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Don't know about the others but BCN is not a focus city for them at all. They only fly to Madrid and Heathrow form BCN and if two flights make it a focus city... I've removed it. -- 62.57.161.79 ( talk) 22:01, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
I have removed:
This kind of thing is relatively common and does not need to be reported here I feel. Anyone disagree just leave me a message! -- GoAround 19:57, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
I think it is important to state or determine the cause of the fire. If it is the result of passenger action I agree. If it is the result of aircraft maintenance, failures in protocol etc that potentially affect the lives of passsngers, it should remain. I have already lived luckily through 1 aircraft fire. I was lucky. Many are not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.244.251.194 ( talk) 12:13, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
The history section has been spun-out into "History of Iberia Airlines" to help with readability and concentrate the main article onto the current aspects of the company. This "history" page also includes significant incidents and accidents. Please help out by expanding the article and feel free to raise any recommendations, omissions or objections → friedfish 11:52, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
I think you to show a photo of an Iberia B-747, because this aircraft is very interesting, and I think that if Iberia has 4 of these, you should show them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.60.133.117 ( talk • contribs)
That list currently included in the article looks to be a little far-fetched. I'm pretty sure none of those routes have been announced or confirmed; it's all speculation, or possibly a wishlist. I think it should go! Jasepl ( talk) 09:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
So do I. Deus Caritas Est ( talk) 23:48, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi! I need to ask why doesn't this article has a former fleet section like many other airline articles do?
Because, looking through Ebay for Iberia collectibles for my own collection, I found this: [1] and tried to look up here to see if Iberia actually ever flew helicopters, and so that's how I came to find out there is no former fleet section here. And anyways I know that new rules here specify no questions about the subject itself, only about the article on wikipedia pages but, if anybody who knows the history of Iberia here can help, did Iberia ever actually have helicopters?
Thanks and God bless you!
Sincerely yours, Dildo Hispano hable 05:08, 23 November, 2009 (UTC)
Why does the article say that Iberia has the worst service and that Spanish passport holders have preference on queues? It is an opinion and it has to be proved and no airlines quality issues ranking shows what the page says.
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I believe that the 'Industry Ratings' section needs to be carefully amended, as it is beneath the standards of encyclopedic writing. It's a bunch of opinions that are either unsourced, or that brazenly distort the facts to reflect bias against Iberia. I welcome other people's opinions. Here's what I disagree with:
Suffering from more customer complaints than any other full-service carrier in Europe..." Can you provide proof of this? What is your source? Surely not what you go on to mention below.
Iberia has developed a negative overall brand image from the general public and a reputation for poor customer service. You cannot make such a claim, period. You just don't have proper sources and this is biased opinion.
In 2011, reflecting very low customer satisfaction ratings, Iberia was ranked #10 in a Business Insider poll for The 10 Worst Airlines in the World.[16]" This very survey states that Iberia's overall rating, according to Zagat, falls between the 10-15 mark described as 'fair to good'. You do not ONCE mention Iberia's 'industry rating' as you call it with such adjectives, instead using words like 'poor' which are in the lowest descriptor (and which Iberia in not in). It is, additionally, utter rubish to depict Iberia as the world's 10th worst airline.
Also, passengers rated Iberia a mere 3.3 out of 10 on Skytrax's website, depicting its services as poor.[17] " I see a 4/10 overall score under passengers' comments, I don't know here you got the 3.3 number from. But the personal rating of 696 English speaking customers in a UK website hardly counts to depict an major airline's services as poor, given that millions have flown Iberia. I would accept something like 'passengers on the UK airline review site Skytrax' or something that quantifies your statement better.
It is also not a Skytrax Quality Approved airline " Again very biased writing, especially since Skytrax has given Iberia a 3-star ranking, awarded to 'airlines delivering a fair Quality performance, but with greater levels of inconsistency'. So again you would need to use words as 'fair' and not 'poor' quality to make this part of the article reflect reputable sources. Your descriptions rather match 2 or 1 star rated airlines, as a 3 star airline is not a bad rating at all, more middle of the line. I do not see a 3 star rating spun as a badge of shame for other other 3-star airlines such as Air Canada, Icelandair, American Airlines, etc which to me suggests a personal unbiased attack on Iberia.
especially given that between 2007 and 2012, Skytrax's rating for Iberia's cabin crews has fluctuated between two and three stars, well below the ratings of other European airlines' cabin crews. What's your source? What's the rating for 'other' European airlines cabin crew? Again biased unsourced opinions.
Please amend this section, or I will reword it. Iberia actually holds a solid reputation with many people, as one of the world's oldest operating airlines and the market leader between Latin America and Europe. I have had excellent experiences w them always, including a snow-in at JFK where Iberia set us up in a hotel for the night and the next morning I saw the same American Airlines passengers who were were stranded overnight and slept at the airport. Of course this doesn't mean anything so I wouldn't put this as general facts in Wikpiedia. I ask you to do the same and remove opinions that are baseless, or based on altered facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emanuel Kingsley ( talk • contribs) 09:44, 15 December 2012
I removed the Bibliography section as it doesnt relate to any of the references used, this removal has been challenged. Perhaps User:Cuentaprueba10 why we should make an exception on this one article. They may have been more appropriate under further reading but not being in English it doesnt help the reader. MilborneOne ( talk) 20:03, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
The article needs to be restructured but retaining ALL the current pictures. -- Cuentaprueba10 ( talk) 15:07, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
Cuentaprueba10 you probably need to say what and why you think something needs changed to be taken with any seriousness. Andrewgprout ( talk) 19:21, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
YSSYguy doesn't respect the previous editions of the article, doesn't put his proposals on the talk. Destroys the previous contributions, such as quotes, images and the fleet table in the brand colors.-- 87.218.80.49 ( talk) 16:27, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
The colours used in the fleet table made the header very difficult to read, they were in contravention of WP:ACCESS and it is certainly not necessary for a fleet table to have someone's interpretation of the airline's colours - it serves no purpose other than decoration. IP 87.218.80.49 complained in an earlier edit summary about the large number of images making the article look "destructured", so I removed some (there were previously two images of B744s for example, several of DC-10s, A340s etc.) and moved some others (left to right and arranged somewhat chronologically), now s/he seems to be unhappy that I removed images. Apparently my edits have been disruptive; I fixed punctuation and grammar, updated text, removed overlinking, properly formatted refs, moved images so the article conformed with MOS:IMAGE etc., all explained within the constraints of available space in edit summaries; and 87.218.80.49 undid all of it multiple times without explanation. YSSYguy ( talk) 17:03, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
There are a mistake, I tink
It is impossible that it was in April of 39 because at the same time the Spanish civil war had just ended (just in April of 39) (Iberia evidently did not operated flights between 36-39), the national side being victor, King Alfonso XIII of Spain appears and this is impossible at 1939, because the monarchical figure disappears from 39 to return in 78 with the Spanish constitution of 1978 and his reign ends in 1931, and junkers g24 was no longer used in the 1940s. Is a mistake from the source. The correct date is 1929.-- 87.218.80.49 ( talk) 04:15, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
Are you really going to refuse to put the correct information in the article? What is the problem? I can't believe that I show the correct date, I give a reference of a reliable source and you refuse to correct the wrong information in the article. What's wrong with you? -- 87.218.80.49 ( talk) 15:41, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
I've added information regarding the routes operated by the airline at the end of the 1930s. One more comment: the ″History″ section has a link to History of Iberia (airline) but the lack of sources in this split article is just alarming.-- Jetstreamer Talk 17:45, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
"Cabo" and "Juby" is Cape Juby, one place, please insert the link. Thanks.-- 87.218.80.49 ( talk) 18:12, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
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Don't know about the others but BCN is not a focus city for them at all. They only fly to Madrid and Heathrow form BCN and if two flights make it a focus city... I've removed it. -- 62.57.161.79 ( talk) 22:01, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
I have removed:
This kind of thing is relatively common and does not need to be reported here I feel. Anyone disagree just leave me a message! -- GoAround 19:57, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
I think it is important to state or determine the cause of the fire. If it is the result of passenger action I agree. If it is the result of aircraft maintenance, failures in protocol etc that potentially affect the lives of passsngers, it should remain. I have already lived luckily through 1 aircraft fire. I was lucky. Many are not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.244.251.194 ( talk) 12:13, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
The history section has been spun-out into "History of Iberia Airlines" to help with readability and concentrate the main article onto the current aspects of the company. This "history" page also includes significant incidents and accidents. Please help out by expanding the article and feel free to raise any recommendations, omissions or objections → friedfish 11:52, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
I think you to show a photo of an Iberia B-747, because this aircraft is very interesting, and I think that if Iberia has 4 of these, you should show them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.60.133.117 ( talk • contribs)
That list currently included in the article looks to be a little far-fetched. I'm pretty sure none of those routes have been announced or confirmed; it's all speculation, or possibly a wishlist. I think it should go! Jasepl ( talk) 09:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
So do I. Deus Caritas Est ( talk) 23:48, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi! I need to ask why doesn't this article has a former fleet section like many other airline articles do?
Because, looking through Ebay for Iberia collectibles for my own collection, I found this: [1] and tried to look up here to see if Iberia actually ever flew helicopters, and so that's how I came to find out there is no former fleet section here. And anyways I know that new rules here specify no questions about the subject itself, only about the article on wikipedia pages but, if anybody who knows the history of Iberia here can help, did Iberia ever actually have helicopters?
Thanks and God bless you!
Sincerely yours, Dildo Hispano hable 05:08, 23 November, 2009 (UTC)
Why does the article say that Iberia has the worst service and that Spanish passport holders have preference on queues? It is an opinion and it has to be proved and no airlines quality issues ranking shows what the page says.
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I believe that the 'Industry Ratings' section needs to be carefully amended, as it is beneath the standards of encyclopedic writing. It's a bunch of opinions that are either unsourced, or that brazenly distort the facts to reflect bias against Iberia. I welcome other people's opinions. Here's what I disagree with:
Suffering from more customer complaints than any other full-service carrier in Europe..." Can you provide proof of this? What is your source? Surely not what you go on to mention below.
Iberia has developed a negative overall brand image from the general public and a reputation for poor customer service. You cannot make such a claim, period. You just don't have proper sources and this is biased opinion.
In 2011, reflecting very low customer satisfaction ratings, Iberia was ranked #10 in a Business Insider poll for The 10 Worst Airlines in the World.[16]" This very survey states that Iberia's overall rating, according to Zagat, falls between the 10-15 mark described as 'fair to good'. You do not ONCE mention Iberia's 'industry rating' as you call it with such adjectives, instead using words like 'poor' which are in the lowest descriptor (and which Iberia in not in). It is, additionally, utter rubish to depict Iberia as the world's 10th worst airline.
Also, passengers rated Iberia a mere 3.3 out of 10 on Skytrax's website, depicting its services as poor.[17] " I see a 4/10 overall score under passengers' comments, I don't know here you got the 3.3 number from. But the personal rating of 696 English speaking customers in a UK website hardly counts to depict an major airline's services as poor, given that millions have flown Iberia. I would accept something like 'passengers on the UK airline review site Skytrax' or something that quantifies your statement better.
It is also not a Skytrax Quality Approved airline " Again very biased writing, especially since Skytrax has given Iberia a 3-star ranking, awarded to 'airlines delivering a fair Quality performance, but with greater levels of inconsistency'. So again you would need to use words as 'fair' and not 'poor' quality to make this part of the article reflect reputable sources. Your descriptions rather match 2 or 1 star rated airlines, as a 3 star airline is not a bad rating at all, more middle of the line. I do not see a 3 star rating spun as a badge of shame for other other 3-star airlines such as Air Canada, Icelandair, American Airlines, etc which to me suggests a personal unbiased attack on Iberia.
especially given that between 2007 and 2012, Skytrax's rating for Iberia's cabin crews has fluctuated between two and three stars, well below the ratings of other European airlines' cabin crews. What's your source? What's the rating for 'other' European airlines cabin crew? Again biased unsourced opinions.
Please amend this section, or I will reword it. Iberia actually holds a solid reputation with many people, as one of the world's oldest operating airlines and the market leader between Latin America and Europe. I have had excellent experiences w them always, including a snow-in at JFK where Iberia set us up in a hotel for the night and the next morning I saw the same American Airlines passengers who were were stranded overnight and slept at the airport. Of course this doesn't mean anything so I wouldn't put this as general facts in Wikpiedia. I ask you to do the same and remove opinions that are baseless, or based on altered facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emanuel Kingsley ( talk • contribs) 09:44, 15 December 2012
I removed the Bibliography section as it doesnt relate to any of the references used, this removal has been challenged. Perhaps User:Cuentaprueba10 why we should make an exception on this one article. They may have been more appropriate under further reading but not being in English it doesnt help the reader. MilborneOne ( talk) 20:03, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
The article needs to be restructured but retaining ALL the current pictures. -- Cuentaprueba10 ( talk) 15:07, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
Cuentaprueba10 you probably need to say what and why you think something needs changed to be taken with any seriousness. Andrewgprout ( talk) 19:21, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
YSSYguy doesn't respect the previous editions of the article, doesn't put his proposals on the talk. Destroys the previous contributions, such as quotes, images and the fleet table in the brand colors.-- 87.218.80.49 ( talk) 16:27, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
The colours used in the fleet table made the header very difficult to read, they were in contravention of WP:ACCESS and it is certainly not necessary for a fleet table to have someone's interpretation of the airline's colours - it serves no purpose other than decoration. IP 87.218.80.49 complained in an earlier edit summary about the large number of images making the article look "destructured", so I removed some (there were previously two images of B744s for example, several of DC-10s, A340s etc.) and moved some others (left to right and arranged somewhat chronologically), now s/he seems to be unhappy that I removed images. Apparently my edits have been disruptive; I fixed punctuation and grammar, updated text, removed overlinking, properly formatted refs, moved images so the article conformed with MOS:IMAGE etc., all explained within the constraints of available space in edit summaries; and 87.218.80.49 undid all of it multiple times without explanation. YSSYguy ( talk) 17:03, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
There are a mistake, I tink
It is impossible that it was in April of 39 because at the same time the Spanish civil war had just ended (just in April of 39) (Iberia evidently did not operated flights between 36-39), the national side being victor, King Alfonso XIII of Spain appears and this is impossible at 1939, because the monarchical figure disappears from 39 to return in 78 with the Spanish constitution of 1978 and his reign ends in 1931, and junkers g24 was no longer used in the 1940s. Is a mistake from the source. The correct date is 1929.-- 87.218.80.49 ( talk) 04:15, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
Are you really going to refuse to put the correct information in the article? What is the problem? I can't believe that I show the correct date, I give a reference of a reliable source and you refuse to correct the wrong information in the article. What's wrong with you? -- 87.218.80.49 ( talk) 15:41, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
I've added information regarding the routes operated by the airline at the end of the 1930s. One more comment: the ″History″ section has a link to History of Iberia (airline) but the lack of sources in this split article is just alarming.-- Jetstreamer Talk 17:45, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
"Cabo" and "Juby" is Cape Juby, one place, please insert the link. Thanks.-- 87.218.80.49 ( talk) 18:12, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
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This table includes SNCASE SE.161 Languedoc 1952 1960 , however the article for the Languedoc only lists Aviaco as an operator. Darci ( talk) 21:47, 15 February 2019 (UTC)