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Bandwidth theft has been redirected here as per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bandwidth theft, there were several votes to merge the contents over to this article if anyone wants the task. Jtkiefer T | @ | C ----- 23:28, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Is it appropriate for this to be the redirect from Hotlink? I would expect Hotlink to redirect to Hypertext. At the least, can we have a link somewhere to History of hypertext for fuller understanding of where the practice came from? There is no History section in this article, which seems to provide a very one-sided idea of it necessarily being a Bad Thing (and which appears to violate NPOV). Aerowolf ( talk) 17:37, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Clearly "direct linking" is more appropriate term; "inline" just doesn't ring a bell with most people. I've been doing web programming for years and it took me longer than normal to decode what this article was about -- it was simply about direct linking, and "inline linking" was just a confusing synonym. Ninjagecko 12:13, 28 June 2006 (UTC)Ninjagecko
-- addition -- The term "Inline linking" is most commonly used for the kind of links Wikipedia itself uses - i.e. a link inline with the text; a link that wraps around key words in a paragraph or sentence. What you've described on this page is NOT inline, but "direct" (even that's cagey and unclear) or something else clearer like 'offsite image grabs'. Calling it inline makes absolutely no sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.136.163.17 ( talk) 13:13, 24 June 2009
The term that Wikipedia uses for what this article describes is "transclusion".
I'd like to see this and direct linking merged and formed into a new category: "Hotlinking". It's the most commonly used term AFAIK. ---- David n m bond 15:07, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
I also would like to see them merged with "Hotlinking". This is the term I have heard most often; I'd never heard any of the others before. Seaheart317 02:34, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
While I agree that "Hotlinking" is the more commonly used now to describe Inline Linking, I believe that "Hotlinking," especially the word "hot link" is an outdated term for what we now call a "link." S4xton 15:37 25 January 2006 (UTC)
What about "remote linking"? It's the most commonly used term today, especially among free web hosting providers themselves. -- J.L.W.S. The Special One 06:09, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
I would like to see a merge of the articles under hotlinking with a distinction being made between the authorized and unauthorized use as both articles are muddy on the point. I would have to say that "hotlinking" is the most common usage in the vernacular today for an object request (generally an image) from one server by another. It is far different than and ordinary link as it performs a get on the object at page load as opposed to being clicked (thus the link is “hot”). The terms leeching, bandwidth theft, or bandwidth rape are associated with this as an unauthorized negative activity. Remote linking and direct linking are generally associated with this as an authorized activity. -- Roblem 17:16, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I do not think that they should be merged. An "inline link" that would be considered bandwidth theft is frowned upon by every personal website owner that I know. However, "direct links", which go to HTML files (it is important that it does not link directly to other media), promote the user to browse the site, bringing traffic. This is almost always appreciated, even when it is not a link to the "index" or "intro" page.
I agree with the previous posters definitions, but fail to see why these should be one article when they are such clearly separate concepts.
Has anyone ever heard of terms like "Raping the bandwidth", or "Bandwidth rape" used in similar context?-- DooM Drat 07:51, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
I would consider "deep linking" and "bandwidth theft" to be different things that should be handled separately. One is simply directing traffic to a site via a normal link. The other is using another site as a free image storage site without actually sending it any traffic. MichaelSH 23:31, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
How about "Hotlinking makes Jimbo Wales feel all sad inside."?-- Edtropolis 19:38, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
This merger has been proposed and having read both articles I agree that this might be a good idea. Perhaps leaving direct linking as a redirect to this page. __ meco 07:33, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Merging Direct linking seems sensible to me. Thayvian 00:03, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
As I understand it, inline linking is the practice of including links inline (e.g. within a paragraph body rather than in a separate list). There is a certain amount of controversy over whether this practice is desirable or not from an accessibility/readability point of view.
Therefore, I recommend that anything useful in the present article be removed to wherever it is relevant and a new article on the subject of inline linking be placed here.
Perhaps add a link to the Wikipedia policy on hotlinking as perhaps examples of a site's policy. However, presently all one can find is commons:Commons:Reusing_content_outside_Wikimedia#Hotlinking and Wikipedia_talk:Images#Hotlinking. Jidanni 21:47, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm flagging this article because it is in need of a mention of "remote loading." You can remote load an image from someone else's website without their permission, in which case it is bandwidth theft, or you can remote load it legitimately from a file hosting account. Many website hosting terms of service use the phrase remote loading in the context that they will or won't allow it. See this Google search for "remote loading" glossary. When this is fixed, go ahead and remove the flag. 5Q5 ( talk) 21:49, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
I think it would be interesting to have a bit about how the law sees hotlinking and such -- TiagoTiago ( talk) 13:53, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
isn't the term 'Bandwidth Stealing' used, too? -- Itu ( talk) 19:19, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
The article currently has a sentence that reads:
"An article on one site may refer to copyrighted images or content on another site, avoiding rights and ownership issues that copying the original files might raise, although this practice is generally not accepted."
I think the word "refer" is misleading here, as is the word "avoiding." Unless I'm misunderstanding something, shouldn't this be...
An article on one site may inline copyrighted images or content by hotlinking them from another site; there might be an assumption that this somehow avoids the copyright issues that direct copying would entail, although this is not at all clear.
...or something like that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.243.22.130 ( talk) 15:49, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
The terms "HOTlink" and "HOTlink II" also refer to high speed data interfaces, see for example this Google search or this example product. George Dishman ( talk) 09:30, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
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Bandwidth theft has been redirected here as per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bandwidth theft, there were several votes to merge the contents over to this article if anyone wants the task. Jtkiefer T | @ | C ----- 23:28, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Is it appropriate for this to be the redirect from Hotlink? I would expect Hotlink to redirect to Hypertext. At the least, can we have a link somewhere to History of hypertext for fuller understanding of where the practice came from? There is no History section in this article, which seems to provide a very one-sided idea of it necessarily being a Bad Thing (and which appears to violate NPOV). Aerowolf ( talk) 17:37, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Clearly "direct linking" is more appropriate term; "inline" just doesn't ring a bell with most people. I've been doing web programming for years and it took me longer than normal to decode what this article was about -- it was simply about direct linking, and "inline linking" was just a confusing synonym. Ninjagecko 12:13, 28 June 2006 (UTC)Ninjagecko
-- addition -- The term "Inline linking" is most commonly used for the kind of links Wikipedia itself uses - i.e. a link inline with the text; a link that wraps around key words in a paragraph or sentence. What you've described on this page is NOT inline, but "direct" (even that's cagey and unclear) or something else clearer like 'offsite image grabs'. Calling it inline makes absolutely no sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.136.163.17 ( talk) 13:13, 24 June 2009
The term that Wikipedia uses for what this article describes is "transclusion".
I'd like to see this and direct linking merged and formed into a new category: "Hotlinking". It's the most commonly used term AFAIK. ---- David n m bond 15:07, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
I also would like to see them merged with "Hotlinking". This is the term I have heard most often; I'd never heard any of the others before. Seaheart317 02:34, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
While I agree that "Hotlinking" is the more commonly used now to describe Inline Linking, I believe that "Hotlinking," especially the word "hot link" is an outdated term for what we now call a "link." S4xton 15:37 25 January 2006 (UTC)
What about "remote linking"? It's the most commonly used term today, especially among free web hosting providers themselves. -- J.L.W.S. The Special One 06:09, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
I would like to see a merge of the articles under hotlinking with a distinction being made between the authorized and unauthorized use as both articles are muddy on the point. I would have to say that "hotlinking" is the most common usage in the vernacular today for an object request (generally an image) from one server by another. It is far different than and ordinary link as it performs a get on the object at page load as opposed to being clicked (thus the link is “hot”). The terms leeching, bandwidth theft, or bandwidth rape are associated with this as an unauthorized negative activity. Remote linking and direct linking are generally associated with this as an authorized activity. -- Roblem 17:16, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I do not think that they should be merged. An "inline link" that would be considered bandwidth theft is frowned upon by every personal website owner that I know. However, "direct links", which go to HTML files (it is important that it does not link directly to other media), promote the user to browse the site, bringing traffic. This is almost always appreciated, even when it is not a link to the "index" or "intro" page.
I agree with the previous posters definitions, but fail to see why these should be one article when they are such clearly separate concepts.
Has anyone ever heard of terms like "Raping the bandwidth", or "Bandwidth rape" used in similar context?-- DooM Drat 07:51, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
I would consider "deep linking" and "bandwidth theft" to be different things that should be handled separately. One is simply directing traffic to a site via a normal link. The other is using another site as a free image storage site without actually sending it any traffic. MichaelSH 23:31, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
How about "Hotlinking makes Jimbo Wales feel all sad inside."?-- Edtropolis 19:38, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
This merger has been proposed and having read both articles I agree that this might be a good idea. Perhaps leaving direct linking as a redirect to this page. __ meco 07:33, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Merging Direct linking seems sensible to me. Thayvian 00:03, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
As I understand it, inline linking is the practice of including links inline (e.g. within a paragraph body rather than in a separate list). There is a certain amount of controversy over whether this practice is desirable or not from an accessibility/readability point of view.
Therefore, I recommend that anything useful in the present article be removed to wherever it is relevant and a new article on the subject of inline linking be placed here.
Perhaps add a link to the Wikipedia policy on hotlinking as perhaps examples of a site's policy. However, presently all one can find is commons:Commons:Reusing_content_outside_Wikimedia#Hotlinking and Wikipedia_talk:Images#Hotlinking. Jidanni 21:47, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm flagging this article because it is in need of a mention of "remote loading." You can remote load an image from someone else's website without their permission, in which case it is bandwidth theft, or you can remote load it legitimately from a file hosting account. Many website hosting terms of service use the phrase remote loading in the context that they will or won't allow it. See this Google search for "remote loading" glossary. When this is fixed, go ahead and remove the flag. 5Q5 ( talk) 21:49, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
I think it would be interesting to have a bit about how the law sees hotlinking and such -- TiagoTiago ( talk) 13:53, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
isn't the term 'Bandwidth Stealing' used, too? -- Itu ( talk) 19:19, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
The article currently has a sentence that reads:
"An article on one site may refer to copyrighted images or content on another site, avoiding rights and ownership issues that copying the original files might raise, although this practice is generally not accepted."
I think the word "refer" is misleading here, as is the word "avoiding." Unless I'm misunderstanding something, shouldn't this be...
An article on one site may inline copyrighted images or content by hotlinking them from another site; there might be an assumption that this somehow avoids the copyright issues that direct copying would entail, although this is not at all clear.
...or something like that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.243.22.130 ( talk) 15:49, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
The terms "HOTlink" and "HOTlink II" also refer to high speed data interfaces, see for example this Google search or this example product. George Dishman ( talk) 09:30, 20 November 2012 (UTC)