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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
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The result was: promoted by
Yoninah (
talk) 17:52, 21 November 2020 (UTC)reply
ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
The article is long enough and new enough. I see no copyright violations. I assume good faith on the offline references. A QPQ has been completed. The hook is directly cited. The first 7 items under List of joint and integrated commands need to be referenced, despite them having articles.
SL93 (
talk) 19:03, 14 November 2020 (UTC)reply
References added.
DTM (
talk) 07:16, 16 November 2020 (UTC)reply
This is ready.
SL93 (
talk) 18:31, 17 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Hi, I came by to promote this, but reading the first sentence of the lead feels like jumping into an ocean without a paddle. What is this article about? Please start with a statement of fact: Jointness and integration in the Indian military refers to ... Thanks,
Yoninah (
talk) 20:59, 17 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Pinging
DiplomatTesterMan to fix Yoninah's issue with the lead. Just in case the talk page comment wasn't noticed.
SL93 (
talk) 20:47, 18 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Thank you for the ping. I will make the changes asap.
DTM (
talk) 09:26, 19 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Yoninah I just noticed that the lead was updated.
SL93 (
talk) 19:33, 20 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Yoninah and
SL93, I have made more changes. I think this should do it now...?
DTM (
talk) 12:48, 21 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Yes, the lead reads much better, thanks. Restoring tick for online book source per SL93's review.
Yoninah (
talk) 17:49, 21 November 2020 (UTC)reply
title
is 'jointness' a suitable word? what about "inter-service cooperation"
GraemeLeggett (
talk) 14:10, 14 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Jointness is a suitable word, as per the references used, and accordingly the scope of the article.
Take for example usage of the word "Jointness" in the reference
"Joint Doctrine: Indian Armed Forces". There is an entire section called "SECTION I - UNDERSTANDING INTEGRATION AND JOINTNESS" (pg.39). The word is used 14 times in the document.
Other references in the article with jointness in the title itself: "Enhancing Jointness in Indian Armed Forces: Case for Unified Commands", "Jointness in India’s Military —What it is and What it Must Be" etc
If somehow 'joint' (from
joint warfare) could be placed in the title instead of 'jointness', maybe it would sound better. But cooperation is not a substitute for the word in the context of the article or the references mentioned above. I have used 'inter services cooperation' for the DYK hook as per the quote and the time period of war it references, 1971; as a precursor to the modern usage, and accordingly its placement is in the beginning of the history section. While upfront "inter-service cooperation" my be easier for the general public to understand, don't you think that the phrase does not cover the scope that the article currently aims to cover?DTM (
talk) 10:48, 16 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Actually, inter-service cooperation is a hot contender for the title. As for now I will include it clearly into the lead, also as per suggestion of dyk nom
DTM (
talk) 09:21, 19 November 2020 (UTC)reply
I've got three variations of the word now - joint, jointness and jointmanship.
DTM (
talk) 09:52, 19 November 2020 (UTC)reply
A fact from Indian Armed Forces Tri-Service Commands appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 2 December 2020 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
This article is within the scope of WikiProject India, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of
India-related topics. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page.IndiaWikipedia:WikiProject IndiaTemplate:WikiProject IndiaIndia articles
This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a
list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the
full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history articles
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Yoninah (
talk) 17:52, 21 November 2020 (UTC)reply
ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
The article is long enough and new enough. I see no copyright violations. I assume good faith on the offline references. A QPQ has been completed. The hook is directly cited. The first 7 items under List of joint and integrated commands need to be referenced, despite them having articles.
SL93 (
talk) 19:03, 14 November 2020 (UTC)reply
References added.
DTM (
talk) 07:16, 16 November 2020 (UTC)reply
This is ready.
SL93 (
talk) 18:31, 17 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Hi, I came by to promote this, but reading the first sentence of the lead feels like jumping into an ocean without a paddle. What is this article about? Please start with a statement of fact: Jointness and integration in the Indian military refers to ... Thanks,
Yoninah (
talk) 20:59, 17 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Pinging
DiplomatTesterMan to fix Yoninah's issue with the lead. Just in case the talk page comment wasn't noticed.
SL93 (
talk) 20:47, 18 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Thank you for the ping. I will make the changes asap.
DTM (
talk) 09:26, 19 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Yoninah I just noticed that the lead was updated.
SL93 (
talk) 19:33, 20 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Yoninah and
SL93, I have made more changes. I think this should do it now...?
DTM (
talk) 12:48, 21 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Yes, the lead reads much better, thanks. Restoring tick for online book source per SL93's review.
Yoninah (
talk) 17:49, 21 November 2020 (UTC)reply
title
is 'jointness' a suitable word? what about "inter-service cooperation"
GraemeLeggett (
talk) 14:10, 14 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Jointness is a suitable word, as per the references used, and accordingly the scope of the article.
Take for example usage of the word "Jointness" in the reference
"Joint Doctrine: Indian Armed Forces". There is an entire section called "SECTION I - UNDERSTANDING INTEGRATION AND JOINTNESS" (pg.39). The word is used 14 times in the document.
Other references in the article with jointness in the title itself: "Enhancing Jointness in Indian Armed Forces: Case for Unified Commands", "Jointness in India’s Military —What it is and What it Must Be" etc
If somehow 'joint' (from
joint warfare) could be placed in the title instead of 'jointness', maybe it would sound better. But cooperation is not a substitute for the word in the context of the article or the references mentioned above. I have used 'inter services cooperation' for the DYK hook as per the quote and the time period of war it references, 1971; as a precursor to the modern usage, and accordingly its placement is in the beginning of the history section. While upfront "inter-service cooperation" my be easier for the general public to understand, don't you think that the phrase does not cover the scope that the article currently aims to cover?DTM (
talk) 10:48, 16 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Actually, inter-service cooperation is a hot contender for the title. As for now I will include it clearly into the lead, also as per suggestion of dyk nom
DTM (
talk) 09:21, 19 November 2020 (UTC)reply
I've got three variations of the word now - joint, jointness and jointmanship.
DTM (
talk) 09:52, 19 November 2020 (UTC)reply