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Indian Camp" (published in 1925) was the first
Ernest Hemingway
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autobiographical character
Nick Adams? | |||||||||||||
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Reviewer: Jezhotwells ( talk) 01:27, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
I shall be reviewing this article against the Good Article criteria, following its nomination for Good Article status.
Disambiguations: One found and fixed. [1] Jezhotwells ( talk) 01:31, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Linkrot: none found. Jezhotwells ( talk) 01:32, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi TK88. This sentence is confusing because of the double quotes: At that time Edmund Wilson wrote "that 'Hemingway's prose was of the first distinction'". If there is an internal quote (inside Wilson's), then essentially it's quoting someone else. In any case the "that" should be outside quotation marks because it functions as part of the article author's voice ("wrote that..."). I'll leave any other comments here... Riggr Mortis ( talk) 14:46, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Had a bunch of review comments. 3 pages of legal pad. It's just how I engage with things. It's really the norm in academia or certain types of business work.
Started to transcribe it, but it is a lot of work. So...I stopped. And the things vary from ones I could probably CE myself with no disagreement ("Hemingway has Nick is left in the woods") to ones where you may not agree with me. And then I had a few comments on the story itself, which boil down to Hemingway is over-rated and Steinbeck under-rated. Suggestions?
TCO ( talk) 21:40, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
No sweat. That's one of the reasons I did not share it. I didn't want to move things backwards by being demotivating.
The support stands. It was more in the nature of nuances, but I honestly think the thing is quite strong enough for a star already.
Hope you feel better and don't let the Wikipediots get you down.
P.s. I absolutely don't think you should compare the writers in your article! I'm just sharing that your article made me think of the two. I engaged in the content...this has nothing to do with Wiki. Just a personal reaction. 22:30, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
For the source Hemingway's Primitivism and "Indian Camp", should the original journal submission be cited? ( http://www.jstor.org/stable/441078) Smallman12q ( talk) 22:58, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
We have two different articles on two different journals. The uppercase Transatlantic Journal is not the same journal as the lowercase transatlantic journal. I'm up to my eyeballs with work (as in the paying real world kind of work) and have had to revert this twice today - apparently because of MOS issues. If MoS doesn't allow lowercase, though the journal was intentionally titled in lowercase, then at least allow me to dab to the correct page, and give the benefit of the doubt that editor who brought this to FAC knows their research. This link shows an image of Ford's transatlantic review. I'd prefer it to be lowercase - what do we do about e.e. cummings? Truthkeeper ( talk) 20:37, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
Wouldnt an actual picture of a copy of "Indian Camp" be more relevant as the main picture than a picture of Hemingway? I dont know if a picture is out there... BlakeAllred ( talk) 00:42, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
I don't understand the significance of this: "blocked out much of the caesarian but he had clearly seen the father's head tilted back." What was the importance of seeing his father's head tilted back?
Also, Hannum writes that the treatment of the Uncle George character results from the "never-resolved implication of the paternity of the Indian child". Was Uncle George purported to be be father of the Indian child, or what? Thanks, Manny may ( talk) 03:01, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello there. Firstly I'd just like to say well done on getting this to FA status, but I do have a point that I'd like to raise; this article talks about "Indians" in the opening introduction, but I (as an English Wikipedian) immediately assumed that they were talking about the people of the Indian subcontinent; only reading on did I come to assume that the article was in fact discussing Native American "Indians". This really needs to be made clearer, as for millions around the world the term "Indian" does not naturally conjure up the idea of Indigenous Americans. ( Midnightblueowl ( talk) 16:21, 13 October 2011 (UTC))
As an extension to my previous point (see above), I was wondering if there was an information on which particular Indigenous tribal and/or ethnic group the "Indian camp" belonged to ? If this knowledge was known then it would surely be of great relevance to the article. ( Midnightblueowl ( talk) 19:52, 13 October 2011 (UTC))
How about simply referring to an "unspecified Native American people in northern North America", as the term "Native American" includes not only the peoples of the contemporary U.S. and Canada, but the peoples of Mexico, Peru, Bolivia etc. ? ( Midnightblueowl ( talk) 20:24, 15 October 2011 (UTC))
and thanks a lot to the main author (Truthkeeper88 ?). Just wanted to add : I thought the photo of Ernest & Hadley in 1922 had been taken in Chamby, a little village above Montreux , Switzerland ( I live nearby, on the southern shore). Many thanks nevertheless : great text. T.y. Arapaima ( talk) 18:48, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
Is reference 23 formatted correctly? Surely it should be Meyers 1985, pp. 120–208, 560 as opposed to the current Meyers 1985, pp. 560, 208–120? -- Cassianto Talk 17:29, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Indian Camp is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so. | |||||||||||||
This article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on October 13, 2011. | |||||||||||||
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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the "
Did you know?" column on
March 12, 2010. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that "
Indian Camp" (published in 1925) was the first
Ernest Hemingway
short story to feature the semi-
autobiographical character
Nick Adams? | |||||||||||||
Current status: Featured article |
This article is rated FA-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||
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GA toolbox |
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Reviewing |
Reviewer: Jezhotwells ( talk) 01:27, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
I shall be reviewing this article against the Good Article criteria, following its nomination for Good Article status.
Disambiguations: One found and fixed. [1] Jezhotwells ( talk) 01:31, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Linkrot: none found. Jezhotwells ( talk) 01:32, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi TK88. This sentence is confusing because of the double quotes: At that time Edmund Wilson wrote "that 'Hemingway's prose was of the first distinction'". If there is an internal quote (inside Wilson's), then essentially it's quoting someone else. In any case the "that" should be outside quotation marks because it functions as part of the article author's voice ("wrote that..."). I'll leave any other comments here... Riggr Mortis ( talk) 14:46, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Had a bunch of review comments. 3 pages of legal pad. It's just how I engage with things. It's really the norm in academia or certain types of business work.
Started to transcribe it, but it is a lot of work. So...I stopped. And the things vary from ones I could probably CE myself with no disagreement ("Hemingway has Nick is left in the woods") to ones where you may not agree with me. And then I had a few comments on the story itself, which boil down to Hemingway is over-rated and Steinbeck under-rated. Suggestions?
TCO ( talk) 21:40, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
No sweat. That's one of the reasons I did not share it. I didn't want to move things backwards by being demotivating.
The support stands. It was more in the nature of nuances, but I honestly think the thing is quite strong enough for a star already.
Hope you feel better and don't let the Wikipediots get you down.
P.s. I absolutely don't think you should compare the writers in your article! I'm just sharing that your article made me think of the two. I engaged in the content...this has nothing to do with Wiki. Just a personal reaction. 22:30, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
For the source Hemingway's Primitivism and "Indian Camp", should the original journal submission be cited? ( http://www.jstor.org/stable/441078) Smallman12q ( talk) 22:58, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
We have two different articles on two different journals. The uppercase Transatlantic Journal is not the same journal as the lowercase transatlantic journal. I'm up to my eyeballs with work (as in the paying real world kind of work) and have had to revert this twice today - apparently because of MOS issues. If MoS doesn't allow lowercase, though the journal was intentionally titled in lowercase, then at least allow me to dab to the correct page, and give the benefit of the doubt that editor who brought this to FAC knows their research. This link shows an image of Ford's transatlantic review. I'd prefer it to be lowercase - what do we do about e.e. cummings? Truthkeeper ( talk) 20:37, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
Wouldnt an actual picture of a copy of "Indian Camp" be more relevant as the main picture than a picture of Hemingway? I dont know if a picture is out there... BlakeAllred ( talk) 00:42, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
I don't understand the significance of this: "blocked out much of the caesarian but he had clearly seen the father's head tilted back." What was the importance of seeing his father's head tilted back?
Also, Hannum writes that the treatment of the Uncle George character results from the "never-resolved implication of the paternity of the Indian child". Was Uncle George purported to be be father of the Indian child, or what? Thanks, Manny may ( talk) 03:01, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello there. Firstly I'd just like to say well done on getting this to FA status, but I do have a point that I'd like to raise; this article talks about "Indians" in the opening introduction, but I (as an English Wikipedian) immediately assumed that they were talking about the people of the Indian subcontinent; only reading on did I come to assume that the article was in fact discussing Native American "Indians". This really needs to be made clearer, as for millions around the world the term "Indian" does not naturally conjure up the idea of Indigenous Americans. ( Midnightblueowl ( talk) 16:21, 13 October 2011 (UTC))
As an extension to my previous point (see above), I was wondering if there was an information on which particular Indigenous tribal and/or ethnic group the "Indian camp" belonged to ? If this knowledge was known then it would surely be of great relevance to the article. ( Midnightblueowl ( talk) 19:52, 13 October 2011 (UTC))
How about simply referring to an "unspecified Native American people in northern North America", as the term "Native American" includes not only the peoples of the contemporary U.S. and Canada, but the peoples of Mexico, Peru, Bolivia etc. ? ( Midnightblueowl ( talk) 20:24, 15 October 2011 (UTC))
and thanks a lot to the main author (Truthkeeper88 ?). Just wanted to add : I thought the photo of Ernest & Hadley in 1922 had been taken in Chamby, a little village above Montreux , Switzerland ( I live nearby, on the southern shore). Many thanks nevertheless : great text. T.y. Arapaima ( talk) 18:48, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
Is reference 23 formatted correctly? Surely it should be Meyers 1985, pp. 120–208, 560 as opposed to the current Meyers 1985, pp. 560, 208–120? -- Cassianto Talk 17:29, 20 June 2013 (UTC)