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What I think of as the Imperial Hotel in Portland used to be a fairly inexpensive accommodation that has been renovated and is now called the Hotel Lucia. I'm not sure of its historic status or if it also had a former name. Does this page need to be moved to the current name, Vintage Plaza, so Imperial Hotel can be made into a disambiguation page? The Lucia/Imperial was so-named for as long as I can remember. Did Vintage Plaza have any intervening alternate names? Katr67 ( talk) 22:38, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
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The following coordinate fixes are needed for Hotel Vintage Plaza. The marker for it is in the middle of the road in front of a building next door. It should be at 45°31'14.70"N 122°40'42.95"W.
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It is proposed that Kimpton Hotel Vintage Portland (created about one week ago) be merged into this article, as both are about the exact same building – one using the historic name, under which it is listed on the National Register of Historic Places and the Portland Historic Landmarks list, and the other its current (since 2015) name, and the latter mostly just duplicates this article. It appears to have created by an editor (probably connected with the hotel) who was unhappy that their efforts to change the title of the article to Kimpton Hotel Vintage Portland were reverted; the latter name was already prominently mentioned in the Imperial Hotel article, in the very first sentence (until I moved it to the third sentence, only after the duplicative article was created) and in the infobox photo caption, but that was apparently not satisfactory to this editor or editors who repeatedly tried to change the infobox heading and hatnote to the Kimpton name, and eventually created the separate Kimpton article. I had explained (via edit summaries) that Imperial Hotel will always be the building's historic name, and that the titles of WP articles on NRHP-listed buildings often use their historic (as opposed to current) names (and {{ Infobox NRHP}} is always supposed to use the NRHP listing name, per WP:NRHPMOS). Also, this article's content is almost entirely – all but two sentences – about the building's use before it became the Kimpton Hotel Vintage Portland. Almost all of the content in the original version of the Kimpton Hotel Vintage Portland article was quickly deleted, to avoid speedy deletion after another editor tagged it for such as being essentially advertising for the current hotel. Content retained or added subsequently makes the current version almost entirely duplicative of the content in the Imperial Hotel article.
This discussion is primarily about merging two duplicative articles, but if a merge is made, it would be reasonable to open a discussion about whether to rename the resulting, merged article under the newer name. I am not aware of a clear standard for how to treat the titles of WP articles about NRHP-listed hotel buildings that are still in business as hotels but under another name. In Portland, most NRHP-listed hotel buildings are either no longer in operation as hotels (and virtually all of these use the NRHP-listed former hotel name for their Wikipedia article titles) or retain their original names (the Benson, the Heathman). However, the New Imperial Hotel article has not been renamed Hotel Lucia. – SJ Morg ( talk) 14:19, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
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What I think of as the Imperial Hotel in Portland used to be a fairly inexpensive accommodation that has been renovated and is now called the Hotel Lucia. I'm not sure of its historic status or if it also had a former name. Does this page need to be moved to the current name, Vintage Plaza, so Imperial Hotel can be made into a disambiguation page? The Lucia/Imperial was so-named for as long as I can remember. Did Vintage Plaza have any intervening alternate names? Katr67 ( talk) 22:38, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
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The following coordinate fixes are needed for Hotel Vintage Plaza. The marker for it is in the middle of the road in front of a building next door. It should be at 45°31'14.70"N 122°40'42.95"W.
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76.105.145.143 (
talk) 21:44, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
It is proposed that Kimpton Hotel Vintage Portland (created about one week ago) be merged into this article, as both are about the exact same building – one using the historic name, under which it is listed on the National Register of Historic Places and the Portland Historic Landmarks list, and the other its current (since 2015) name, and the latter mostly just duplicates this article. It appears to have created by an editor (probably connected with the hotel) who was unhappy that their efforts to change the title of the article to Kimpton Hotel Vintage Portland were reverted; the latter name was already prominently mentioned in the Imperial Hotel article, in the very first sentence (until I moved it to the third sentence, only after the duplicative article was created) and in the infobox photo caption, but that was apparently not satisfactory to this editor or editors who repeatedly tried to change the infobox heading and hatnote to the Kimpton name, and eventually created the separate Kimpton article. I had explained (via edit summaries) that Imperial Hotel will always be the building's historic name, and that the titles of WP articles on NRHP-listed buildings often use their historic (as opposed to current) names (and {{ Infobox NRHP}} is always supposed to use the NRHP listing name, per WP:NRHPMOS). Also, this article's content is almost entirely – all but two sentences – about the building's use before it became the Kimpton Hotel Vintage Portland. Almost all of the content in the original version of the Kimpton Hotel Vintage Portland article was quickly deleted, to avoid speedy deletion after another editor tagged it for such as being essentially advertising for the current hotel. Content retained or added subsequently makes the current version almost entirely duplicative of the content in the Imperial Hotel article.
This discussion is primarily about merging two duplicative articles, but if a merge is made, it would be reasonable to open a discussion about whether to rename the resulting, merged article under the newer name. I am not aware of a clear standard for how to treat the titles of WP articles about NRHP-listed hotel buildings that are still in business as hotels but under another name. In Portland, most NRHP-listed hotel buildings are either no longer in operation as hotels (and virtually all of these use the NRHP-listed former hotel name for their Wikipedia article titles) or retain their original names (the Benson, the Heathman). However, the New Imperial Hotel article has not been renamed Hotel Lucia. – SJ Morg ( talk) 14:19, 29 September 2016 (UTC)