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I think this is a huge question that really needs to be answered on this page. I've heard a couple people wondering what Obama could possibly have traded to give into signing indefinite detention into law. The answer is that it was part of a budget bill, a compromise to the huge mess that Congress has been fighting over for a while. Getting that into encyclopedic wording with appropriate references will take me longer, so feel free. The simplest option might be a few words describing what the National Defense Authorization Act is, after mentioning it's what Obama signed. — Darxus ( talk) 17:39, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
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Indefinite detention without trial → Indefinite detention – This was moved from the shorter title without discussion several years ago in order to create the current WP:TWODABS page now at Indefinite detention. Although there are rare instances of a indefinite civil detention following a trial, the overwhelming majority of real world instances and references for use of the phrase involve people detained without a trial. It is the very fact of a trial that changes the nature of the confinement from indefinite detention to either a prison sentence or civil commitment. Furthermore, the other title on the page, Mental Health Act 1983, is not a matching title, and we have no other article with the title, "Indefinite detention". Move this page and quash the unnecessary disambiguation page. bd2412 T 02:01, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
Update Indefinite detention § United States ?
Trump's DoJ asked Congress to allow chief judges to detain people indefinitely without trial during emergencies.
In one request, the DoJ asked Congress to give the attorney general ( William Barr, implied in ref) and top judges broad powers that would allow them to pause court proceedings during emergencies or “whenever the district court is fully or partially closed by virtue of any natural disaster, civil disobedience, or other emergency situation.” These new powers would apply to “any statutes or rules of procedure otherwise affecting pre-arrest, post-arrest, pre-trial, trial, and post-trial procedures in criminal and juvenile proceedings and all civil process and proceedings.”
The DoJ’s requests are unlikely to make it through a Democratic-led House.
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I think this is a huge question that really needs to be answered on this page. I've heard a couple people wondering what Obama could possibly have traded to give into signing indefinite detention into law. The answer is that it was part of a budget bill, a compromise to the huge mess that Congress has been fighting over for a while. Getting that into encyclopedic wording with appropriate references will take me longer, so feel free. The simplest option might be a few words describing what the National Defense Authorization Act is, after mentioning it's what Obama signed. — Darxus ( talk) 17:39, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) qedk ( t 桜 c) 12:12, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
![]() | The request to rename this article to Indefinite detention has been carried out. |
Indefinite detention without trial → Indefinite detention – This was moved from the shorter title without discussion several years ago in order to create the current WP:TWODABS page now at Indefinite detention. Although there are rare instances of a indefinite civil detention following a trial, the overwhelming majority of real world instances and references for use of the phrase involve people detained without a trial. It is the very fact of a trial that changes the nature of the confinement from indefinite detention to either a prison sentence or civil commitment. Furthermore, the other title on the page, Mental Health Act 1983, is not a matching title, and we have no other article with the title, "Indefinite detention". Move this page and quash the unnecessary disambiguation page. bd2412 T 02:01, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
Update Indefinite detention § United States ?
Trump's DoJ asked Congress to allow chief judges to detain people indefinitely without trial during emergencies.
In one request, the DoJ asked Congress to give the attorney general ( William Barr, implied in ref) and top judges broad powers that would allow them to pause court proceedings during emergencies or “whenever the district court is fully or partially closed by virtue of any natural disaster, civil disobedience, or other emergency situation.” These new powers would apply to “any statutes or rules of procedure otherwise affecting pre-arrest, post-arrest, pre-trial, trial, and post-trial procedures in criminal and juvenile proceedings and all civil process and proceedings.”
The DoJ’s requests are unlikely to make it through a Democratic-led House.
X1\ ( talk) 20:48, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
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