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Made some changes to these sections (added the Education section) in order to make the page more reader-friendly. No major edits. Mk30662n ( talk) 05:34, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
This section had very little information, so I added more info with valid references of course. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mk30662n ( talk • contribs) 17:33, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
That would make sense if any of it was "fluff"...the additions I made were simple facts about his involvement with MQM. Completely unbiased information. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia--so the argument "less is more" does not fit in here. If people are out to learn about Dr. Imran Farooq, I doubt they want five lines about his life.--Mk30662n
Your additions are not noteworthy and this is not a place for promotion of an organization, the content you are adding would fit better somewhere else and adds nothing educational or informative at all, in fact, your additions make the article less readable and less encyclopedic. Off2riorob ( talk) 20:53, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Mk30662n, I guess that I agree with Off2riorob. Wikipedia is more or a reader-oriented website. You might want to create separate sections so that those who are not interested in those sections may just ignore it. Someone can then shuffle the categories in terms of importance/relevance. Just my two cents. M12390 ( talk) 23:35, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
What's up with the info plate next? Is identifying one's religion now standard for say.. politicians? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.185.244.84 ( talk) 17:37, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
A user keeps adding this without a supporting WP:RS can someone cite it and replace it, thanks. Off2riorob ( talk) 11:36, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
He had a Muhajir background. Imran Farooq was a doctor and had graduated from the Dow Medical College, Karachi in 1985.
Muhajir people are those who are predominantly native Urdu speaking Muslims of British India, migrated to Pakistan following independence in 1947. His father Farooq Ahmed was born in British India and migrated to Pakistan following independence in 1947 that's why Farooq had a Muhajir background. -- Saqib Qayyum ( talk) 13:33, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
I can't say this to you again it is repetitive, go get yourself a WP:RS , also when you have the citation we can add that about his father without a citation we can not, also even when cited that puts his father is the cat but not this person, he was born and bred in Pakistan, this person was not an immigrant. Off2riorob ( talk) 13:37, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
I don't really care about history and claims, also ignore all rules does not apply to additions to a blp. I fail to understand why you have not added this citation? (looking at it again it doesn't appear to be a wiki reliable source)Please do not add he has a immigrant background without explaining what that is referring to . why?, when? who? and where? Off2riorob ( talk) 15:33, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi, this source is ok but is clearly not correct as " Dr. Imran was from Bihar and therefore was known as a Bihari Mohajar" - the comment is half correct, but Dr Imran was not from Bihar, he was born in Pakistan Karachi. .. so I wouldn't use it for that, the story is .. Imran Farooq's father was from bihar and moved during the partition and Imran was born in Karachi, Imran is therefore the son of a Bihari Mohajair ... but I don't see the father in there, I have seen in one of the cites about his fathers position in the political house, but not for the fact that the father was from Bihar, so that comment although a bit cited is still not clearly correctly cited by using that cite...can we find the comments about his father being from Bihar and moving during partition in a cite? Off2riorob (talk) 16:19, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
[3] [4] [5] The three were cited as "promotion," however if one sees the WP:RS it is not promotion but relevant to the context that the 2 did have a close relationship (they are after all in the same party too). Furthermore, the 2nd 2 links are reactions to his death -- as per reaction lists on deaths or attacks anywhere on wiki[edia. Lihaas ( talk) 23:17, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
The content is not in the cite and the subject is not an immigrant but was born in Pakistan. ' Farooq has a Muhajir background is not cited in this reference. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/the-murder-in-suburbia-that-sent-shockwaves-across-the-world-2082697.html also there is no citation that calls him a Muhajir and he was not an immigrant he was born in Pakistan , his father was a Muhajir and as yet I have not even seen that cited. Off2riorob ( talk) 19:00, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
After staying for months to call Imran Farooq a "Muhajir" it is now his father who is being called a "Muhajir". That labeling is about a living person and must be handled properly. M12390 ( talk) 02:24, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
The effort to introduce the word Muhajir in Imran Farooq's pages has been going on for months. Now it is claimed that a consensus has been reached. Hardly. The reference used is an obscure source that does not even substantiate what one of the authors has been trying to introduce in this page. The consensus is figment of one author's imagination. Interesting thing is that this particular author has been threatening about banning me for as long a time. M12390 ( talk) 01:15, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
http://pakistanthinktank.org/component/k2/item/749-imran-farooq-was-a-ruthless-operator
This is an attack cite against this person with some extreme allegations against the person and it should not be used to source anything in his article. Off2riorob ( talk) 11:58, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
This is obviously not a WP:RS. The link should be removed. Nanobear ( talk) 20:42, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
There seems to be next to no infomation whatsoever on the killer. Considering the killer is still at large there should surely be some infomation?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.79.71 ( talk) 16:18, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
No motive is given for the murder. If no motive has ever been uncovered, the article should say that instead of leaving the reader hanging. howcheng { chat} 18:26, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
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Made some changes to these sections (added the Education section) in order to make the page more reader-friendly. No major edits. Mk30662n ( talk) 05:34, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
This section had very little information, so I added more info with valid references of course. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mk30662n ( talk • contribs) 17:33, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
That would make sense if any of it was "fluff"...the additions I made were simple facts about his involvement with MQM. Completely unbiased information. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia--so the argument "less is more" does not fit in here. If people are out to learn about Dr. Imran Farooq, I doubt they want five lines about his life.--Mk30662n
Your additions are not noteworthy and this is not a place for promotion of an organization, the content you are adding would fit better somewhere else and adds nothing educational or informative at all, in fact, your additions make the article less readable and less encyclopedic. Off2riorob ( talk) 20:53, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Mk30662n, I guess that I agree with Off2riorob. Wikipedia is more or a reader-oriented website. You might want to create separate sections so that those who are not interested in those sections may just ignore it. Someone can then shuffle the categories in terms of importance/relevance. Just my two cents. M12390 ( talk) 23:35, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
What's up with the info plate next? Is identifying one's religion now standard for say.. politicians? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.185.244.84 ( talk) 17:37, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
A user keeps adding this without a supporting WP:RS can someone cite it and replace it, thanks. Off2riorob ( talk) 11:36, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
He had a Muhajir background. Imran Farooq was a doctor and had graduated from the Dow Medical College, Karachi in 1985.
Muhajir people are those who are predominantly native Urdu speaking Muslims of British India, migrated to Pakistan following independence in 1947. His father Farooq Ahmed was born in British India and migrated to Pakistan following independence in 1947 that's why Farooq had a Muhajir background. -- Saqib Qayyum ( talk) 13:33, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
I can't say this to you again it is repetitive, go get yourself a WP:RS , also when you have the citation we can add that about his father without a citation we can not, also even when cited that puts his father is the cat but not this person, he was born and bred in Pakistan, this person was not an immigrant. Off2riorob ( talk) 13:37, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
I don't really care about history and claims, also ignore all rules does not apply to additions to a blp. I fail to understand why you have not added this citation? (looking at it again it doesn't appear to be a wiki reliable source)Please do not add he has a immigrant background without explaining what that is referring to . why?, when? who? and where? Off2riorob ( talk) 15:33, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi, this source is ok but is clearly not correct as " Dr. Imran was from Bihar and therefore was known as a Bihari Mohajar" - the comment is half correct, but Dr Imran was not from Bihar, he was born in Pakistan Karachi. .. so I wouldn't use it for that, the story is .. Imran Farooq's father was from bihar and moved during the partition and Imran was born in Karachi, Imran is therefore the son of a Bihari Mohajair ... but I don't see the father in there, I have seen in one of the cites about his fathers position in the political house, but not for the fact that the father was from Bihar, so that comment although a bit cited is still not clearly correctly cited by using that cite...can we find the comments about his father being from Bihar and moving during partition in a cite? Off2riorob (talk) 16:19, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
[3] [4] [5] The three were cited as "promotion," however if one sees the WP:RS it is not promotion but relevant to the context that the 2 did have a close relationship (they are after all in the same party too). Furthermore, the 2nd 2 links are reactions to his death -- as per reaction lists on deaths or attacks anywhere on wiki[edia. Lihaas ( talk) 23:17, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
The content is not in the cite and the subject is not an immigrant but was born in Pakistan. ' Farooq has a Muhajir background is not cited in this reference. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/the-murder-in-suburbia-that-sent-shockwaves-across-the-world-2082697.html also there is no citation that calls him a Muhajir and he was not an immigrant he was born in Pakistan , his father was a Muhajir and as yet I have not even seen that cited. Off2riorob ( talk) 19:00, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
After staying for months to call Imran Farooq a "Muhajir" it is now his father who is being called a "Muhajir". That labeling is about a living person and must be handled properly. M12390 ( talk) 02:24, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
The effort to introduce the word Muhajir in Imran Farooq's pages has been going on for months. Now it is claimed that a consensus has been reached. Hardly. The reference used is an obscure source that does not even substantiate what one of the authors has been trying to introduce in this page. The consensus is figment of one author's imagination. Interesting thing is that this particular author has been threatening about banning me for as long a time. M12390 ( talk) 01:15, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
http://pakistanthinktank.org/component/k2/item/749-imran-farooq-was-a-ruthless-operator
This is an attack cite against this person with some extreme allegations against the person and it should not be used to source anything in his article. Off2riorob ( talk) 11:58, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
This is obviously not a WP:RS. The link should be removed. Nanobear ( talk) 20:42, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
There seems to be next to no infomation whatsoever on the killer. Considering the killer is still at large there should surely be some infomation?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.79.71 ( talk) 16:18, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
No motive is given for the murder. If no motive has ever been uncovered, the article should say that instead of leaving the reader hanging. howcheng { chat} 18:26, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
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