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Quite often, there are changes to the name of track 10. It should be Untitled without quotation marks, as it is untitled, not called "Untitled", as in the track listing of the album it says:
9 Ghost
10
11 Two-Headed Boy, Pt. 2
As far as I am aware, it is not called "The Penny Arcade in California", although it is listed so in a number of places on t'internet. In the 33 1/3 book (p35) it says:
It appears that on of the band members brought a recording device to the Musée [Musée Mechanique, collection of vintage penny arcade machines], then used the sound somewhere on In the Aeroplane over the Sea, explaining the notation "A Penny Arcade in California" that appears in the track listing on the poster included with the "Holland, 1945" single.
If anyone has a copy of said poster, please let me know whether "A Penny Arcade in California" is the title of the untitled track according to the poster...
-- JuPitEer 16:26, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Was it literally blanked out or was it titled '[untitled]'? I've removed the name from the syntax altogether.-- Ilovetopaint ( talk) 02:27, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
MOS:CT says that prepositions with four or fewer letters should not be capitalized. Based on that rule, the title should be rendered as In the Aeroplane over the Sea. There was no discussion the last time this issue came up, just a change. Is there a reason we should not change the title to bring it into compliance with Wikipedia's Manual of Style? — C.Fred ( talk) 13:44, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
Removed line "It was the sixth-highest selling vinyl album of 2008" for redundancy because it occurs twice within the same paragraph. I left the second instance because it seems to come more naturally after the report of the 2008 album sales. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:579:5214:2500:B9C2:67A9:6CFA:C17 ( talk) 19:55, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
Maybe it's my impression but I feel like on other albums the reviews upon release are distinguished between more contemporary reappraisals of the album that come later. It seems like it would be even more important for an album like this one: while it may have always been generally viewed favorably by critics, it became mythic long after it's release. Even later less fawning reviews generally acknowledge that view isn't the consensus. But this article seems to mix the timely reviews with the more contemporary without distinguishing the two, and the change in how the album was viewed over time ends up lost in the shuffle. Gripdamage ( talk) 20:09, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
First off, never thought I'd type a title like that on Wikipedia.
@ Brandt Luke Zorn: Anyway, my question is, wouldn't the sentence "Memes about In the Aeroplane Over the Sea proliferated on websites like 4chan, reflecting a wave of "hipster" listeners who first discovered the album online, long after the band had broken up" be better for the legacy section? I don't know a lot about the "history of memes" or what exactly was being said on message boards when the album came out (I discovered this album almost 20 years after it came out), but I'd assume the memes weren't really a thing when Mangum disappeared. Yes there were some rabid fans as Kim Cooper states in her book, but the memes didn't come until later. Famous Hobo ( talk) 07:56, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
NME (for The 500 Greatest Albums Of All Time) currently lists the author as "Emily Barker" [1]. Also is there any natural way to wikilink their respective article for top 500s ( NME's The 500 Greatest Albums of All Time and Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time). Spy-cicle💥 Talk? 20:31, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
Does anyone know why they used the British spelling of "aeroplane"? -- DrJos ( talk) 10:01, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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Quite often, there are changes to the name of track 10. It should be Untitled without quotation marks, as it is untitled, not called "Untitled", as in the track listing of the album it says:
9 Ghost
10
11 Two-Headed Boy, Pt. 2
As far as I am aware, it is not called "The Penny Arcade in California", although it is listed so in a number of places on t'internet. In the 33 1/3 book (p35) it says:
It appears that on of the band members brought a recording device to the Musée [Musée Mechanique, collection of vintage penny arcade machines], then used the sound somewhere on In the Aeroplane over the Sea, explaining the notation "A Penny Arcade in California" that appears in the track listing on the poster included with the "Holland, 1945" single.
If anyone has a copy of said poster, please let me know whether "A Penny Arcade in California" is the title of the untitled track according to the poster...
-- JuPitEer 16:26, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Was it literally blanked out or was it titled '[untitled]'? I've removed the name from the syntax altogether.-- Ilovetopaint ( talk) 02:27, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
MOS:CT says that prepositions with four or fewer letters should not be capitalized. Based on that rule, the title should be rendered as In the Aeroplane over the Sea. There was no discussion the last time this issue came up, just a change. Is there a reason we should not change the title to bring it into compliance with Wikipedia's Manual of Style? — C.Fred ( talk) 13:44, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
Removed line "It was the sixth-highest selling vinyl album of 2008" for redundancy because it occurs twice within the same paragraph. I left the second instance because it seems to come more naturally after the report of the 2008 album sales. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:579:5214:2500:B9C2:67A9:6CFA:C17 ( talk) 19:55, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
Maybe it's my impression but I feel like on other albums the reviews upon release are distinguished between more contemporary reappraisals of the album that come later. It seems like it would be even more important for an album like this one: while it may have always been generally viewed favorably by critics, it became mythic long after it's release. Even later less fawning reviews generally acknowledge that view isn't the consensus. But this article seems to mix the timely reviews with the more contemporary without distinguishing the two, and the change in how the album was viewed over time ends up lost in the shuffle. Gripdamage ( talk) 20:09, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
First off, never thought I'd type a title like that on Wikipedia.
@ Brandt Luke Zorn: Anyway, my question is, wouldn't the sentence "Memes about In the Aeroplane Over the Sea proliferated on websites like 4chan, reflecting a wave of "hipster" listeners who first discovered the album online, long after the band had broken up" be better for the legacy section? I don't know a lot about the "history of memes" or what exactly was being said on message boards when the album came out (I discovered this album almost 20 years after it came out), but I'd assume the memes weren't really a thing when Mangum disappeared. Yes there were some rabid fans as Kim Cooper states in her book, but the memes didn't come until later. Famous Hobo ( talk) 07:56, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
NME (for The 500 Greatest Albums Of All Time) currently lists the author as "Emily Barker" [1]. Also is there any natural way to wikilink their respective article for top 500s ( NME's The 500 Greatest Albums of All Time and Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time). Spy-cicle💥 Talk? 20:31, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
Does anyone know why they used the British spelling of "aeroplane"? -- DrJos ( talk) 10:01, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect
Up and Over and has thus listed it
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Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 14#Up and Over until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.
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20:51, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect
Untitled Neutral Milk Hotel song and has thus listed it
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Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 17#Untitled Neutral Milk Hotel song until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.
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18:47, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
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18:53, 17 March 2022 (UTC)