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Recently a death date was added of 8th February 2007, but I removed this as I can't find any evidence for this anywhere on the internet. Kristmace 16:08, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
There's a persistent urban myth that there was a sign outside a Liverpool church saying "Jesus saves!" to which some joker had appended "But St. John scores on the rebound!" If - if - this was real, then the article would benefit from its being mentioned. If it can't be solidly backed up, though, I think it falls into the realms of trivia and should be left out. 81.153.111.37 ( talk) 04:10, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
This guy has a song called "Slaughterman" (1988) which includes the line "No would-be Ian St. John's are gonna bring me down". Whether this refers to ISJ's career as a footballer or his contemporary work as a pundit I don't know. It's just a little reference that sticks out like a sore thumb in the song... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.102.12.150 ( talk) 13:11, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
The goals and appearances figures in the text don't match the summary box?
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How was his surname pronounced? Was it the "sinjun" pronunciation found in other people with this name? Beorhtwulf ( talk) 10:12, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Most sources just say he died, but [1] says "Liverpool said St John died on Monday evening"- so his date of death should be 1 March 2021. Please let me know if you disagree, or sources say to the contrary. So far as I can see, all sources were written today, but didn't explicitly say he died today. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 11:14, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
The infobox says his birth name was "John St John", and this is sourced to https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/record-results?search_type=people&dl_cat=statutory&dl_rec=statutory-births&surname=St%20John&surname_so=exact&forename_so=fuzzy&from_year=1937&to_year=1939&county=LANARK&record_type=stat_births but that link doesn't actually contain any relevant information, instead being a login/registration page. The only archive.org snapshot of that URL is similarly unhelpful. John as first name doesn't appear anywhere else in this article, nor in today's obituaries, nor in the authority files of ISNI and the LoC which likely take his name from his published autobiography. So it is not clear that he was born John, and if he was, he appears to have changed his name at some point. Can anyone find a source to clear this up, e.g. any mention in his autobiography? Beorhtwulf ( talk) 16:48, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
While we're on the subject, is the canonical spelling of his surname based on his (apparent) birth registration "St John" rather than "St. John", as appears in some authority files e.g. [3]? Again I suppose we can't be sure whether whoever digitised the record at some point carried that over verbatim. It's the kind of thing no one used to concern themselves much with, but in computerised times where names are a string of digital characters, most St Johns have probably had to choose one or the other. Beorhtwulf ( talk) 17:31, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
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Recently a death date was added of 8th February 2007, but I removed this as I can't find any evidence for this anywhere on the internet. Kristmace 16:08, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
There's a persistent urban myth that there was a sign outside a Liverpool church saying "Jesus saves!" to which some joker had appended "But St. John scores on the rebound!" If - if - this was real, then the article would benefit from its being mentioned. If it can't be solidly backed up, though, I think it falls into the realms of trivia and should be left out. 81.153.111.37 ( talk) 04:10, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
This guy has a song called "Slaughterman" (1988) which includes the line "No would-be Ian St. John's are gonna bring me down". Whether this refers to ISJ's career as a footballer or his contemporary work as a pundit I don't know. It's just a little reference that sticks out like a sore thumb in the song... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.102.12.150 ( talk) 13:11, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
The goals and appearances figures in the text don't match the summary box?
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How was his surname pronounced? Was it the "sinjun" pronunciation found in other people with this name? Beorhtwulf ( talk) 10:12, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Most sources just say he died, but [1] says "Liverpool said St John died on Monday evening"- so his date of death should be 1 March 2021. Please let me know if you disagree, or sources say to the contrary. So far as I can see, all sources were written today, but didn't explicitly say he died today. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 11:14, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
The infobox says his birth name was "John St John", and this is sourced to https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/record-results?search_type=people&dl_cat=statutory&dl_rec=statutory-births&surname=St%20John&surname_so=exact&forename_so=fuzzy&from_year=1937&to_year=1939&county=LANARK&record_type=stat_births but that link doesn't actually contain any relevant information, instead being a login/registration page. The only archive.org snapshot of that URL is similarly unhelpful. John as first name doesn't appear anywhere else in this article, nor in today's obituaries, nor in the authority files of ISNI and the LoC which likely take his name from his published autobiography. So it is not clear that he was born John, and if he was, he appears to have changed his name at some point. Can anyone find a source to clear this up, e.g. any mention in his autobiography? Beorhtwulf ( talk) 16:48, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
While we're on the subject, is the canonical spelling of his surname based on his (apparent) birth registration "St John" rather than "St. John", as appears in some authority files e.g. [3]? Again I suppose we can't be sure whether whoever digitised the record at some point carried that over verbatim. It's the kind of thing no one used to concern themselves much with, but in computerised times where names are a string of digital characters, most St Johns have probably had to choose one or the other. Beorhtwulf ( talk) 17:31, 2 March 2021 (UTC)