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Initiated by BlueMoonset ( talk) 23:47, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
The original review, by a first-time reviewer, unfortunately missed important facets of some basic GA criteria. In particular, the MOS compliance and copyright criteria were not met. There are some minor prose issues as well, but that wouldn't normally be sufficient to call for a reassessment. While I wish this wasn't necessary, since the author and nominator CyrockingSmiler stopped editing on Wikipedia shortly after the article was listed and won't be around to work on the article now, given the issues and substantial work involved, I don't think the article is close enough to a Good Article to avoid a reassessment.
Basically, the structure of the article is badly off kilter, the prose isn't quite up to standard, not all sources are reliable, there's at least one copyright issue, and specific details appear to be inferred and therefore questionable or clearly wrong. The lead/introduction should be a summary of the whole article, but instead deals with the Cyrus version of the song. The Cyrus version is given short shrift compared to the Cher version—perhaps inevitable given how little attention the original release was given—which makes the article feel unbalanced. To be more specific:
The lead serves as an introduction to the article and a summary of its most important aspects.The article doesn't do that at all. Instead, the intro here talks in some detail about the original, Miley Cyrus version of the song: charting, lyrics, construction, and so on. The Cyrus version does not appear in the body, except for an extremely brief paragraph that barely touches on its critical reception, and that's from an unreliable source (see below). The Cher version is virtually ignored in the lead. Hence, the lead needs to be totally rewritten.
Based on the above, I think it's clear that this article will need to be delisted unless quite a bit of work is done to it. I think allowing a week for work to begin is reasonable (much like a regular nomination being on hold for a week to allow noted issues to be worked on). — BlueMoonset ( talk) 23:47, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
I am really not interested in making any kind of contribution any more - I've stated before, the article seems biased and looks as a written comparison of both version, of course more inclined towards cirus. For example the sentence 'According to Jackie Willis of Entertainment Tonight, Cher showed Cyrus "the highest form of flattery" by covering her song, after going back on disparaging comments regarding Cyrus' controversial 2013 MTV Video Music Awards performance.[5]" is put in the intro part and seems as though it is 'legit', while the fact is that Cher had no idea who recorded the song first and has said so in an interview... The article should be written more profesionally and so that you can not see the inclanation of the editor towards any of the versions.— Uncleangelo ( talk) 16:47, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
There have been no edits to the article and no disagreement here: the article does not meet Good Article standards. The reassessment is complete, and the decision is to delist is effective immediately. I have just now removed the problematic material listed above from the article. — BlueMoonset ( talk) 04:29, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
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Initiated by BlueMoonset ( talk) 23:47, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
The original review, by a first-time reviewer, unfortunately missed important facets of some basic GA criteria. In particular, the MOS compliance and copyright criteria were not met. There are some minor prose issues as well, but that wouldn't normally be sufficient to call for a reassessment. While I wish this wasn't necessary, since the author and nominator CyrockingSmiler stopped editing on Wikipedia shortly after the article was listed and won't be around to work on the article now, given the issues and substantial work involved, I don't think the article is close enough to a Good Article to avoid a reassessment.
Basically, the structure of the article is badly off kilter, the prose isn't quite up to standard, not all sources are reliable, there's at least one copyright issue, and specific details appear to be inferred and therefore questionable or clearly wrong. The lead/introduction should be a summary of the whole article, but instead deals with the Cyrus version of the song. The Cyrus version is given short shrift compared to the Cher version—perhaps inevitable given how little attention the original release was given—which makes the article feel unbalanced. To be more specific:
The lead serves as an introduction to the article and a summary of its most important aspects.The article doesn't do that at all. Instead, the intro here talks in some detail about the original, Miley Cyrus version of the song: charting, lyrics, construction, and so on. The Cyrus version does not appear in the body, except for an extremely brief paragraph that barely touches on its critical reception, and that's from an unreliable source (see below). The Cher version is virtually ignored in the lead. Hence, the lead needs to be totally rewritten.
Based on the above, I think it's clear that this article will need to be delisted unless quite a bit of work is done to it. I think allowing a week for work to begin is reasonable (much like a regular nomination being on hold for a week to allow noted issues to be worked on). — BlueMoonset ( talk) 23:47, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
I am really not interested in making any kind of contribution any more - I've stated before, the article seems biased and looks as a written comparison of both version, of course more inclined towards cirus. For example the sentence 'According to Jackie Willis of Entertainment Tonight, Cher showed Cyrus "the highest form of flattery" by covering her song, after going back on disparaging comments regarding Cyrus' controversial 2013 MTV Video Music Awards performance.[5]" is put in the intro part and seems as though it is 'legit', while the fact is that Cher had no idea who recorded the song first and has said so in an interview... The article should be written more profesionally and so that you can not see the inclanation of the editor towards any of the versions.— Uncleangelo ( talk) 16:47, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
There have been no edits to the article and no disagreement here: the article does not meet Good Article standards. The reassessment is complete, and the decision is to delist is effective immediately. I have just now removed the problematic material listed above from the article. — BlueMoonset ( talk) 04:29, 28 September 2014 (UTC)