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I do agree the band has developed a more melodic sound over the years. Still, it nothing to be compared with like Dimmu Borgir or the like. Therefore I think it should be noted that they play Black metal with melodic influences, rather than to say they play Melodic black metal, period. Resilldoux ( talk) 14:08, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Now that you say it, I agree with you. It would be fair to say the band has melodic ELEMENTS not influences. Also they do not use keyboards or synthesizers or wt ever there called :P. So lets change back to just black metal because its still very extreme and lives up to the standard, I do not see see melodic influences very important so I'll move it down a bit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.2.212.116 ( talk) 14:23, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Yes, elements, that the right word. =) Resilldoux ( talk) 11:10, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
They do use keyboards/ synths, though. Think of the intro to At The Heart of Winter or the middle section of Beyond The North Waves. Though they don't use it as a lead instrument. - Tulloch Gorum from Lesmahagow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.81.255.83 ( talk) 22:25, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
If the band isn't satanic, nor do they "espouse Satanism", what's up with the Pure Holocaust album cover (which features an inverted cross and an inverted pentagram). That kinda tells me that they're kinda... satanic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.214.173.152 ( talk) 21:34, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Just thought I would clear up some sentences, and make the page look a little neater. Some more POV statements were reworded, and some information was corrected/cited. -- Ryouga 05:26, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
There's an awful lot of red links towards the bottom of the page, how do you suggest we deal with this? HAIL IMMORTAL! Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 23:15, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
..in when the band was formed, which technically is 1989 because the band 'Amputation' basically merged into Immortal, because every band member of the group then was also in Immortal once it was formed. Okram 09 ( talk) 09:50, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
also noting i made an addition of the band starting as Old Funeral, and Amputation, because both bands merged into Immortal. though you will notice that it is apparent that Old Funeral attempted to continue, though split up shortly after. the reason i am merging Old funeral with immortal is because it was the original band basically until the band's name changed. the old funeral page is still there as well, though i suggest a full merge into the immortal page. 58.168.71.201 ( talk) 01:49, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
it says 'The band was formed by Abbath Doom Occulta after his previous band, Amputation did not lift off' but i thought it was actually Demonaz who formed Amputation. i thought that abbath started old funeral, demonaz joined afterwards, then left to start amputation, then abbath left old funeral to join amputation, then immortal came from that. some possible citations: http://www.rockdetector.com/officialbio,4324.sm and http://www.blackmetal.com/cgi-bin/gold/category.cgi?item=NB66120CD&type=store&category=search. but obviously i'm not claiming to be an expert, or definitely right :D. -- Gpmuscillo ( talk) 23:41, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
This article is full of opinionated stuff with no citations, like for instance "They are often noted as having created their own niche in black metal which has guaranteed them a spot on the list of the best bands in the history of the genre. Several classic albums such as Pure Holocaust, Battles In The North, At The Heart Of Winter and Sons Of Northern Darkness also help to solidify their status". Someone should flag the article as ... well as something. I don't know how. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.202.209.162 ( talk) 21:47, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
While it appears unfounded after a long dissapearance they were able to headline Wacken... something that a notewoirthy band could only really do after such an absence. cyclonis12
I removed all statements without citations, most of which was biased, if anyone has a problem with that, you can revert to a previous version or rewrite it. Terminxman ( talk) 13:16, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Since the unfounded statements about church burnings and stuff has been (thankfully) removed, shouldn't we remove the neutrality part from the tag? MammonI.Dumah ( talk) 12:16, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing out these issues. While I think some of these may be circumveneted by changing the wording, I think the rest of the text (about the album cover, music video) refers to their status as a meme. While I think this can be proven quite easily, I'm not sure what constitutes a good citation about memes. MammonI.Dumah ( talk) 19:41, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
Is it just me or is this section mostly ridiculous? Also, I don't see the notability. If anything it's only worth a short mention that the band writes a lot in their lyrics about a fictional ice kingdom called Blashyrkh. Not a whole section, though. Navnløs ( talk) 16:26, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Immortal (band)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
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Motörhead wasn't punk rock ... but they were the first metal band to harness that energy and, in the process, they created speed metal and thrash metal.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 17:03, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
All three genres in the infobox are sourced. If other editors believe that certain genres should not be included in the infobox, bring it up here and discuss it. Do not just start warring over the genres again. This is unproductive and will simply be reverted to the current, sourced state. MrMoustacheMM ( talk) 21:24, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
[undent] I like how it looks now. I think this is a reasonable compromise; we show all three, but declare "death metal" to specifically refer to their early (demo) material, and putting it last in the list doesn't make it as prominent as the other two genres.
I also notice that the one user who caused all the disruptive editing in the first place has just been banned for sockpuppetry. MrMoustacheMM ( talk) 22:13, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
According to official site it's 1990. Some sources claim that Amputation renamed into Immortal, so Immortal founded in 1989. Others say that Amputation <> Immortal. Finally, Varg noted that even 1990 is fake and Immortal founded later ( link). I think it's not correct to consider one date as only one true, we should mention all different opinions. -- Sigwald ( talk) 14:49, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
Some kind of summary: Allmusic - 1990, musicmight - 1990 in text, old official site - 1990, this interview - 1990. I think that's enough, so i'll change foundation year back to 1990. -- Sigwald ( talk) 06:59, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
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While he wasn't noted on the Official website recently, he was never official fired or quit the band. He most likely wasn't noted because he is the most recent of the members in the band. He has been in several bands at the same time through out the years. So where did he or the band official state he was out? Devilmanozzy ( talk) 18:02, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
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I do agree the band has developed a more melodic sound over the years. Still, it nothing to be compared with like Dimmu Borgir or the like. Therefore I think it should be noted that they play Black metal with melodic influences, rather than to say they play Melodic black metal, period. Resilldoux ( talk) 14:08, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Now that you say it, I agree with you. It would be fair to say the band has melodic ELEMENTS not influences. Also they do not use keyboards or synthesizers or wt ever there called :P. So lets change back to just black metal because its still very extreme and lives up to the standard, I do not see see melodic influences very important so I'll move it down a bit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.2.212.116 ( talk) 14:23, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Yes, elements, that the right word. =) Resilldoux ( talk) 11:10, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
They do use keyboards/ synths, though. Think of the intro to At The Heart of Winter or the middle section of Beyond The North Waves. Though they don't use it as a lead instrument. - Tulloch Gorum from Lesmahagow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.81.255.83 ( talk) 22:25, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
If the band isn't satanic, nor do they "espouse Satanism", what's up with the Pure Holocaust album cover (which features an inverted cross and an inverted pentagram). That kinda tells me that they're kinda... satanic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.214.173.152 ( talk) 21:34, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Just thought I would clear up some sentences, and make the page look a little neater. Some more POV statements were reworded, and some information was corrected/cited. -- Ryouga 05:26, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
There's an awful lot of red links towards the bottom of the page, how do you suggest we deal with this? HAIL IMMORTAL! Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 23:15, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
..in when the band was formed, which technically is 1989 because the band 'Amputation' basically merged into Immortal, because every band member of the group then was also in Immortal once it was formed. Okram 09 ( talk) 09:50, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
also noting i made an addition of the band starting as Old Funeral, and Amputation, because both bands merged into Immortal. though you will notice that it is apparent that Old Funeral attempted to continue, though split up shortly after. the reason i am merging Old funeral with immortal is because it was the original band basically until the band's name changed. the old funeral page is still there as well, though i suggest a full merge into the immortal page. 58.168.71.201 ( talk) 01:49, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
it says 'The band was formed by Abbath Doom Occulta after his previous band, Amputation did not lift off' but i thought it was actually Demonaz who formed Amputation. i thought that abbath started old funeral, demonaz joined afterwards, then left to start amputation, then abbath left old funeral to join amputation, then immortal came from that. some possible citations: http://www.rockdetector.com/officialbio,4324.sm and http://www.blackmetal.com/cgi-bin/gold/category.cgi?item=NB66120CD&type=store&category=search. but obviously i'm not claiming to be an expert, or definitely right :D. -- Gpmuscillo ( talk) 23:41, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
This article is full of opinionated stuff with no citations, like for instance "They are often noted as having created their own niche in black metal which has guaranteed them a spot on the list of the best bands in the history of the genre. Several classic albums such as Pure Holocaust, Battles In The North, At The Heart Of Winter and Sons Of Northern Darkness also help to solidify their status". Someone should flag the article as ... well as something. I don't know how. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.202.209.162 ( talk) 21:47, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
While it appears unfounded after a long dissapearance they were able to headline Wacken... something that a notewoirthy band could only really do after such an absence. cyclonis12
I removed all statements without citations, most of which was biased, if anyone has a problem with that, you can revert to a previous version or rewrite it. Terminxman ( talk) 13:16, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Since the unfounded statements about church burnings and stuff has been (thankfully) removed, shouldn't we remove the neutrality part from the tag? MammonI.Dumah ( talk) 12:16, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing out these issues. While I think some of these may be circumveneted by changing the wording, I think the rest of the text (about the album cover, music video) refers to their status as a meme. While I think this can be proven quite easily, I'm not sure what constitutes a good citation about memes. MammonI.Dumah ( talk) 19:41, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
Is it just me or is this section mostly ridiculous? Also, I don't see the notability. If anything it's only worth a short mention that the band writes a lot in their lyrics about a fictional ice kingdom called Blashyrkh. Not a whole section, though. Navnløs ( talk) 16:26, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Immortal (band)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Allmusic":
Motörhead wasn't punk rock ... but they were the first metal band to harness that energy and, in the process, they created speed metal and thrash metal.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 17:03, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
All three genres in the infobox are sourced. If other editors believe that certain genres should not be included in the infobox, bring it up here and discuss it. Do not just start warring over the genres again. This is unproductive and will simply be reverted to the current, sourced state. MrMoustacheMM ( talk) 21:24, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
[undent] I like how it looks now. I think this is a reasonable compromise; we show all three, but declare "death metal" to specifically refer to their early (demo) material, and putting it last in the list doesn't make it as prominent as the other two genres.
I also notice that the one user who caused all the disruptive editing in the first place has just been banned for sockpuppetry. MrMoustacheMM ( talk) 22:13, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
According to official site it's 1990. Some sources claim that Amputation renamed into Immortal, so Immortal founded in 1989. Others say that Amputation <> Immortal. Finally, Varg noted that even 1990 is fake and Immortal founded later ( link). I think it's not correct to consider one date as only one true, we should mention all different opinions. -- Sigwald ( talk) 14:49, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
Some kind of summary: Allmusic - 1990, musicmight - 1990 in text, old official site - 1990, this interview - 1990. I think that's enough, so i'll change foundation year back to 1990. -- Sigwald ( talk) 06:59, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
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