This article is within the scope of WikiProject Songs, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
songs on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SongsWikipedia:WikiProject SongsTemplate:WikiProject Songssong articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Billie Eilish, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Billie Eilish on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Billie EilishWikipedia:WikiProject Billie EilishTemplate:WikiProject Billie EilishBillie Eilish articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Women in Music, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Women in music on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Women in MusicWikipedia:WikiProject Women in MusicTemplate:WikiProject Women in MusicWomen in music articles
This article was
copy edited by
Tenryuu, a member of the Guild of Copy Editors, on 26 June 2020.Guild of Copy EditorsWikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy EditorsTemplate:WikiProject Guild of Copy EditorsGuild of Copy Editors articles
The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future:
"It was released by Darkroom and
Interscope Records as the fifth
single from Eilish's debut studio
EP, Don't Smile at Me (2017)." → "It was released through Darkroom and
Interscope Records on July 21, 2017 as the fifth
single from the EP." Also put this sentence after the songwriter/producer one.
Not done, only half of this. Make sure to put it after the mention of Eilish and Finneas as songwriters
"Musically an
neo soul,
pop,
R&B track with a
jazz-influenced instrumentation, the song was heavily inspired by Eilish being depressed." → "Musically, the song is
neo soul,
pop, and
R&B track with a
jazz-influenced melody, that was heavily inspired by Eilish being depressed." with targets; per source
"peaked at number 96" → "reached number 96"
Background and release
"was thought up after Eilish felt seriously depressed." → "was conceived when Eilish was suffering from depression."
"The song is about someone not wanting to be themselves." Shouldn't this sentence be in the Composition and lyrical interpretation section?
"Eilish told
Genius in a statement that" → "In an interview with
Genius, Eilish stated"
"She compares the song with "
Copycat", which is about a girl who continues doing everything Eilish is doing." → "She compared the song to her 2017 single "
Copycat"."
The variety sources says that many critics cited Del Rey and Winehouse as influences and doesn't mention the production so re-word that sentence to "Many critics noted influences from
Lana Del Rey and
Amy Winehouse in the song."
"with piano and Eilish begins" → "with a piano, before Eilish begins" Also start a new paragraph starting with this sentence
Atwood source doesn't seem to back up how Eilish sings about not wanting herself. If I am missing something could you quote it?
"On July 15, 2020, Australian masked singer Sheldon Riley, covered "Idontwannabeyouanymore" for his audition for America's Got Talent." → "In his audition for America's Got Talent on July 15, 2020, Australian masked singer Sheldon Riley covered the track."
"Gil Kaufman writing for Billboard" → "Gil Kaufman of Billboard"
Track listing
The Elijah Hill Remix wasn't released by Eilish nor her record label, it seems like it is just a remix released by the remixer online, especially since it was released on soundcloud. This section should be removed because of that. The remix needs an actual track listing from digital download or streaming services like Apple Music, Tidal, Deezer, Spotify, etc, not YouTube or Soundcloud. Since the remix is being removed, it makes having this section redundant with just 1 listing.
Credits and personnel
Change to simply Personnel since there is no management or recording locations
Remove targets on Billie Eilish, Finneas O'Connell, and Rob Kinelski per
WP:OVERLINK
use {{
spaced ndash}} to ensure the correct spacing between credits
Charts
Use {{
col-start}} to put the weekly and year-end charts on different sides of the page
The following discussion is an archived discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Comment Thank you. What exactly do you mean by the nominated page fails Straight Quotes? The quote in the "Don't" is straight. I also removed stylizations and added the disclaimer in the first sentence last night :) Thanks!
Doggy54321 (
talk)
13:52, 3 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose, from
WP:AT: "Although titles for articles are subject to consensus, do not invent names or use extremely uncommon names as a means of compromising between opposing points of view. Wikipedia describes current usage but cannot prescribe a particular usage or invent new names." That said, can you provide sources using the proposed name?
(CC)Tbhotch™23:28, 7 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose. This isn't a stylization; it is literally the name of the song. Reliable sources used in the article confirm that. As Tbhotch points out, we don't invent names.
-- Calidum02:20, 12 October 2020 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Songs, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
songs on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SongsWikipedia:WikiProject SongsTemplate:WikiProject Songssong articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Billie Eilish, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Billie Eilish on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Billie EilishWikipedia:WikiProject Billie EilishTemplate:WikiProject Billie EilishBillie Eilish articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Women in Music, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Women in music on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Women in MusicWikipedia:WikiProject Women in MusicTemplate:WikiProject Women in MusicWomen in music articles
This article was
copy edited by
Tenryuu, a member of the Guild of Copy Editors, on 26 June 2020.Guild of Copy EditorsWikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy EditorsTemplate:WikiProject Guild of Copy EditorsGuild of Copy Editors articles
The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future:
"It was released by Darkroom and
Interscope Records as the fifth
single from Eilish's debut studio
EP, Don't Smile at Me (2017)." → "It was released through Darkroom and
Interscope Records on July 21, 2017 as the fifth
single from the EP." Also put this sentence after the songwriter/producer one.
Not done, only half of this. Make sure to put it after the mention of Eilish and Finneas as songwriters
"Musically an
neo soul,
pop,
R&B track with a
jazz-influenced instrumentation, the song was heavily inspired by Eilish being depressed." → "Musically, the song is
neo soul,
pop, and
R&B track with a
jazz-influenced melody, that was heavily inspired by Eilish being depressed." with targets; per source
"peaked at number 96" → "reached number 96"
Background and release
"was thought up after Eilish felt seriously depressed." → "was conceived when Eilish was suffering from depression."
"The song is about someone not wanting to be themselves." Shouldn't this sentence be in the Composition and lyrical interpretation section?
"Eilish told
Genius in a statement that" → "In an interview with
Genius, Eilish stated"
"She compares the song with "
Copycat", which is about a girl who continues doing everything Eilish is doing." → "She compared the song to her 2017 single "
Copycat"."
The variety sources says that many critics cited Del Rey and Winehouse as influences and doesn't mention the production so re-word that sentence to "Many critics noted influences from
Lana Del Rey and
Amy Winehouse in the song."
"with piano and Eilish begins" → "with a piano, before Eilish begins" Also start a new paragraph starting with this sentence
Atwood source doesn't seem to back up how Eilish sings about not wanting herself. If I am missing something could you quote it?
"On July 15, 2020, Australian masked singer Sheldon Riley, covered "Idontwannabeyouanymore" for his audition for America's Got Talent." → "In his audition for America's Got Talent on July 15, 2020, Australian masked singer Sheldon Riley covered the track."
"Gil Kaufman writing for Billboard" → "Gil Kaufman of Billboard"
Track listing
The Elijah Hill Remix wasn't released by Eilish nor her record label, it seems like it is just a remix released by the remixer online, especially since it was released on soundcloud. This section should be removed because of that. The remix needs an actual track listing from digital download or streaming services like Apple Music, Tidal, Deezer, Spotify, etc, not YouTube or Soundcloud. Since the remix is being removed, it makes having this section redundant with just 1 listing.
Credits and personnel
Change to simply Personnel since there is no management or recording locations
Remove targets on Billie Eilish, Finneas O'Connell, and Rob Kinelski per
WP:OVERLINK
use {{
spaced ndash}} to ensure the correct spacing between credits
Charts
Use {{
col-start}} to put the weekly and year-end charts on different sides of the page
The following discussion is an archived discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Comment Thank you. What exactly do you mean by the nominated page fails Straight Quotes? The quote in the "Don't" is straight. I also removed stylizations and added the disclaimer in the first sentence last night :) Thanks!
Doggy54321 (
talk)
13:52, 3 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose, from
WP:AT: "Although titles for articles are subject to consensus, do not invent names or use extremely uncommon names as a means of compromising between opposing points of view. Wikipedia describes current usage but cannot prescribe a particular usage or invent new names." That said, can you provide sources using the proposed name?
(CC)Tbhotch™23:28, 7 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose. This isn't a stylization; it is literally the name of the song. Reliable sources used in the article confirm that. As Tbhotch points out, we don't invent names.
-- Calidum02:20, 12 October 2020 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.