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A section should be written about the Gilroy Scout. Unfortunately, the info I have was printed from the old, defunct Gilroy Indian website from when they were still a viable concern, and it doesn't even have the old URL printed on it.
Some possible sources:
Any help would be appreciated. Sincerely, SamBlob ( talk) 01:43, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
I hereby begin a discussion to determine whether the article Indian 101 Scout should be merged into this article.
When I started the article on the 101 Scout, this article did not exist, and most of the information I had was about the 101. I figured the 101 was notable in its own right, and I still think it is.
However, the 101 also falls within the scope of this article, and this article is a bit small to have a child article, even if the "child" is older than the "parent".
Therefore, I believe the merging of these articles should be discussed, even though (especially because?) I am not sure whether they should be merged or not.
Sincerely, SamBlob ( talk) 15:32, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
According to WP:MC-MOS, under "Infobox and Statistics":
"The main image of a motorcycle in {{ Infobox Motorcycle}} generally follows WP:CARPIX."
Going on to WP:CARPIX#Minimum image standards, we have, under Item 6 "Use images of cars in good, complete, clean, and original condition whenever possible. Avoid pictures of heavily customized cars as they may not be very representative of the vehicles most common appearance, unless the text in context to the picture is dealing with the customization of the vehicle."
In light of this, why has the photo that was in the 101 Scout's infobox, which meets this criterion, been replaced by a photo of a hillclimbing special with a gigantic rear wheel with chains on it, a disproportionately large rear sprocket, a girder fork from a later motorcycle, and no front brake (there's no evidence of a rear brake either, but it could be hiding behind that huge rear sprocket)? Especially so when the replacement photo also shows an elevated bike in side view (contrary to Item 10) with a cluttered background (contrary to Item 5)?
Sincerely, SamBlob ( talk) 10:31, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
I've been thinking we need to stop following the Automobile Project's picture view standard, of a 3/4 angle, because it foreshortens the motorcycle and makes it hard to get a clear idea of what the bike looks like. A plain side view makes more sense for a motorcycle. Glynn Kerr has mentioned several times that motorcycles are almost two-dimensional; they're so narrow that there isn't much to see from the front and the whole design is the side. -- Dennis Bratland ( talk) 15:44, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. Xoloz ( talk) 01:13, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
Indian Scout (motorcycle) →
Indian Scout – The convention for the name of a motorcycle (and therefore for the name of the article about the motorcycle) is the make/marque/brand followed by the model name or code, e.g.
Norton Commando,
Honda Gold Wing,
MZ Skorpion. This would make the natural name for this article "Indian Scout". Based on
WP:DIFFCAPS, the capitalization of Indian Scout should identify the subject of the article as a product, and thus disambiguate it from other topics that would come to mind as
Indian scouts, such as the
United States Army Indian Scouts or
Scouting and Guiding in India. This makes the "motorcycle" in parentheses at the end of the article title superfluous.
Sincerely, SamBlob (
talk)
06:15, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
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A section should be written about the Gilroy Scout. Unfortunately, the info I have was printed from the old, defunct Gilroy Indian website from when they were still a viable concern, and it doesn't even have the old URL printed on it.
Some possible sources:
Any help would be appreciated. Sincerely, SamBlob ( talk) 01:43, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
I hereby begin a discussion to determine whether the article Indian 101 Scout should be merged into this article.
When I started the article on the 101 Scout, this article did not exist, and most of the information I had was about the 101. I figured the 101 was notable in its own right, and I still think it is.
However, the 101 also falls within the scope of this article, and this article is a bit small to have a child article, even if the "child" is older than the "parent".
Therefore, I believe the merging of these articles should be discussed, even though (especially because?) I am not sure whether they should be merged or not.
Sincerely, SamBlob ( talk) 15:32, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
According to WP:MC-MOS, under "Infobox and Statistics":
"The main image of a motorcycle in {{ Infobox Motorcycle}} generally follows WP:CARPIX."
Going on to WP:CARPIX#Minimum image standards, we have, under Item 6 "Use images of cars in good, complete, clean, and original condition whenever possible. Avoid pictures of heavily customized cars as they may not be very representative of the vehicles most common appearance, unless the text in context to the picture is dealing with the customization of the vehicle."
In light of this, why has the photo that was in the 101 Scout's infobox, which meets this criterion, been replaced by a photo of a hillclimbing special with a gigantic rear wheel with chains on it, a disproportionately large rear sprocket, a girder fork from a later motorcycle, and no front brake (there's no evidence of a rear brake either, but it could be hiding behind that huge rear sprocket)? Especially so when the replacement photo also shows an elevated bike in side view (contrary to Item 10) with a cluttered background (contrary to Item 5)?
Sincerely, SamBlob ( talk) 10:31, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
I've been thinking we need to stop following the Automobile Project's picture view standard, of a 3/4 angle, because it foreshortens the motorcycle and makes it hard to get a clear idea of what the bike looks like. A plain side view makes more sense for a motorcycle. Glynn Kerr has mentioned several times that motorcycles are almost two-dimensional; they're so narrow that there isn't much to see from the front and the whole design is the side. -- Dennis Bratland ( talk) 15:44, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. Xoloz ( talk) 01:13, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
Indian Scout (motorcycle) →
Indian Scout – The convention for the name of a motorcycle (and therefore for the name of the article about the motorcycle) is the make/marque/brand followed by the model name or code, e.g.
Norton Commando,
Honda Gold Wing,
MZ Skorpion. This would make the natural name for this article "Indian Scout". Based on
WP:DIFFCAPS, the capitalization of Indian Scout should identify the subject of the article as a product, and thus disambiguate it from other topics that would come to mind as
Indian scouts, such as the
United States Army Indian Scouts or
Scouting and Guiding in India. This makes the "motorcycle" in parentheses at the end of the article title superfluous.
Sincerely, SamBlob (
talk)
06:15, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
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