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OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST is not a reason for deletion of properly cited text. [1] It is very strange to me that you would delete, among other things, the most recent results of his doping history. And the deletion of for example the see also "Doping in Russia". Based solely on that basis. Please explain.
I'm also confused given that the editor who made this large deletion of properly cited text states on his page: "Following this finding of fact in the arbitration case (unrelated to me) I have stopped all administrator activity in the areas I edit — everything related to the countries of the former Soviet Union ... and to the Olympics."
This (second) deletion by the editor is clearly related to Russia - a country of the former Soviet Union - and to the Olympics as well. I understand that this is not "administrator activity," but nevertheless am especially surprised by this deletion of questionable basis, with this added bit of background.
2603:7000:2143:8500:B8EA:D7F1:9659:CA9C ( talk) 22:51, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
But that was untrue.
Igor Nikolayevich Yerokhin or Erokhin (Russian: Игорь Николаевич Ерохин, September 4, 1985, in Saransk) is a Russian former race walker. He has been banned for life for doping, and all of his results from February 25, 2011, on have been disqualified [1] He was first handed a two-year period of ineligibility from September 9, 2008, to September 8, 2010, but ultimately was given a lifetime ban on August 28, 2013, for additional violations of anti-doping rules.[1] He was stripped of his results as a participant of the 2012 Summer Olympics in London and 5th place finish in the 50 kilometres walk.[2][3] In 2011, though he was stripped of this result after he was found to have violated anti-doping rules, he placed second at the European Race Walking Cup.[1]
for what it's worth, my view is that in the latest edit by user 2603:7000:2143:8500:b8ea:d7f1:9659:ca9c the lede as of 16 Sept 2022 did place an unnecessarily high prominence on the fact that the athlete had been banned for doping, almost to the exclusion of everything else about him. the lede at that point definitely needed to be edited to place a better balance on his achievements as an athlete and then his doping ban. the lede should start with what he did as an athlete, what it is about this person that made him notable in the first place. if the only thing you have to say about him is that he was banned for doping then he probably is not sufficiently notable to have a page in Wikipedia.
he was 5th in the Russian Junior Championship 10km walk in June 2004, he won the European Junior (U23) Championships 20km walk in 2005, he was 2nd in the Russian Winter Championship 10km Walk in 2006 and 2007, and 3rd in the European Racewalking Cup event at Leamington in 2007. after winning the Russian 50km Championship at Saransk in June 2008 he was selected for the 2008 Olympics but DNS. these are all significant achievements that could go into his career summary and be mentioned in the lede. then, having said what made him notable, and why he is in Wikipedia, you do obviously need to give that he was banned for doping and that results after a certain date have been anulled.
and please do try to remember that not everyone here has English as their first language. Cottonshirt τ 08:28, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
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OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST is not a reason for deletion of properly cited text. [1] It is very strange to me that you would delete, among other things, the most recent results of his doping history. And the deletion of for example the see also "Doping in Russia". Based solely on that basis. Please explain.
I'm also confused given that the editor who made this large deletion of properly cited text states on his page: "Following this finding of fact in the arbitration case (unrelated to me) I have stopped all administrator activity in the areas I edit — everything related to the countries of the former Soviet Union ... and to the Olympics."
This (second) deletion by the editor is clearly related to Russia - a country of the former Soviet Union - and to the Olympics as well. I understand that this is not "administrator activity," but nevertheless am especially surprised by this deletion of questionable basis, with this added bit of background.
2603:7000:2143:8500:B8EA:D7F1:9659:CA9C ( talk) 22:51, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
But that was untrue.
Igor Nikolayevich Yerokhin or Erokhin (Russian: Игорь Николаевич Ерохин, September 4, 1985, in Saransk) is a Russian former race walker. He has been banned for life for doping, and all of his results from February 25, 2011, on have been disqualified [1] He was first handed a two-year period of ineligibility from September 9, 2008, to September 8, 2010, but ultimately was given a lifetime ban on August 28, 2013, for additional violations of anti-doping rules.[1] He was stripped of his results as a participant of the 2012 Summer Olympics in London and 5th place finish in the 50 kilometres walk.[2][3] In 2011, though he was stripped of this result after he was found to have violated anti-doping rules, he placed second at the European Race Walking Cup.[1]
for what it's worth, my view is that in the latest edit by user 2603:7000:2143:8500:b8ea:d7f1:9659:ca9c the lede as of 16 Sept 2022 did place an unnecessarily high prominence on the fact that the athlete had been banned for doping, almost to the exclusion of everything else about him. the lede at that point definitely needed to be edited to place a better balance on his achievements as an athlete and then his doping ban. the lede should start with what he did as an athlete, what it is about this person that made him notable in the first place. if the only thing you have to say about him is that he was banned for doping then he probably is not sufficiently notable to have a page in Wikipedia.
he was 5th in the Russian Junior Championship 10km walk in June 2004, he won the European Junior (U23) Championships 20km walk in 2005, he was 2nd in the Russian Winter Championship 10km Walk in 2006 and 2007, and 3rd in the European Racewalking Cup event at Leamington in 2007. after winning the Russian 50km Championship at Saransk in June 2008 he was selected for the 2008 Olympics but DNS. these are all significant achievements that could go into his career summary and be mentioned in the lede. then, having said what made him notable, and why he is in Wikipedia, you do obviously need to give that he was banned for doping and that results after a certain date have been anulled.
and please do try to remember that not everyone here has English as their first language. Cottonshirt τ 08:28, 20 September 2022 (UTC)