on February 26.... The woman is actually Tatyana Ostashchenko, commander of the Medical Service of the Ukrainian Armed Forces."
Alt 1 is better per notability. The first DYK text is unacceptable as written because it fails to point out that the accusation was false, and sounds like it’s still undetermined. —MichaelZ.16:51, 30 April 2022 (UTC)reply
I admit I don't like the modern Trump-reaction style of hitting the readers over the head with "false, false, false, you morons, false", especially when we're trying to draw them in to reading the article. I think "accused" and "appeared" are strong enough implications. But times do change, and I may be a dinosaur in giving the reader credit for intelligence, and falsely was
in my co-author's original suggestion, so if the reviewer prefers, here is ALT2: ... that Russian media falsely accused Ukraine of faking a hospital visit video that appeared to show Inna Derusova(pictured) after she had died? same source --
GRuban (
talk)
11:55, 1 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Interesting life on fine sources, foreign sources accepted AGF. Striking the original, as ALT1 is more about her merits. I wouldn't mind if you added a bit to that hook about the medal shown, to avoid confusion with the posthumous award. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk)
13:05, 9 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Wrong date of birth?
A new editor,
Derusovavaleriia, just
tried to change her birth date, with summary (translated from Russian) "Wrong date of birth. I am her niece." I reverted, but on translating the edit summary, it seems plausible. Can we double check if the source for the current date is reliable, and if there are any other sources listing a different date? {{u|Sdkb}}talk07:14, 3 May 2022 (UTC)reply